RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
al Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2016 3:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 I suggest the Great White North

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
iginal Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 18 July 2016 3:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Aww come on, I’m going to ne

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
2016 3:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Aww come on, I’m going to need a Hillary / Trump escape plan! Peter Jackson could hire me to make sure his render farms are networked properly. I’d be happy to cut you in

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-17 Thread Scott Granados
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only > 22 > > David, when that business grows large

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
f Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2016 12:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 David, when that business grows large enough you need an IT department, you let me know. Would be nice to have a post hill

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Scott Granados
as a teacher assistant to the main resource teacher preparing >>>>>>> materials in Braille for the blind and visually impaired students. When >>>>>>> she would put handouts and other information in Braille for

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Katie Zodrow
erials in Braille for the blind and visually impaired students. When >>>>>>> she would put handouts and other information in Braille for me or the >>>>>>> high school students, she would normally use either BrailleEdit or >>>>>&

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Devin Prater >> Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 8:56 AM >> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at >> only 22 >> >> I talked to

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Donna Goodin
gt;> she would put handouts and other information in Braille for me or the >>>>>>> high school students, she would normally use either BrailleEdit or >>>>>>> another program called Bex. I remember my mom taught me how to use the >>>>>&

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread David Chittenden
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden > Sent: Friday, 15 July 2016 8:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only > 22 > > In the US, it is n

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 In the US, it is necessary to either graduate from high school, or pass the GED, Graduate Equivalency Deploma, a series of exams that one completes to prove that one is college (higher edudation) ready. If one

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
aries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 It is an expansion of my current business. I am now contracted to do some government work with those who are disabled. However, it lines me up for something which will be coming up in a couple years a

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
July 2016 10:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Well, I just signed a new contracting agreement, so I am about to start a new business. If I am correct, I will preceed an upcoming trend and be ready to cap

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
ries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even worse, however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind. Those stats, often sited in studies across the board, com

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Hi Scott, I guess us Canadians are fairly progressive :). Actually, it seems to just take the right leadership willing to give it a try. When I first interviewed over 28 years ago for the School District I currently work for, the

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Maurice, don’t let the rehab folks steer you wrong. Mac skills are very valuable in the work place. Many companies are going all Mac. I worked for Thomson International for a while

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 5:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Hi Dona, I always learn something new from these discussions and have my horizons widened. On another

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread David Chittenden
ups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater > Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 8:56 AM > To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only > 22 > > I talked to her years a

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
l.com>> To: "Mac Group" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Cc: "Terje Strømberg" mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 3:56 AM Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Take care Great arti

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2016 8:56 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 I talked to her years ago, before she joined Apple. Yeah, she’s pretty cool. I guess I’m the blindie he

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread David Chittenden
I remember my mom taught me how to use the >>>>>> BrailleEdit software for word processing. You had to use three different >>>>>> 5.25 inch disks just to use the program, and they had to be used in a >>>>>> certain order so the program could work co

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread Donna Goodin
latform most of the time from 1998 until 2013, then I decided >>>>> to switch back over to the Mac. I had worked in a couple call centers as >>>>> a telephone reservations sales agent for 6 years, and wanted to get back >>>>> into the entertainment indust

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread Katie Zodrow
e entertainment industry doing audio production work and music >>>> again. I majored in Music Production and Engineering in college, and >>>> wanted to get back into a career I enjoy and am passionate about . Now, I >>>> do just about everything with the Mac and

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread Donna Goodin
efore I started >>>>> college. >>>>> >>>>> I used a Mac computer for the first time in the summer of 2000 after my >>>>> first semester of college and learned outSPOKEN. I attended Berklee >>>>> College of Music in Boston from

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread David Chittenden
the time from 1998 until 2013, then I decided to >>>> switch back over to the Mac. I had worked in a couple call centers as a >>>> telephone reservations sales agent for 6 years, and wanted to get back >>>> into the entertainment industry doing audio production

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread David Chittenden
Please note: we were seeking the most recent study, not older studies. All reports more recent than the 1995 (I believe) study cited that study as the source. That study was the most recent. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone >

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-14 Thread David Chittenden
gt; > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden > Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2016 9:24 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only > 22

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Scott, I guess us Canadians are fairly progressive :). Actually, it seems to just take the right leadership willing to give it a try. When I first interviewed over 28 years ago for the School District I currently work for, the Assistant Superintendent interviewed me. My blindness didn't

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
Maurice, don’t let the rehab folks steer you wrong. Mac skills are very valuable in the work place. Many companies are going all Mac. I worked for Thomson International for a while and they switched out 60,000 Dells with Macs, most investment firms are Mac, Juniper was all Mac, Trip Advisor a

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
wrote: >> >> Wut? "Stupid sighted people"? That's a little harsh, don'tcha think? LOL! >> Smile. >> --- >> It's all good, just am sayin'. >> >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instruct

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Dona, I always learn something new from these discussions and have my horizons widened. On another list I learned of a low vision registered nurse which surprised me as well as engine rebuilders and furniture builders. The only blind person I’ve ever ran in to in a professional setting rando

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
t . Now, I do just about >>> everything with the Mac and my iPhone. I received the new VarioUltra >>> braille display earlier this year, and use that device with the iphone or >>> when I’m at work and don’t want to use speech. >>> >>> I can’t believe how far we’ve come

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
ed outSPOKEN >>>>> when I was learning Digital Performer and ProTools. I still used the >>>>> Windows platform most of the time from 1998 until 2013, then I decided >>>>> to switch back over to the Mac. I had worked in a couple call centers as

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
OKEN. I attended Berklee >>>>>> College of Music in Boston from 2000 to 2004, and almost everyone was >>>>>> using the Mac OS. For a couple of my music tech classes, I used >>>>>> outSPOKEN when I was learning Digital Performer and ProTools. I still &g

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Scott Granados
Hi, I’ve heard that 70% number far before the 90S. I absolutely trust david’s statements and such but I think that idea has an even earlier history. I remember hearing it from my mother in the 80S when she would attend some parents conferences. Scared the heck out of my parents and they put m

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, David. I’ve also heard the same statistic for a long time that 70 percent of blind people are unemployed. I didn’t realize the study was probably from the 1990’s. I hope that number has dropped since that time as well. 60 percent is a good improvement though. Katie > On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:3

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Katie Zodrow
sionate about . Now, I >>>> do just about everything with the Mac and my iPhone. I received the new >>>> VarioUltra braille display earlier this year, and use that device with the >>>> iphone or when I’m at work and don’t want to use speech. >>>> >&g

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Katie Zodrow
g Digital Performer and ProTools. I still used the >>>>> Windows platform most of the time from 1998 until 2013, then I decided >>>>> to switch back over to the Mac. I had worked in a couple call centers as >>>>> a telephone reservations sal

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Devin Prater
ollege, and >>>> wanted to get back into a career I enjoy and am passionate about . Now, I >>>> do just about everything with the Mac and my iPhone. I received the new >>>> VarioUltra braille display earlier this year, and use that device with the >>>

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Donna Goodin
ice with the iphone or >>> when I’m at work and don’t want to use speech. >>> >>> I can’t believe how far we’ve come with technology since the 1980’s! Back >>> then, everything was so huge and bulky 30 years ago. Now the size of >>> everything h

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
Chittenden Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2016 9:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even worse, however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2016 1:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Hi Anne, That's really interesting. I didn't do as well a

RE: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Simon Fogarty
Great Chick, And an awesome story. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2016 11:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread David Chittenden
chnology changes happen during the next 30 to 40 >> years. >>> Katie >> >>> On Jul 12, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> wrote: >>> >>> Wut? "Stupid sighted people"? That's a little harsh, don'tcha think? >&

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Katie Zodrow
s drastically shrunk down and gotten much smaller. It will be >> interesting to see what technology changes happen during the next 30 to 40 >> years. >>> Katie >> >>> On Jul 12, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> wrote: >>> >

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Donna Goodin
ll good, just am sayin'. >> >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> clgillan...@gmail.com >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - From: "Terje Strømberg" >> >> To: &

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Tim, I agree. I think it's really fun and interesting getting to know a bit about list members' history and early computer experiences. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 12, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I love reading this personal historical info on folks. Sure, off topic, bu

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Katie Zodrow
ne: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Terje Strømberg" > To: "Mac Group" > Cc: "Terje Strømberg" > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only > 22 > &

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: "Terje Strømberg" To: "Mac Group" Cc: "Terje Strømberg" Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 3:56 AM Subject: Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22 Take care Great article. So many stupid sighted people around. 12. jul. 2016 kl. 08

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread maurice.mines
Good afternoon, I figured I’d chime in on this thread, my computing life somewhat goes like this Windows for a great number of years, then I wind up going to grad school and switching completely to the Mac, now rehab tells me that in order to get any type of employment I must use Windows, instea

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I love reading this personal historical info on folks. Sure, off topic, but totally acceptable in my world. The common thread here is supportive and progressive parents and teachers. I really didn't use Braille until my late teens, probably due to having some usable sight and an immature

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Anne, That's really interesting. I didn't do as well as you with the Optacon. I was a very fast braille reader, and at age 11, lacked the patience for the slow speed of reading with the Optacon. But I can see where it would have been different having a specific purpose in mind. I was usi

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Scott, You know, your posts always have so much that I want to respond to, that I hardly know where to begin. :) I didn't know that your blindness was illness-related. That truly must have been frightening for you and your parents. No one has ever really figured out the cause of my blin

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi David, I've seen similar studies. Glad we're finally figuring that out. :) > On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:53 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Donna, > > I am seeing current studies which are demonstrating that younger girls > actually tend to have greater STEM aptitude compared with boys. Someth

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-12 Thread Terje Strømberg
Take care Great article. So many stupid sighted people around. > 12. jul. 2016 kl. 08.19 skrev Anne Robertson : > > I grew up in England and between the ages of 7 and 17, attended schools for > the blind where maths was taught, but the only science was biology, which > didn’t interest me at

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Anne Robertson
I grew up in England and between the ages of 7 and 17, attended schools for the blind where maths was taught, but the only science was biology, which didn’t interest me at the time. I would have preferred to learn physics. I finished my secondary education in a mainstream school and specialised i

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread David Chittenden
Donna, I am seeing current studies which are demonstrating that younger girls actually tend to have greater STEM aptitude compared with boys. Something changes for most of them by the time they complete secondary school. This is the subject of several current research studies. David Chittenden

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread David Chittenden
I used the information in an interview today, and one of the panelists said he noticed the same thing. I shifted the interview to a brief speculation on why this might be (I enjoy briefly redirecting interviews). The concensus of the panel was that the number continues being used because it is g

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Scott Granados
Donna, it amazes me how similar our histories are. My childhood has a lot of parallels to yours. My mother and father had me at about the same time frame. My father had just come back from Vietnam serving as a marine and my mother graduated college with an Art degree. I’m not sure if it was

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Scott, First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post. But ... As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math and the sciences weren't for me. And this despite the fact that my dad was a computer guy, who spent lots of time and ener

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Scott, First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post. But ... As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math and the sciences weren't for me. And this despite the fact that my dad was a computer guy, who spent lots of time and ener

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Scott Granados
Hi David, you know, I’ve heard that 70% number for ever, even pre 1995. I hope you’re right though, I’d love to see that number drop meaningfully. > On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even > worse, howe

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Scott Granados
So here’s my problem with the article. I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support her efforts. I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community for the design side. I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s discussion of teaching childre

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22Wow! This is incredible! Thanks for sharing. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Jonathan C. Cohn To: Macvisi

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread David Chittenden
Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even worse, however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind. Those stats, often sited in studies across the board, come from a study published in 1995 or 1997 (I would need to look it up again for the exact date). The most

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Interesting stats they mention about correlation between braille literacy and employment. I just had an iOS developer reach out to me who said WWDC had a heavy emphasis on accessibility this year. I've never been so I can't compare. I hope that's true. Nothing but good can come from more develo

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, they say a couple things about braille. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Jul 2016, at 06:29, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about > braille. Bu

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread Katie Zodrow
Thanks for posting the article! Wow!! That's great there's a really passionate young blind engineer working at Apple doing awesome work. I had no idea there were would be so many innovations for accessibility this fall with enhancing VoiceOver features. That's great! Thanks for sharing this. Ka

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

2016-07-11 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Jonathan, Thanks for sharing this. :) Looks like Jordyn is going to be a fantastic "DESIGN engineer"! > Talk soon On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about > braille. But at least it shows there are