Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-13 Thread Steve Holmes
Yes, I use it with iTunes all the time. It allows me to jump quickly back and forth between the music browser and the table of current tracks. I also find this key very useful in bookle. I use it to jump between the message list and list of IMAP folders in Mail but for reading actual messages,

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-12 Thread David McLean
What version does the firmware say on your Focus just out of curiosity? You may need to call Freedom Scientific and ask them to send you the latest Firmware update. On Jan 12, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Scott, can you think of any way I might be able to fix this issue on my

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-12 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Scott, can you think of any way I might be able to fix this issue on my focus? The routing keys have never worked, since I got the machine. Thank you. Kristeen Hughes Skype: lostonsylvane On Jan 11, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Kristeen. All braille devices that I have used, and t

Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-11 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello, I use this command within skype. It lets me jump to the first table where I press down arrow to get to contacts, then press VO-J again which takes me to the contact list where all I need do is arrow up and down to see the contacts. Much quicker than all the interacting and uninteractin

go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-11 Thread Nicholas Parsons
VO-J can also be used • in Skype and Messages to jump between the conversation HTML area and the edit field to type instant messages; • in NewsRack to jump between the table of feeds, the table of articles and the HTML area displaying the selected article; and

Re: Braille Sense oN Hand and Mac, was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Scott Have you ever had panning problems with any of the braille displays you have tried? I'm still having issues with my Braille Sense on Hand not panning properly. It only displays the first 18 cells of the line, then jumps to the beginning of the next line when I pan the display. It ignore

Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-11 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
I use it in itunes. It lets me jump to lcd screen to see status fast. Or in iphone apps view. I can quickly find filie sharing apps. hth, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > I only asked bec

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-11 Thread Scott Davert
Hi Kristeen. All braille devices that I have used, and that amounts to about 15 on the mac side, support cursor routing buttons. So I'm not sure what the issue is there. Scott On 1/11/13, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Christine > The cursor routing keys work absolutely as expected on my Braille Sen

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Christine The cursor routing keys work absolutely as expected on my Braille Sense ON Hand braille display. So there's something not right about yours not working. What braille display are you using? On 12/01/2013, at 5:05 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I am very grateful for the help on the VO pl

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-11 Thread Les Kriegler
They work. I just activated a link from within an e-mail message using the router keys. I did have to press the router key twice to activate the link, though. I have also used the routing buttons to find errors in documents and then was able to correct the errors. Les On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-11 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I am very grateful for the help on the VO plus J command. I ,like others, use it exclusively, and this makes it a lot easier. I have another question regarding using a braille display. Is it true that the routing keys above each braille cell do nothing when pressed using the Mac? I find this ha

Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-11 Thread Alex Hall
I only asked because I've heard of people using the command in iTunes, and possibly other apps as well, so did not know when and where it is commonly used. On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Alex, I think you answered your own question, . I will only use this > keystroke in the

Re: go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-11 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, I think you answered your own question, . I will only use this keystroke in the Mail App. I spend considerable time reading through Mail in Conversation View. Now, I could press the Return Key, invoke a Read All command and then return to the message list. Being able to jump back and f

go to linked item command (was Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac)

2013-01-10 Thread Alex Hall
No problem, but why is it so useful? I understand how it works in the mail app, but aside from that I can't see how or when I would want to use it. How do I know where it will go? What item is linked to what? Must I interact with something first? Can there be chains of links? Perhaps if I had a

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-10 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, nice catch! I assigned space with j to the go to linked item command, and it works from within the messages list. Thank you, it's easier on my hands to press the braille key combination, and I'll be using this keystroke all of the time now. Les On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Alex Hall w

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-10 Thread Alex Hall
So, I haven't tested this or followed this thread too closely. I just had a look in the commands menus and I think the command you guys want is in the navigation menu, called "go to linked item". At least, if you press vo-h and go to commands, then navigation, it says that vo-j is assigned to th

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-10 Thread Mary Otten
Scott, Please put the answer to this question on list, and I'm sure it will help others as well. Vo J is such a useful command for those of us who like to use the preview pane in mail. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-10 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Scott, Okay, thanks for the assist on this one. I'll look forward to hearing the resolution. Les On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > Hi Les. > Well, I was able to do this at one time, but I'm missing a step in the > process now as well. I'll have to contact someone I know of

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-10 Thread Scott Davert
Hi Les. Well, I was able to do this at one time, but I'm missing a step in the process now as well. I'll have to contact someone I know off list and get this info for you. Sorry about that. I know it's possible, because I sat at a table a few months ago and went through the process with someone, bu

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Kristeen, are you holding down your routing buttons for a couple of seconds. I find that at least on the Brailliant Bi 40, holding down the routing button results in the word I am on being spoken. I'd suggest creating a short practice document and experiment with using the cursor routing butto

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
How exactly did you assign that VO+J command? I have not seen it be an available option. Could you walk me through it? Kristeen On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > Not only that, but if there is not a command associated with a > VoiceOver keyboard command, you can assign a comman

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Whenever I try to close a window with the command I assigned to it, I get a yes or now box and then whatever I choose, I am told that it is not a command that is supported. Kristeen On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I turned my preview panel off and instead open messages with ent

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I'd loke to use VO+j as well from the keyboard, but there seems to be no way to do this. Also, I can't use any of the routing keys above the braille cells to move the cursor. This is frustrating me greatly. Kristeen On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > They say you can not teach

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Thanks Scott. I just need to know which action to assign that key too. I appreciate your assistance. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > Hi less. > To be sure I'm giving you the right instructions, I'm going to have to > do this tomorrow. I left my macbook at

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Scott Davert
Hi less. To be sure I'm giving you the right instructions, I'm going to have to do this tomorrow. I left my macbook at work. So tomorrow on my break, I'll go through the process and be sure I'm giving you the proper instructions. Take care, Scott On 1/9/13, Les Kriegler wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Ok

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Scott, Okay, I figured out how to remap keys. I used space with J to interact with current item. But when I'm in a message list and I use that command, it doesn't jump to the text which is what I desire. I didn't see anything that would allow this to occur, but I could have missed it. Les

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Scott, can you explain the process for how you set up the OJ to work with space J and the keyboard? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > Not only that, but if there is not a command associated with a > VoiceOver keyboard command, you can assign a comman

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Scott Davert
Not only that, but if there is not a command associated with a VoiceOver keyboard command, you can assign a command to it on your braille keyboard. I did this with VO plus J. It's now J-chord on my Braille Edge. Scott On 1/9/13, Les Kriegler wrote: > Alex, thanks for this. As is often the case,

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, thanks for this. As is often the case, there are many ways to accomplish the same task. I learned that space with Dot 8 simulates the Return key, which I prefer. I'll try Space with X, although I didn't see that in the default braille table. By the way, if you go into VO Utility, Brail

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Teresa Cochran
Also, you can use dot-8-space for enter and dots 1-2-space for escape or cancel. HtH, Teresa "We're made of star-stuff."--Carl Sagan On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > I turned my preview panel off and instead open messages with enter. So, in a > display, space-e will simulate e

Re: Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Alex Hall
I turned my preview panel off and instead open messages with enter. So, in a display, space-e will simulate enter and open the message, space-x should close it by simulating escape (I've not tested it). If not, assign a command to "close window", if that is possible. On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:26 PM,

Question and Comment on Using a Braille Display with a Mac

2013-01-09 Thread Les Kriegler
They say you can not teach an old dog new tricks. Well, this old dog is, for the first time, using braille input on a braille display and am really enjoying it. I recently purchased the Brailliant bi 40. With so many keys in play with the Mac, it's really nice to reduce keystrokes with braill