Try pressing VO + F2 twice quickly, then review the list of Safari windows to
see if you can find the pop-up listed in the list of open Safari windows.
If you don’t find it there, try pressing VO + F1 twice quickly, and see if a
system dialog is in the list of running items.
HTH.
- Brad
Dear List,
When using Safari, I get a message from the Web page,
Pop up Message session will exspire in 30 seconds.
I can not find the message so I can hit the button to keep me signed in.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rob
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Thanks, Jonathan. Looks like an interesting app. I did check AppleVis and did
not see a review there, though. At this point, if I plunk down money, I’ll
probably go with pop-up Blocker, just because someone on this list is using it,
so it should be mostly accessible.
Cheers,
Donna
> On
g most annoying, I did check in Settings and Pop-ups
> are blocked. That’s why I’m so perplexed.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 8:30 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>
>> Reader mode with Command Shift R will help on sites that have articles. If
>> you have
Thanks for the reader mode suggestion. I’ll give that a try. For both the
websites that I’m finding most annoying, I did check in Settings and Pop-ups
are blocked. That’s why I’m so perplexed.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 7, 2022, at 8:30 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>
> Reader mode wit
Reader mode with Command Shift R will help on sites that have articles. If you
have used it on the iPhone it works the same way on the Mac, only better as I
have had some sneaky pop ups on the phone. Also, if you go to a website in
Safari, open the the menu bar, and go to the
Safari Menu, go
Hi all,
I’m trying to figure out how pop-ups work, and ultimately, what I need to do so
I never. See them. I have not purchased the software that was recommended
earlier, that that is still on my list of possible solutions. Here’s my
question. I have all the settings in Safari set to block
Hi,
I got it.
I didn’t think of trying it in a different browser this time. It’s something I
usually do.. That’s a very good idea.
Thank you all.
> 20 Ιαν 2022, 1:02 πμ, ο χρήστης «'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> » έγραψε:
>
>
>> On 19/1/22 15:55, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> They use to tell
On 19/1/22 15:55, Anders Holmberg wrote:
They use to tell me to complain to the developers of the page.
They say there are standards for this.
So I don't think apple will do something to resolve this issue.
If the developers of the Web site aren't following the standards, it
isn't Apple's pro
hing with that. I visited the
> Classter.com web page. there I had to choose something on the pop-up menus
> and combo boxes, and neither VO space nor the return button worked.
> Thank you very much for your help. Have a good one!
>
>> 19 Ιαν 2022, 6:48 μμ, ο χρήστης «'Tim
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jan 19, 2022, at 10:09, Steve Z. wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> That’s what I thought. Apple should do something with that. I visited the
> Classter.com web page. there I had to choose something on the pop-up menus
> and combo boxes, and ne
buttons and pop-up menus in safari.
Hi team,
That’s what I thought. Apple should do something with that. I visited the
Classter.com web page. there I had to choose something on the pop-up menus and
combo boxes, and neither VO space nor the return button worked.
Thank you very much for your help
Hi team,
That’s what I thought. Apple should do something with that. I visited the
Classter.com web page. there I had to choose something on the pop-up menus and
combo boxes, and neither VO space nor the return button worked.
Thank you very much for your help. Have a good one!
> 19 Ιαν 2022
navigation to move through the radio button choices, then either VO-space or
just space to select the radio button.
Combo Boxes or Pop-up Menus: these are often handled in a similar manner.
Again, it depends on the method that the developer coded these elements, but
basically, try VO-space, then
Hi list,
Yesterday I was trying to fill out a application in Safari that included Radio
buttons, combo boxes and pop-up menus. Some things have lately changed and I
couldn’t activate them.
Could you tell me how this can be done? Any help is appreciated.
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Try simply double tapping on the button, if the results don’t immediately pop
up, try touching the screen or swiping to the end of the page.
The web site or app can be an issue depending on its accessibility.
> On Feb 6, 2021, at 02:49, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>
> How do you handle
How do you handle a pop-up button on the phone? seems like it used to be double
tap and hold but that isn't working for me now.
thanks.
Lorie
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Hi all
Is there a quick and easy way to dismiss pop up notifications when using vo. On
a mac
Thanks
Regards
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Is there a quick and easy way to dismiss pop up notifications when using vo. On
a mac
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FYI - Some email providers, such as Gmail, for example, require that you login
to your email account via the web, and go into your mail settings and turn on
either POP or IMAP access. I am pretty sure that Gmail only lets you choose
one or the other to be active at any given time.
Once you
Hello,
The problem I am running into is that it never gives me the option to choose.
It automatically chooses pop without asking. For some reason when the account
is configured as pop its not downloading any new messages just old ones. I
guess I will log into the account on the web and see if
Mac.
HTH.
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On Dec 22, 2019, at 11:24, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello all,
I am having an issue setting one of my mail accounts as imap rather than pop. I
create the account but no
Hello all,
I am having an issue setting one of my mail accounts as imap rather than pop. I
create the account but no where does it let me select whether it is imap or
pop. It just automatically sets it as pop. Does anyone know how I might change
this?
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Hi One&All,
Here’s one for the erudite apple users, I think.
1. I tried to set up a “POP” account in the “apple mail” program, and after
completing the set up, it tells me the account already exists, and there can
only be one “POP” account on the computer.
If I then go to the “Mail
lp me.
> When I’m browsing Amazon on my Mac, a web dialog window opens showing the
> rating for the item.
> everytime I press the close link, or press escape, the window reopens.
> Safari is set to block pop ups.
> I don’t know what to do!
> I was trying to read about the Amazon
Dear list,
I hope that someone can help me.
When I’m browsing Amazon on my Mac, a web dialog window opens showing the
rating for the item.
everytime I press the close link, or press escape, the window reopens.
Safari is set to block pop ups.
I don’t know what to do!
I was trying to read about
Guys, this is so freaking cool! Often times, I'll go into a public venue, and
I'll be trying to use Swarm to check in on 4Square. The family whom I'm
normally with keep telling me I'm holding them up by me standing there trying
to check in. I have to go all the way into the app, hit the check
Hopefully, you can find what I'm talking about in my initial thread.
Chris.
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Subject: Re: Question about Pick and Pop
I haven’t tried much wit
out pick and pop, and the issues
> I'm having with the Messages app, in particular with the custom responses,
> etc?
>
> I'd be very! curious to know if you, or anyone else know what's going on.
>
> Also on the other note, again, with my braille input
Hey Scott. Did you see my other question about pick and pop, and the issues
I'm having with the Messages app, in particular with the custom responses, etc?
I'd be very! curious to know if you, or anyone else know what's going on.
Also on the other note, again, with my braille i
Oct 8, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, after I listenned to Jonathan's demo on pick and pop, I saw that about
> not needing to double tap. That probably explains why sometimes it's not
> been the most reliable.
>
> Chris.
>
&g
7;m
just not consistently understanding what is triggerring that responses list to
pop up. I'm even finding sometimes, if I try to pop my way all the way into
the message thread, sometimes even then! I'm getting these predefined responses.
Can someone guess what I might be actua
Yeah, after I listenned to Jonathan's demo on pick and pop, I saw that about
not needing to double tap. That probably explains why sometimes it's not been
the most reliable.
Chris.
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Chris,
You don’t need to double tap and hold, you just need to press on the screen.
Peak and pop are meant for things like emails, messages, it works in some
twitter apps like Tweetings, things like that.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> Guys
Guys,
Just today, I got me the new IPhone 6S. I am freaking loving this thing!
I do have a question regarding pick and pop. I'm seeing that a lot of the
native IPhone apps support this from the home screen. I'm not sure while
inside an app what abilities I have, I.E, in Safari
No, I tried that. Thanks though. :)
On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
> Does it come up as a new window in Safari? You could check in the window
> chooser.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 14:46, Christina C. wrote:
>>
>>
Does it come up as a new window in Safari? You could check in the window
chooser.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 9, 2014, at 14:46, Christina C. wrote:
>
> How do I deal with or access pop ups that websites use either to get me to
> sign up for their newsletter, answer a survey que
How do I deal with or access pop ups that websites use either to get me to sign
up for their newsletter, answer a survey question, or to fill out forms for an
online purchase? I only know that they are there because something seems wonky
and doesn't' make sense when I am navigating
wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I've noticed lately that Safari isn't handling pop up buttons well sometimes.
> Last night, I couldn't change the currency type on the Paypal site. Can
> somebody else confirm they're having this issue too on that site?
> I focus on t
Hi folks,
I've noticed lately that Safari isn't handling pop up buttons well sometimes.
Last night, I couldn't change the currency type on the Paypal site. Can
somebody else confirm they're having this issue too on that site?
I focus on the currency button pop up button. I p
it in the first place. So I
went to my security settings, found the block pop-up's option, and found that
it was unchecked, but unchecking it seems to have done nothing, because they're
still coming up anyway, even thought I went back and double-checked to see that
my settings to
voice over spelling words it doesn't recognise [4 Updates]
> fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar [1 Update]
> working with automater [1 Update]
> adding webpages as favourites/bookmarks? and turning off auto correct when
> typing [2 Updates]
> Apple website pop-up
Hi Janine,
Sorry for typing errors on my iOS device. The shortcut keystroke for routing
your Mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor is VO-Command-F5. If your
navigation options in VoiceOver Utility are set to "Mouse Pointer Ignores
VoiceOver cursor", either try routing your Mouse cursor to yo
mmand-4 to Navigation, and navigate to
the pop up, which may be set to "Mouse pointer ignores VoiceOver cursor").
Then check whether you can navigate to the other menu options. Alternatively,
you may be able to get the menu options displayed without changing your
navigation settings
Thanks but no, not a group. I go to store, user tools, interact with that,
control option and right arrow until it says menu pop-up link, account.
Voiceover tells me to press control option space and after doing that it
activates the first link in the so-called pop-up menu, instead of showing me
voiceover told me “link,pop-up menu”. When I hit control option space, as
> voiceover instructed, it activated the link for the first item of that menu,
> which was something about check order status. Do you know how I can access
> the rest of the items in the menu without it goi
Hi
I am trying to use the Mac to access my account settings on the Apple
website. I went to the store page and found the account option which
voiceover told me "link,pop-up menu". When I hit control option space, as
voiceover instructed, it activated the link for the first item of
Yes, delete the Gmail account on your computer, and no you do not need
to disable imap. So long as pop is enabled it should work. Also I
suggestin using the other option when adding a new account. It would
seem that if you add a Google or Gmail account then it will set it up as
what I believe
So, to change the selection of the account type for my gmail account from imap
to pop, I have to delete my account and start over?
I don’t see a check box or anything to switch this out in mail preferences.
also, do I have to go to the web site and disable imap?
thanks!
Cait
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Hi Edward,
Thanks. I was ever so sure that I had, in fact, turned qn off prior to
attempting to use first letter nav in the pop up menu. But I must not have,
because I just did it again, after seeing your note, and it worked as it should
on the amazon site. I do think it would be nice if the qn
Hi Mary,
Once you've activated the pop up menu, press left and right arrows together to
turn quicknav off. First letter navigation should work now, I've just tried it
on Amazon.
Cheers,
Ed
On 5 Oct 2013, at 01:48, Mary Otten wrote:
> I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion.
PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion. I moved from Snow Leopard to Mountain
Lion. I also still use Windows, so maybe my Windows stuff is getting in the way
here. I thought I remembered that, when you activate a menu with a pop up
button, those are combo boxes in Windows
I have a new Mac mini with Mountain Lion. I moved from Snow Leopard to Mountain
Lion. I also still use Windows, so maybe my Windows stuff is getting in the way
here. I thought I remembered that, when you activate a menu with a pop up
button, those are combo boxes in Windows, you could do first
A button is just something you select, such as ok or cancel. A pop up
button usually opens a menu of choices, much like a drop list in windows.
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hi. could someone tell me, what is the difference between a button and
a pop-up button?
thanks.
Vivianna
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Hi Vivianna,
A button is a single control such as the Send button on a form. A Pop-Up
button or pop-up menu is a menu which you can activate with VO-Spacebar. Once
the pop-up is open, use VO and the up or down arrow keys to review what's in
the menu. Then make your selection wi
ell me, what is the difference between a button and a
> pop-up button?
> thanks.
>
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I am trying to sign up and create a profile on a site, and everything else on
the site, including an accessible capcha, is fine, but the pop-ups aren't
working. Each one is saying "pop-up" but when I try to use them, nothing is
being read. Any ideas?
Christine
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Doesn't cmd tab work?
Gena
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Ah; so that's where new kitty hid it. Thanks.
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Its now in Safari preferences under security.
hth
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter
wrote:
> Formerly, before upgrading to Mountain Lion, Command Shift K blocked and
> unblocked
Formerly, before upgrading to Mountain Lion, Command Shift K blocked and
unblocked popup windows. Now, I can't even find popup blocking as a choice in
menus or preferences. What's up with this, or am I just having a brain malf?
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Mission Controls' preferences are in System Preferences under Apple. I don't
see a way to disable it, but maybe you can identify what command, or keyboard
shortcut, it is that you're hitting that's making it pop up?
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Christine, it's because the command to get into Mission control is
control-down-arrow. All it takes is to hit the control key to shut up
speech, then hit the down-arrow a little too soon and there you are.
Mission control is supposed to be a place where you can look at all of
the different appl
This is happening a few times a day, in Mail, in Safari, while searching in
Spotlight, while in the Finder, and so on. There's the Swish noise, and there
it is, and I have to get out of it, or nothing works right. Very, very odd. I
feel like it's jumping out and saying "Boo!" or "You're it!"
Chr
otherwise the Install will not activate.
>
> HTH.
>
> Later...
>
> On 2012-05-06, at 12:26 PM, Rod Skene wrote:
>
>> When the pop-up update appears, I can tab to the install button but I can't
>> activate it. Does anyone know how to activate the install button?
Siply press your spacebar when focus is on the Install button. Do not use the
VO keys with this action. Also, ensure that you've checked the box to agree
with the Terms otherwise the Install will not activate.
HTH.
Later...
On 2012-05-06, at 12:26 PM, Rod Skene wrote:
> When th
When the pop-up update appears, I can tab to the install button but I can't
activate it. Does anyone know how to activate the install button? Thanks, Rod
Sent from my iPhone
On May 6, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Not necessarily the correct conclusion. The pop-up co
Not necessarily the correct conclusion. The pop-up could be a malware attempt
to infect your system.
I suggest you go to Adobe's site and do the install from there.
Later...
On 2012-05-06, at 8:37 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> Hi.
>
> mmm i think it's installed because i ge
5/2012, at 12:35 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If Flash Player is already installed, there will be an item in your System
> Preferences called "Flash Player". This is where you can do the update if
> you are uncomfortable with the automatic and possibly proble
Hi,
If Flash Player is already installed, there will be an item in your System
Preferences called "Flash Player". This is where you can do the update if you
are uncomfortable with the automatic and possibly problematic pop-up version.
Later...
On 2012-05-06, at 8:15 AM, Maria Cha
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> On 07/05/2012, at 12:15 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>
>> Hi. where is the flash pannel in system preferences? i sometimes get an
&g
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On 07/05/2012, at 12:15 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> Hi. where is the flash pannel in system preferences? i sometimes get an
> update flash player pop up and can't seem to figure out how to get it to
> install.
>
> thanks
>
> God Bless! Maria fr
Hi. where is the flash pannel in system preferences? i sometimes get an
update flash player pop up and can't seem to figure out how to get it to
install.
thanks
God Bless! Maria from australia
Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email & iImessage.
Thanks Tim. Got it.
Regards
Gigi
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On May 5, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If your Church uses Flash, then it wouldn't work if you uninstalled it. For
> updating, you could either go to the Adobe site or, in your System
> Preferences, go to the Flash pane
And you could always encourage them to explore making the switch to html5 which
would allow even more folks access. Then people using devices such as the
iPhone and iPad could listen.
On May 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If your Church uses Flash, then it wouldn't work if
Hi,
If your Church uses Flash, then it wouldn't work if you uninstalled it. For
updating, you could either go to the Adobe site or, in your System Preferences,
go to the Flash panel and update it from there. Just remember that the update
process isn't very accessible anyway. I just use the t
Hi Guys.
I do have a question, however. I think was talked about earlier, but I think I
was too dumb to understand the answer. At least one site I go to uses flash, my
church site that I sometimes access to watch services when I can't go myself.
Although I can't control the volume and pause, etc
Ah, thanks for the info.
Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> Yes, uninstall flash. It is a waste of it doesn't work for us. Also, security
> researchers claim it as a number two cars of viruses.
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
> On May 4, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>
Yes, uninstall flash. It is a waste of it doesn't work for us. Also, security
researchers claim it as a number two cars of viruses.
Jonathan Cohn
On May 4, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to find out if there is a way that you can make the Adobi Flash
> Player i
thanks, I got it to start installing, and then it got stuck so I had to force
quit it anyway.
Jenny
On May 5, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You'd never really wish anything to install automatically. That's exactly
> how viruses and such would infect your computer. Part of th
Hi,
You'd never really wish anything to install automatically. That's exactly how
viruses and such would infect your computer. Part of the safety and security
is the process of asking.
Later...
On 2012-05-04, at 5:56 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to find out if there is a
Hi,
I would like to find out if there is a way that you can make the Adobi Flash
Player install the updates by themselves instead of bugging me about it
constantly?
Hope so cause it gets rather old.
Jenny
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As I understand it, A T & T uVerse does not offer iMap.
Mark
On Apr 7, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking of setting up my AT&T U-verse as a imap rather than a pop
> account so that I can keep messages on the server even after ch
Hi,
You shouldn't need to switch to IMAP just to do that. Actually, I think pop
accounts do this by default.
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On Apr 7, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking
Hi,
I'm thinking of setting up my AT&T U-verse as a imap rather than a pop account
so that I can keep messages on the server even after checking my e-mail on my
Iphone. I guess the first question is this.
1. do I really need to set up AT&T U-verse as an imap rather than a pop
s and mobile stuff, that way once I read in one it
shows read in all of them.
If she had already downloaded the message to the pop account, then deleting
them in the server would not matter, but if she does before downloading on the
pop account, then the outlook would not be able to retrieve
On my wife's Gmail account on her netbook we have it set to download messages
using pop. Do I need to do anything different to get her email to also download
onto her iPhone 4s? I don't want to do anything to mess up her using her
Microsoft outlook on her netbook to do her email I ju
Hi,
What you have to do to get Gmail to go to Pop is go to the Gmail
website and log in, then go to your Settings menu. After that,
you go to Pop/Forwarding and Imap. From there, you should be
able to read the settings and change the ones you want.
Hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Jasmine
I'm having this same problem. I don't use web based email at all, so how would
I go about telling gmail that I want to use
pop instead of Imap? I'm trying to get a brand new clean lion install up and
running, and so far, I honestly don't think it
was worth the trouble. Ove
t ow to get the mouse cursor to it. He explained
> that there was a pop up that came up when the mouse or VO cursor was on the
> link for kind of session. Can anyone help with this kind of pop up.
>
> Thanks
> Garth
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I have just tried this and can't seem to see any difference. I was able to get
the pop up to appear when with the trainer, not sure at the moment of course,
but the issue was then with getting the insertion point to the pop up. The
trainer advised me that it just seemed to ignore the p
ther of us could work out ow to get the mouse cursor to it. He explained
> that there was a pop up that came up when the mouse or VO cursor was on the
> link for kind of session. Can anyone help with this kind of pop up.
>
> Thanks
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us could work out ow to get the mouse cursor to it. He explained that there was
a pop up that came up when the mouse or VO cursor was on the link for kind of
session. Can anyone help with this kind of pop up.
Thanks
Garth
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Greetings,
I currently have a gmail POP account but I'd like to change it to a IMAP
account so my iPhone, and mac reflect the same e-mails and such. I never use
gmail's online version to check my e-mail. However, I went online through
safari and noticed my current gmail has 23,000
The POP port is 995 and the SMTP port is 465.
Ezzie
- Original Message -
From: "Missy Hoppe" Hi! I think you might want to doublecheck the port number. I
can't remember, but I think the default is 993 and it needs to
be 995, or perhaps it's the other way around.
0:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pop and gmail?
Hello
this setting is already active. I'm wanting to permanently download my emails
to the mac, but pop won't work, and I am trying
to figure out why. Thanks for any help you all can give, Chris Harrington On
Aug
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