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2025-05-11 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Absolutely, there’s always new developments, new displays. And I’d love to see a BT Braille or whatever they call it. There’s no urgency for now. Just a string of repair bills for my Focus 5. Gotta be QC issues, whatever they say. -- The following information is important for all members of th

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2025-05-11 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
, 2025 at 18:49 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille displays (was Hi, Unless you are desperate for a new braille display, I would suggest waiting until until after the summer conventions. I have heard a couple rumors of new displays being worked on by a couple of manufacturers

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2025-05-11 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hi, Unless you are desperate for a new braille display, I would suggest waiting until until after the summer conventions. I have heard a couple rumors of new displays being worked on by a couple of manufacturers. I certainly hope so, since I would love to have the features of a Braille and Spea

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2025-05-11 Thread Maurice A. mines
Hello everyone just for comparison in order to write this message, and read what I'm writing I use a braille since six that is going to be a Bluetooth to my MacBook Pro. My machine is a mid 2022 M2 machine. Running the most recent version of macOS sequoia. The Bluetooth pairing experience as far

Re: Braille displays (was Re: I am done for now with the Mac.)

2025-05-11 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
OK, so I've just found the updated v1.4 VarioUltra 40 user manual on the VisioBraille site and am giving it a read now. They have UEB support as well as back-translation. So I will read through it and think again. I don't think it makes sense to get one of these, but I did want to acknowledge th

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2025-05-11 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Yes, the Vario dealer here in the UK is Computer Room Services, and they're charging £4.9k for the VarioUltra. I know people loved these displays, and honestly I'm glad for them that they're still being manufactured. But, really, unless VisioBraille has a future in new and updated product lines

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2025-05-11 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Jason, Just fyi, that is the company I mentioned in my message. It’s a group of former Baum employees. But at least as of a few years ago, their visibility was poor, and it was hard to get any info on future developments of the product. Cheers, Donna > On May 11, 2025, at 11:50 AM, 'Jason J.

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2022-03-16 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
what the hardware problem is, and it may be fixable. From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries Date: Wednesday, 16March, 2022 at 17:57 To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: Braille Displays I use the focus 5th Generation for PC tablet, Mac OS, I Phone and Apple Watch. > On 7 Mar 2

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2022-03-16 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I use the focus 5th Generation for PC tablet, Mac OS, I Phone and Apple Watch. > On 7 Mar 2022, at 13:16, Julie Rattray wrote: > > Hi, > > I use the aphmantis Q40 which I really like > >> On 5 Mar 2022, at 00:03, Holly Jensen wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I am wondering what kind of braille di

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2022-03-07 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi, I use the aphmantis Q40 which I really like > On 5 Mar 2022, at 00:03, Holly Jensen wrote: > > Hello, > > I am wondering what kind of braille display everyone uses. I am hoping to > find one that works well for both the Mac and the Apple watch, if that is > even possible. Many thanks. >

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2022-03-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I use the Handytech BasicBraille which is one of the best displays I’ve ever used. The germans can really do their job! /A > 5 mars 2022 kl. 01:03 skrev Holly Jensen : > > Hello, > > I am wondering what kind of braille display everyone uses. I am hoping to > find one that works well for b

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2018-06-19 Thread William Windels
hello all I am thinking also for buying a active star 40 but, as written below, the htcom isn’t still available for mac. 1. You can copy and paste from the finder into the external drive (memorycard of the active star). and reverse but other formats then .txt and .rtf should be converted befor

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2018-06-11 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
--Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Eric Oyen Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays "microsoft only transfer tool"? On a mac?? ok, big old work in both directions. Also, does that de

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2018-05-05 Thread Eric Oyen
"microsoft only transfer tool"? On a mac?? ok, big old work in both directions. Also, does that device support the use of external USB flash devices or SD Cards? I know that this will sound like the old rant, but *this* is the best reason that I am a proponent of Open Source Software. -eric ,

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2018-05-05 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
I haven't used a HandyTech display, but my understanding is that they can transfer files to a host computer by emulating a keyboard and writing the file into whatever text editor or word processor you're using. This should work well on the Mac. I don't know how transfers in the other direction

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2018-05-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Stacey, It’s an old Braille display and note-taker made by the German company Handitech. Cheers, Anne > On 1 May 2018, at 19:14, Stacey Robinson wrote: > > Ann, > What is a Brailleeno? > > Blessings, > > Stacey Robinson > > stacey...@bellsouth.net

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2018-05-01 Thread Stacey Robinson
Ann, What is a Brailleeno? Blessings, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net > On May 1, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > I still have a Braillino that works fine with bluetooth on my Mac. I couldn’t > get it to connect to my iPhone, however, so I bought a Focus 14 which

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2018-05-01 Thread Anne Robertson
I still have a Braillino that works fine with bluetooth on my Mac. I couldn’t get it to connect to my iPhone, however, so I bought a Focus 14 which is small and light and much more appropriate for an iPhone. When I go to teach a new Mac user, I take my Focus 14 as it can just be connected to any

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2018-05-01 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! One thing i dislike with the vU is that you can not as someone stated connect it directly to the mac and transfer files but its not a dealbreaker though. /A > 29 apr. 2018 kl. 19:39 skrev Mary Otten : > > I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be > a full-

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2018-05-01 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I think Handytech has one but i can’t for the life of me remember if it was called Actilino or something else. I long ago before i was an apple user had an Handitech Braillino which imho was the greatest portable thing out there even though it was a bit klunky in its shape. It had a very ver

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2018-04-30 Thread David Tanner
No ST cards will be around for a long time. If you haven’t heard there is now a 1 TB SSD card think that’ll save a little few documents or so question David Tanner >From my iPhone 8 > On Apr 30, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Yes, I have one of those. I still think a USB drive is

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2018-04-30 Thread Donna Goodin
Yes, I have one of those. I still think a USB drive is the preferred mechanism for file transfer. Who knows, maybe it’s just a matter of personal preference. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2018, at 12:04 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > You can get adaptors t

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2018-04-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
You can get adaptors that take several SD card sizes at one end, and attach to your computer through a standard USB connector at the other end. Very handy device to have. Donna Goodin writes: > I hope you're right. But I'd definitely feel better having USB as an option. > Cheers, > Donna > > On A

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2018-04-30 Thread lenron brown
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 5:12 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Braille Displays >> >> Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for >> me. >&

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2018-04-30 Thread E.T.
peeds -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 5:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna On Ap

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2018-04-30 Thread David Tanner
our retirement. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:45 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Braille Displays

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2018-04-30 Thread David Tanner
Do you still have warranty coverage since the problems with bomb I understand that the problems are only in the United States and not in Europe so I am wondering if you were still covered for the warranty on your unit question David Tanner >From my iPhone 8 > On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:01 AM, Ander

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2018-04-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi ET! I have the VarioUltra 20. Its as Donna says the best display in regards to form factor and the cells and such. I haven’t seen the Braille Edge but to me it sounds like you should go for the VarioUltra. Another display to concider is the Handytech Basic braille. Its only a braille display b

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2018-04-30 Thread Donna Goodin
onaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 5:12 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. > Cheers, > Donna >> O

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2018-04-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 12:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Well, as a not assistive technology specialist, excuse me for posting. I will be on subscribing because of people like you. Sent from

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2018-04-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays That's very dated tech. I would be worried that one of these days SD cards are going to disappear altogether. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > I move files from my Mac to the SD card.

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2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 5:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:38 AM, alia robinson

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2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 4:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Yep. Their last truly innovative product was the PacMate. That's been a brick for a long time now, and they haven't done anything sinc

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2018-04-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
isionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Jason, If I can take the 5th for a spin I may try and test this for myself. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/28/2018 4:32 PM, &#

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2018-04-29 Thread Maria Reyes
prior to your retirement. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:45 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > Well, as a not assistiv

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2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
-Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > David, please calm down. I said it was all from memory. So just get off your

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Rebecca Sabo wrote: > Hi all > Is their a cheaper braille display to buy anywhere ? The least expensive options are probably the Orbit Braille Reader from Orbit Research, and the BrailleMe (noted earlier in this discussion). They both use very new technologies unlike the piezoelectric mechanis

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2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > David, please calm down. I said it was all from memory. So just get off your > high hor

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2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays David, please calm down. I said it was all from memory. So just get off your high horse. For once. I did look up the current info

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2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
;t find any Focus that has note > taking, or nearly as well made Braille cells. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 2:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: R

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2018-04-29 Thread David Tanner
2:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think somethings I have seen written elsewher

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2018-04-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Becky, Write me at kriegle...@gmail.com and I may be able to help you with your question. Les Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Sabo Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 6:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Hi all Is their a cheaper braille display to

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2018-04-29 Thread Rebecca Sabo
Hi all Is their a cheaper braille display to buy anywhere ? Becky > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:27 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > This is actually a concern I have. It goes back to the time when Freedom > Scientific came to life and took over what, 3 companies, including Blazie? > But we do not ha

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2018-04-29 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I used my husband’s focus 80 a few years ago. It was actually kind of clunky. My fav is 40 cells, although I got used to using 32 when I used my braille sense plus for book reading. Now I just have my brailliant bi 40. the BSP is still here, but the charger is broken so I can’t get it charge

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2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
the scrolling works great with iphone, and mac. On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think some

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2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think somethings I have seen written elsewhere, that it did not work with iPhones or Macs. Only with a spec

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
I wish those devices had internal memory, but even so, I may check one out if I get to CSUN next year. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 2:20 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Donna Goodin wrote: >> You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never >>

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2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Donna Goodin wrote: > You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never > gotten used to using it. It always seems like it either scrolls too fast, > or I end up sitting there waiting for it to scroll. The advantage of the Active Tactile Control in some HandyTech disp

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but have never gotten used to using it. It always seems like it either scrolls too fast, or I end up sitting there waiting for it to scroll. Maybe it'd work if you removed all hard returns so that all lines are of the same length, but

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
.com>> on behalf of Donna Goodin > mailto:doniado...@me.com>> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 1:55:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > They're actually big enough to do what they sa

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2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I don’t own a focus display. I was thinking about it. But not in the immediatenear future. What I would really like would be to see something that had some internal memory as well as an auto scroll feature that would work with devices including PCs, Max, and phones. That new human where display

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2018-04-29 Thread Maria Reyes
naries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays They're actually big enough to do what they say, that is true. But can and will aren't the same thing. For your sake, though, I hope that they do. You know, when I was using HIMS products, I always had very good customer service from them.

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2018-04-29 Thread 'Peggy' via MacVisionaries
I'm waiting for the Blitab if it ever comes out, or maybe the Canute. Would love a multi line display. Peggy and Dixie Marie Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: They're actually big enough to do what they say, that is true. But can and will aren't the same th

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Too bad. That's how the Edge is too. I think I want a display that can actually store documents, i.e. has internal storage built in. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:58 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > > >> On the Sd card.On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Donna Goodin >> wrote: >> >>

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2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
> On the Sd card.On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Donna Goodin > wrote: > > Hi Christine, > > Can you actually store files on the display, or do you store them on the SD > card? > Cheers, > Donna >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Christine Grassman >> wrote: >> >> Also, as far as Active Braill

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Christine, Can you actually store files on the display, or do you store them on the SD card? Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > Also, as far as Active Braille, Actilino, etc., there is Bluetooth > conductivity, and you can read files that way as w

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
They're actually big enough to do what they say, that is true. But can and will aren't the same thing. For your sake, though, I hope that they do. You know, when I was using HIMS products, I always had very good customer service from them. But that's been a few years now. I haven't really fo

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
Well, one of the advantages of a company like vfo is you figure they’re actually going to do what they say. Smaller companies have problems. Look at what happened to Baum. I am sure they’re going to come out with that functionality with the braille note taking. The fact that you can’t do wireles

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
All things being equal, I would prefer 40 cells as well; however, it just isn’t in the old budget. Also, I love true portability. I am looking forward to Bristol’s Canute 40-line display; this is something I have dreamed of having for years. My reading speed just cries out for it. :) Christine

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2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
Also, as far as Active Braille, Actilino, etc., there is Bluetooth conductivity, and you can read files that way as well. The SD card is merely if you want to use it as a stand-alone. > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:42 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > Nope, micro sd cards aren’t going anywhere. > > On A

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Really? I'm kind of intrigued by the prospect of a multiline display. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:41 PM, E.T. wrote: > > A pen with 12 cells, cute. The BS Plus with 32 cells made reading of Bard > books not so fun. So I too will never settle for less than 40. I also do not > think

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
Nope, micro sd cards aren’t going anywhere. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what kind. Certain flavors of SD cards are going to be around

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
thanks, Alia. This is good info to have. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:38 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > I’m not jason, but here is my two cents. you do have to use a sd card to > transfer, but I had to use a usb stick for vu so that’s no problem to me. no > I cannot use the file transf

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
A pen with 12 cells, cute. The BS Plus with 32 cells made reading of Bard books not so fun. So I too will never settle for less than 40. I also do not think I would go for a multi line display but would like to check one out just for grins. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.c

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
I hope you're right. But I'd definitely feel better having USB as an option. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be > a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what k

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
this display. Regardless of the company one chooses to work >>> with, there are pros and cons with all of them. I chose the Focus as I am >>> confident Freedom Scientific will be around to support this device. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> Sent f

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
this is just my opinion, of course, but I would never by anything as expensive as a braille display on the promise that a feature will be implemented in the future. Many of us--or at least I--have gotten burned that way. 😊 Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > As

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2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
I don’t think those cards are going to disappear anytime soon. It may not be a full-size SD card. It’s some kind of ST card, and I’m not sure what kind. Certain flavors of SD cards are going to be around for a long time. Look at all the phones that still use them, plus cameras etc. Sent from m

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Mary Otten
As of now, the focus only has a Calendar and o’clock, but note taking ability is coming they say, currently under testing and do for release this year. Unfortunately, at least as I understand it, the way to get notes you take off of the display and onto your other devices is via an SD card. In

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
That's very dated tech. I would be worried that one of these days SD cards are going to disappear altogether. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > I move files from my Mac to the SD card. > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >> J

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2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
I’m not jason, but here is my two cents. you do have to use a sd card to transfer, but I had to use a usb stick for vu so that’s no problem to me. no I cannot use the file transfer program, but I have no problem converting documents to brf and putting them on the card. It does remember your last

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
I move files from my Mac to the SD card. > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Jason, > > I demoed a HandyTech display a long time ago--like around 2007--and strongly > disliked the file transfer protocol. The display had to be connected to the > computer, and you used some

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
The focus used to be dumb. So far as I know, it still is, but I haven't paid much attention to it so I could be wrong. Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > I am absorbing way too much on a Sunday. (smiles) > > Oh I agree about having to use the SD card for the Ed

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, I am absorbing way too much on a Sunday. (smiles) Oh I agree about having to use the SD card for the Edge. This brings up a question. Is there such a thing as a dumb braille display these days? One that is strictly a display? That I want to stay away from. From E.T.'s Keyboar

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Jason, I demoed a HandyTech display a long time ago--like around 2007--and strongly disliked the file transfer protocol. The display had to be connected to the computer, and you used some program under Windows Utilities I think, like maybe VTerm? It was slow and annoying. How does one curren

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
frankly all I do is read books either on kindle, bookshare, or in standalone mode. even with the VU I never am able to get an adequate picture of a document. I’ll have to wait for a full page display for that. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: What do you do if you actually want

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
What do you do if you actually want to be able to see the way a document is laid out? Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:21 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > it really isn’t that big a deal with the way it scrolls. I don’t miss them. > > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Yik

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
There is a twelve. It's called the BraillePen. You couldn't give me one of those things for free. I don't even really like having 32 cells. Anything under forty is just too small, IMHO. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:16 PM, E.T. wrote: > > How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I thin

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Les Kriegler
> From: Mary Otten >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 1:56 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Braille Displays >> >> One of the things about the focus this place has been complaints about >> durability in the past. One of the new things w

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
it really isn’t that big a deal with the way it scrolls. I don’t miss them. On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionari

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi ET, Well, others have answered your first question. 😊 Like I said, the two things I most care about are word processor and file manager. All the social media stuff and all that that the Braille Sense devices have has little appeal, as I do that from my phone or Mac. I guess the three thin

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
E.T. wrote: >How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think there is a 12. Yes anything > less than 40 is out, even 32. It's the same for me, as I read and edit text extensively. However, if you're interested in the Active Tactile Control, the Active Braille, and the Braille Star, are both 40-ce

Re: Braille Displays

2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
In that case, the Active Braille has 40. Just a big Actilino, really. http://attriumph.com/braille-products/handytech/active-braille > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:16 PM, E.T. wrote: > > How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think t

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
How about 14? And maybe even a 12? I think there is a 12. Yes anything less than 40 is out, even 32. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/29/2018 10:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yikes! Having only

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Yikes! Having only sixteen cells would be an immediate deal-breaker for me. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:38 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > I got the actilino used. I wanted something in case my VU died. the dots on > it are becoming *very* soft. some of them hardly come up at all. I tho

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Ok thanks. Looks like I will be more informed now than ever before. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/29/2018 9:56 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: ET Focus is what Freedom Scientific has called its Br

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2018-04-29 Thread david.tanner100
: Braille Displays Political? Sure sounds like it. I had no idea that VFO took over all those companies. Kind of surprised that GW Micro is under that umbrella. It makes me nervous because this changes the power exerted by mergers like this. At the same time though, if done right, resources

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Political? Sure sounds like it. I had no idea that VFO took over all those companies. Kind of surprised that GW Micro is under that umbrella. It makes me nervous because this changes the power exerted by mergers like this. At the same time though, if done right, resources could be maximi

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2018-04-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
ET Focus is what Freedom Scientific has called its Braille displays for several years (maybe a decade). Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:53 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Donna, > Who actually develops the Focus line of products? Can you tell what little > I kno

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, Who actually develops the Focus line of products? Can you tell what little I know? (smiles) What I do like about the Edge is its not loaded down. I have a Brailesense Plus (dead now) and I barely used its features. Having a Mac, I can do heavy work there, and an iPhone, for quick

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2018-04-29 Thread Christine Grassman
I agree wholeheartedly about everything. I would love it if the scrolling could go even faster, but then, I am a really fast reader, and I guess there is only a certain degree of swiftness one can expect from refreshing dots. Since I have carpal tunnel syndrome, it is absolutely wonderful not to

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2018-04-29 Thread david.tanner100
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Wow, now we are getting political. VFO owns the companies that are now or were formally called: • Freedom Scientific • AI Squared •GW Miccro • The Paciello Group • Enhanced Vision • Optelec So what

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2018-04-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Wow, now we are getting political. VFO owns the companies that are now or were formally called: • Freedom Scientific • AI Squared •GW Miccro • The Paciello Group •Enhanced Vision • Optelec So what Blind technology firms are still out there? • HiMS • Humanware • A company with Brist

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2018-04-29 Thread alia robinson
I got the actilino used. I wanted something in case my VU died. the dots on it are becoming *very* soft. some of them hardly come up at all. I thought I would use the actilino as a backup, but I am using it exclusively now. I still love the vu, but the ability of the actilino to scroll based on

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Yep. Their last truly innovative product was the PacMate. That's been a brick for a long time now, and they haven't done anything since then--except eat other companies. One thing I would suggest as a factor for consideration is the notetaker component. I really like having a display that fu

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Donna, This is actually a concern I have. It goes back to the time when Freedom Scientific came to life and took over what, 3 companies, including Blazie? But we do not have many choices in the AT field. Yes I will certainly share my experiences. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@i

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
t;mailto:motte...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Saturday, April 28, 2018 1:56 PM *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: *Re: Braille Displays One of the things about the focus this place has been complaints about durability in the past. One of the new things

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
ET, I'll be curious about your impressions of the Focus 5. VFO is what used to be Freedom Scientific. Time was when I was a huge fan of theirs, but that hasn't been the case for over ten years now. If you check out the new Focus, please do share your impressions with the list. Cheers, Donna

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2018-04-29 Thread E.T.
Jason, If I can take the 5th for a spin I may try and test this for myself. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/28/2018 4:32 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: I recall reading recently t

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2018-04-29 Thread Donna Goodin
ET, I wouldn't settle for an Edge either. It just doesn't have that much to offer. I'm not sure there's anything else out there at the moment that does, but good luck. As for my Edge, I'll keep it around as a backup. I'm hoping my VU works for a long time to come, but if it dies, at least I

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