David, Loosen up, This issue is not worth throwing away the amount of access to mac technology resources and useage that this list has,
Take a step back and a few deep breaths and think about the steps that have been taken through this posting. Lifes not worth this crap, Get over it dude, I'm not an adaptive technology specialist but more a main stream technology specialist and I make mistakes on a daily basis. And I'm not a braille user but this information comes in handy if I have to discuss braille tech with someone that does use it. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018 12:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Well, as a not assistive technology specialist, excuse me for posting. I will be on subscribing because of people like you. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 5:41 PM, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, but as an assistive technology specialist who has been in this field > for over 30 years I have seen so many blind folks lead down the road to > purchase a Braille product that was not what they really needed because > people who didn't know what they were talking about gave them information > that was not correct. That isn't fair to that individual, and when I see > statements made that are completely untrue I will continue to say so. > > I am not completely opposed to Focus Braille displays, even though my > experience with them is that they are cheaply made, and their Braille cells > are far inferior to those of a majority of Braille displays on the market > today. > > For the price a person would do much better with a Hims Braille Edge for > almost the same price as a Focus Braille Blue 40, and have note taking > features that the Focus does not have. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Displays > > David, please calm down. I said it was all from memory. So just get off your > high horse. For once. I did look up the current information on the hymns site > about the active braille etc. It’s very expensive for what it is. If you have > the big bucks, go for it. If you’re like most of us, well you can dream. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 5:23 PM, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am sorry, but I cannot believe that Earle would have ever said such a >> thing. I know Earle very well, and actually talked to him earlier today. >> We both live in the twin cities and have worked together on projects for >> many years. I also own a Active Braille which I have used on my computer at >> work for five years, and have recommended purchase of a number of Active >> Braille and Active Star displays from Earle's company for many years, the >> latest being this fall. >> >> The Active Braille, Active Star and Actileno have worked with the iPhone >> since as early as 2011 when I actually got my Active Braille at work. >> >> I am not sure where you would have gotten this information, but it is >> completely incorrect. Please check your facts before you make statements >> like this about products you have not owned or never used. It is not fair >> to the company and their excellent products, and even more unfair to hand >> out false information to blind people looking for a good Braille display. >> >> Frankly, I would rate my Active Braill as at least 50 times better made, and >> with far more features than any Focus Braille display you will find >> anywhere. And, remember that Active Braille displays line of displays all >> have the ability to do note taking on them, but you won't find any Focus >> that has note taking, or nearly as well made Braille cells. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 2:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Braille Displays >> >> I would actually be interested in hearing more about that with the active >> braille devices. I was under the very strong impression, based on interviews >> I had heard with Earl Harrison, and I think somethings I have seen written >> elsewhere, that it did not work with iPhones or Macs. Only with a special >> software. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:20 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>> You know, I've always thought that autoscroll sounded cool, but >>>> have never gotten used to using it. It always seems like it either >>>> scrolls too fast, or I end up sitting there waiting for it to scroll. >>> >>> >>> The advantage of the Active Tactile Control in some HandyTech >>> displays is that it senses the location of your fingers, so the >>> scrolling isn't based on a timer. >>> >>> It's interesting to note from this discussion that it reportedly >>> works on Apple devices. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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