Hmm, i am using the Safari public beta and i have noticed the non
refreshing behaviour, trouble is, if i leave the link i'm hovering
over, the menu of links that drop down when you hover over the links
will disappear. I know this should be workable, but i can't work this
out so any tips wo
Hi Krister,
Can't say I've had much trouble with Groups mode and dynamic HTML. I
am using Safari 4 public beta. If you're running Safari 3, it might be
worth checking out Safari 4. Occasionally, content doesn't refresh
immediately, but moving around for a second or cycling VO off and on
al
Justin,
I even mention outSpoken in my message you are replying too, so I have
no clue what you're getting at. :) *Most* are coming from Windows,
because for 5 years or so, there was no screen reader for OS X. I
think that's a very fair statement. :)
Josh de Lioncourt
…my other mail
Hi Josh, i totally agree with what you say, and it's mostly because of
that that i like groups mode more than dom. I must ask a question
however, have you had the problem with dynamic html that i have and
how do you work around it? Is it the link chooser or what's the best
bet?
/Krister
Have you forgotten about outspoken?
On Jun 6, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>
> I don't think this is necessarily true. Most VoiceOver Mac users
> these days came from Windows, because for several years there was no
> screen reader for Mac OS X.
>
> I used Mac with outSpoken in th
Josh, very well stated and I do find groups mode to be my preference,
but I can see where some would like the dom mode. I want an experience
as close to what my sighted counterparts get, so I can navigate more
easily to what they are wanting to show me. I found groups mode to
allow this mor
I don't think this is necessarily true. Most VoiceOver Mac users these
days came from Windows, because for several years there was no screen
reader for Mac OS X.
I used Mac with outSpoken in the 90's, but had been a Windows user for
a decade when I made the leap to OS X. I dislike DOM mode
I think most people who come from Windows screen readers, including
myself, use DOM navigation because it's basically the same one that
you would use with JFW or Window Eyes. I do like Group navigation,
except sometimes it just didn't work for me on certain websites so I
definitely switche
The question may now depend on what your doing and personal
preference. Personally I use dom mode simply because I never got in to
using group mode at all.
Perhaps for some pages group mode is more appropriate however with
some of the dhtml at least in current version of vo, dom may provide
5 jun 2009 kl. 10.58 skrev Esther:
> For Safari users Control-n lets you
> read the next post in the thread and Control-p gives you the previous
> post.
Thanks for the tips on the mail archive and the thread there. It was
interesting reading, however for some strange reason, the shortcut
ke
Kara, Justin, Michael, and Others,
If you want to read through one of the discussions of group mode
versus DOM mode navigation from a year ago, try this thread in the old
list archives. I'll start you at the beginning of the thread, which
is actually a question by Will about what new thing
I am now more of a DOM mode user, but not because I prefer it, but
rather because I tolerate it. Groups mode does not work well with the
new onslaught of IM clients with dynamic html message viewers like
adium, and since I use those sorts of programs a lot, it is not worth
the trouble of
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