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>> The disabled are only a small percentage of the apple user environment
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
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> But for now the iMac and mac mini will have to continue to use the standard
> keyboards.
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ercentage of the apple user environment
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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Subject: Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis
First off and most importantly, do tell Sabahattin hello and I hope he’s well,
it’s been a while. L
2016 9:02 AM
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Subject: Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis
So what about my I Mac Scott? I think you remember what type of processor and
what kind of memory I have, is that too old although it does run with no
problems. Do apple say that a late 2012 I Mac and a 2
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Hi,
It's OK
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Hi,
It's OK
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To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis
There was no mention of any of their desktops being refreshed so it looks like
you will have to stick with old to ancient hardwa
First off and most importantly, do tell Sabahattin hello and I hope he’s well,
it’s been a while. Like you, I too would listen to him, he’s a very smart and
technically skilled fellow. I have a great deal of respect for him and hope
he’s well.
Next, one of the good things about Apple is they h
Never believe what someone says about buying gadgets as although I might buy
the latest I phone, I am definitely not buying the latest I watch. I cancelled
my orders for the watch when Sabahattin told me that he did not think too much
about the watch as he said that the watch reminded him of a
I actually have a small keyboard for my iPad Mini, that does not have function
keys.
I am sitting with that keyboard, typing this. The FN key with the numbers dash
and = keys does the same as the function keys. In short, yes, tech older than
me is getting fazed out, but so what. So were the Mat
Nobody says you have to, you’re missing the point. As long as it works for you
use it. Apple seems to run on 4 or 5 year cycles with both the phones and to
some degree the computers. The big cutoffs seem to be when they change
processor types either from RISK to Intel and so forth. Your 2012
So what about my I Mac Scott? I think you remember what type of processor and
what kind of memory I have, is that too old although it does run with no
problems. Do apple say that a late 2012 I Mac and a 2014 MacMini will not able
to run new software? I'm not being unreasonable, I'm being prac
Kawal, it’s not that easy now come on that’s just unreasonable.
Computers grow old like everything else. That G4 processor your Mac used to
have isn’t usable with new software. The compilers don’t work and it’s just
impractical. During the keynote yesterday they mentioned that the current
Ma
A way of saying, get rid of your computer. Why on earth should one get rid of
a computer if it's going strong, no need to not let it update. No wonder we
live in a throw-away society as manufacturers encourage land fills and alike
for Governments to say that there is no place to build houses e
A definite +1.
I always enjoy reading Tim’s posts as well, very good content there.
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
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> I'd like to compliment your posts Tim. Out of all the people on this list,
> I'd say you speak a lot of sense and have so much knowledge to contribute.
Christopher, ghz mean nothing. Clock rate hasn’t mattered in processors since
probably the early to mid 90s. What would be a more meaningful number are
flops or some other real measure of work done but the oscillation rate of the
control crystal doesn’t matter a hill of beans with modern instr
That was much more to the point and concise. (smiles)
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/28/2016 12:33 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
It’s been going on since the 70s with Apple.
Round and Round we go.
On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:36 PM, E.T. wrot
I'd like to compliment your posts Tim. Out of all the people on this list, I'd
say you speak a lot of sense and have so much knowledge to contribute. Not
that this means I don't listen to other's on this list as I do and others who
have much to contribute too. But, Tim, I always read your mes
Actually Robbin, this is not true. The last quarter released by apple which
was just a few days ago showed 45 million iPhones sold. This only included 2
weeks of the iPhone 7+ sales which are way ahead of schedule due to in part the
self destruction of Samsung. Apple makes over a billion doll
It’s been going on since the 70s with Apple.
Round and Round we go.
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:36 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Progress is not without pain. What would be better, stagnation? If Apple
> was 100% focused on the blind user share of the market, it might be different?
>
> History repeats
It won’t be, nothing changes you do things as you always have. At some point,
your computer just won’t receive any more updates. The operating system will
eventually not be compatible because it’s to new. Sort of the standard way of
things happening.
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Kawal Guc
What? And this is only running at the very least a 1.1 GHZ intel M3 processor?
That sounds *real* slow to me.
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 10:52, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote:
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> I wanna add to this, if you use the Mac book, not the mac book pro,
> but the Fanless design, it may seem small, underrated,
I would agree with the triple tap power idea.
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 11:37, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
>
> There we go,
>
> Triple-tapping power sounds like the most consistent and logical way to go.
>
> Holding command down and tapping the touch bar also sounds okay, but not like
> something apple
Hi,
It's OK to express concern, it's OK to wonder, but people need to realize that
these decisions are not made without accessibility in mind. If a change is
made such as the removal of the F-keys, then there will just be different
keystrokes to accomplish task that originally required those F
There was no mention of any of their desktops being refreshed so it looks like
you will have to stick with old to ancient hardware, for now at least.
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 19:33, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> So what will happen for those people who have I Mac and Mac Mini's who have
> not changed
you DoKnow that Apple's Sales of its iPhones are Slippin'
Don't Cha?
And, it's only been about 1Month since its Release Referrin'To
TheRelease of the iPhone7 & iPhone7+
EvenWith Samsung's SNAFU of its GalaxyNote7, it's Still TheKing
AsItPertainsTo MobilePhones
ImagineThat
with All of TheLosse
Progress is not without pain. What would be better, stagnation? If
Apple was 100% focused on the blind user share of the market, it might
be different?
History repeats itself, over and over. Look at the headphone jack,
how much grief that caused right up to release day. And as soon as
r
So what will happen for those people who have I Mac and Mac Mini's who have not
changed their computers for a number of years as there will be no touch bars
etc. So how will that be accommodated? I have not listened to the event as
yet.
Kawal.
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 19:06, christopher hallswort
Well you know what? Found out through the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide that
as part of the new and changed key commands set for VoiceOver under macOS
Sierra, VO-- (hyphen) will decrease the system volume and vo-= (equals) will
increase the system volume. Actually, I will correct this by sayin
Apple will almost certainly be forced to add yet another keystroke for
doing what now is the direct press of a function key, volume for example.
This is because when you cram multiple levels of function into a touch bar
there has to be a way to choose among levels.
There are far far too ma
I'm sure they have something. It's like everything else. I personally can use a
touchscreen just fine but use a bluetooth keyboard if I'd like to type a lot of
stuff quickly. You'll just have to figure out what your workflow is. I'm sure
someone will get us a physical description once these star
Probably similar to the way touch screens are handled now under voice over.
You’ll probably flick or touch near the spot. Maybe there will be some sort of
tactile indicator. I can’t wait to try one out.
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 7:34 AM, gs wrote:
>
> I care about access to the function keys in
I wrote a letter to accessibility, let’s see what we get for an answer.
Hopefully they will shed some light on this.
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Brandt Steenkamp
> wrote:
>
> There we go,
>
> Triple-tapping power sounds like the most consistent and logical way to go.
>
> Holding command
Hi,
I get the concerns about this, but I would just remind everyone that there were
a lot of very similar discussions when the early iPhones became popular. I
remember lots of folks saying that blind people would never be able to use a
touch phone as easily as we can use a phone with a tactile
I care about access to the function keys in general and not just what currently
happens when one presses Command F5. I use the function keys for adjusting
screen brightness and volume, etc. I wonder how all the other items currently
available via the function keys will be handled?
On Oct 28, 20
There we go,
Triple-tapping power sounds like the most consistent and logical way to go.
Holding command down and tapping the touch bar also sounds okay, but not like
something apple would do.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
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I wanna add to this, if you use the Mac book, not the mac book pro,
but the Fanless design, it may seem small, underrated, but it is so
powerful that it can semi consistently run latest model of flight
sims in winddows 7, settings are real weather, full realism turned on,
and over 120 FPS. It was
IF Apple is truly going for consistancy, I have a feeling I know how we will
turn on Voice Over with the new touch bar. I don’t know this for sure: but,
I’d be willing to guess that to turn on Voice Over, you simply touch or press
the power button three times quickly if Voice Over is off. OF
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