Physics and Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-19 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Scott, Our friend is thinking of conservation of energy. Since light is a form of energy absence of light must be a form of non-energy. So, what happened to that energy? I don't know directly, but I would expect that the actual wattage of the bite the mid it is very minimal compared to the power

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-17 Thread Todor Fassl
I have to apologize. I missed some of your message. You're right. I'm wrong. I am really sorry. Technically, I may be violating my pledge not to go OT but I think this message does not violate the spirit of the pledge. On 11/17/2016 07:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote: My explanation is exactly w

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-17 Thread Scott Granados
My explanation is exactly what you said, you use matrixes of transistors to move the liquid crystals in to different charged states that filter white light. I’m not going to argue with you because you’re to dense to listen and it’s a waste of my time but you literally confirmed everything I said

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-17 Thread Todor Fassl
You don't actually understand how a screen works, right? Actually, I googled it and it does make sense. So a touch screen works by filtering phosphorescent light. It's likechristmas lights. They are just white lights with a colored transparent plastic bulb. The screen aligns crystals to filte

RE: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
ooglegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 6:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation David this sounds correct to me as well, black requires juice just like all th

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-16 Thread Scott Granados
Of course black requires power, any light omitted regardless of color requires the same amount of power. The color of the pixels doesn’t matter they all generate the same amount regardless of whether it’s white, black or something in-between. Hell, pixels technically don’t even have to omit vi

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-16 Thread Todor Fassl
No, black does not requirejuice. I have been thinking about this and this thing about the screen curtain not saving power defies the laws of physics. When the screen curtain is off, light is emitted from the screen. Energy is escaping through the screen. If the screen curtain is off, where doe

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-16 Thread Scott Granados
David this sounds correct to me as well, black requires juice just like all the other colors. Turning down the brightness is the only way to save power with the screen. Frankly, I don’t bother, just put the brightness in auto mode and let her rip. > On Nov 15, 2016, at 1:00 PM, David Chitten

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-16 Thread Todor Fassl
I'm glad I found out that screen curtain saves no battery life. But I think turning the screen brightness down does. I have mine set to 0 on all of my IOS devices. A visually impaired friend had his set very high and he'd actually lose power while it was plugged in. If he was using it for gamin

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-15 Thread David Chittenden
According to Apple, screen curtain has no effect on battery life. Screen curtain sets all the pixels to black. It does not turn the backlight off. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 16/11/2016, at 06:42, Ander

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Screen curtain does not help saving battery from what i have heard. But i am not sure. /A > 13 nov. 2016 kl. 19:17 skrev Anne Robertson : > > Hello, > > The battery drain problem is a known issue and would appear to be fixed by > the second release of iOS 10.1.1. It has nothing to do with us

RE: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-14 Thread Simon Fogarty
:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2016 10:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation Hello Simon, This battery draining issue is related to iOS 10.1 and iOS 10.1.1 and has happened o

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Scott Granados
Andrew, browse to beta.apple.com and log in there with your Apple ID. Follow the instructions there and write to me directly if you have any problems as the list moderators don’t like to much discussion on the betas. You can also join the off-topic-is-on-topic+subscr...@google.groups.com which

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello, The battery drain problem is a known issue and would appear to be fixed by the second release of iOS 10.1.1. It has nothing to do with using VoiceOver as non-voiceOver users have the same problem. Cheers, Anne > On 13 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Todor Fassl wrote: > > Have you fiddled with

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Andrew Lamanche
I have set screen brightness to around 30%. I will reduce it further though. I have forgotten the screen curtain. Thanks for the tip. How would I obtain the 10.2 beta? Andrew > On 13 Nov 2016, at 16:50, Todor Fassl wrote: > > Have you fiddled with the screen brightness? I have the screen b

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Todor Fassl
Have you fiddled with the screen brightness? I have the screen bightness on my itouch set to zero and the screen curtain on as well. But some of my friends who are visually impaired turned the brightness up and it drained their battery a lot. On 11/12/2016 01:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Scott Granados
You might also install the beta 10.2 code which seems to drain a little less although Never had the problem described and also smooths out bluetooth further. Might be worth investigating to get the patch you need a bit earlier than waiting for a full release. > On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:24 AM, Ann

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Simon, This battery draining issue is related to iOS 10.1 and iOS 10.1.1 and has happened on iPods, iPhone SE, iPhone 6, iPhone 5S and I don’t know how many others. I believe the problem has been fixed with the second release of iOS 10.1.1, but I haven’t installed that one since I fixed m

RE: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi, I find that interesting I've been listening to an audio book today and including going back a couple of hours in the book due to falling asleep while reading / listening, to it, the book has been playing now for 8 or so hours on one charge, It was on ac power over night but hasn't need

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-12 Thread Singing Sparrow
I have had this happen with my Ipod Touch 6th gen as well, and I think Apple should fix this problem. On 11/12/2016 1:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi Listers, I have a new ipod touch - the latest one - but I'm somewhat puzzled if not disappointed, that the battery doesn't last on it as long

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-12 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hello Anne, Thank you for responding. I have updated to 10.1.1 on my ipod touch but it still feels rather dodgy. I have spoken to Apple support and they have advised me to restore my ipod. I have done so. Things have become better but I'm still uncertain. What makes me worried is that I w

Re: Battery draining quicly on ipod touch latest generation

2016-11-12 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andrew, Is it on iOS 10.1 or 10.1.1? There’s a problem on some iOS devices with these releases. I had it on my iPhone SE, but fixed it by restoring to factory settings. I had to do this for iOS 10.1 and iOS 10.1.1. Apparently, a new iOS 10.1.1 has been released which does not cause the pr