Really, it's a judgement call. If you press delete on a thread, all of the
messages in it are deleted. I might be more likely at times to read a thread
that has more than one message in it. Also, there are times when I want to find
out if someone has answered a question on the list. I don't want
Yes seems to work very well on my Macbook Pro 2012 model.
On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:13, Portia Scott wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster
> when going through my applications folder on my MacBook Pro 09 model. It used
> to be slow goi
I get this too. Will try interacting with the text with vo j.
On 26 Feb 2014, at 14:41, Nicholas Parsons
wrote:
> The chatter I get is the word "imbedded", the sender's name and email
> address, then the word "imbedded" repeated twice.
>
> --
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Have
you tried pressing vo j or control option j to interact with the text of the
message?On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Nicholas Parsons
wrote:
> The chatter I get is the word "imbedded", the sender's name and email
> address, then the word "imbedded" repeated twice.
>
> --
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The chatter I get is the word "imbedded", the sender's name and email address,
then the word "imbedded" repeated twice.
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My way of reading messages in a thread is to hit return when I hear the subject
and backspace to delete each one, no interacting, no nothing. I never interact
in mail apart from when I move to the folder list, which I have shown, with
shift-tab
Cheers
Dave
On 26 Feb 2014, at 11:41, Nicholas Pa
The only problem I am having is making FaceTime audio calls other then that the
update process was a smooth and successful process.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster
> when going throug
Hello all,
I installed the update last night and it is really awesome. I find it faster
when going through my applications folder on my MacBook Pro 09 model. It used
to be slow going through it with quick nag on, but not anymore.
Have a great day, and smile on.
Regards,
Portia.
On Feb 25, 201
I have updated last night and the update works great.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Jessica wrote:
> I have n
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:40 AM,not heard any of the extra stuff either.Daniel
>> McGee wrote:
>>
>> cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not the
I have n
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:40 AM,not heard any of the extra stuff either.Daniel
> McGee wrote:
>
> cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not then sometime tomorrow.
> Looking forward to seeing how the new update works/performs. on my late 2011
> 13 inch Mac
Oh that's disappointing to hear.
Alex, just saw your message after I sent mine. So wasn't this happening before
Mavericks then?
Daniel
On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:37, Alex Hall wrote:
> I have. I opened a two-message conversation, stopped interacting once, and
> arrowed. VO read the sender, clicke
cool, will be updating later tonight then or if not then sometime tomorrow.
Looking forward to seeing how the new update works/performs. on my late 2011 13
inch Mac Book Pro.
On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:12, isaac wrote:
> I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new
>
I have. I opened a two-message conversation, stopped interacting once, and
arrowed. VO read the sender, clicked five times, and only then read the
message, just as it has done since the first version of Mavericks.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, isaac wrote:
> I haven't heard voiceover give that e
I haven't heard voiceover give that extra chatter since I updated to the new
version of mavericks.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing.
> Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the
> messages in
Nic and all who use this method of conversation viewing.
Once you've opened the message and use the VO keys to move through the messages
in this latest update do you get the extra chatter from Voiceover where it will
mention stuff like the email address the subject line again and other stuff I
c
The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have
already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally
skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the
conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that n
So how does one read a four message conversation as I have it in standard view
as I opened a message in mail, and tabbed, but although other messages were
there, nothing happened.
Kawal.
> On 26 Feb 2014, at 10:22 am, Krister Ekstrom
> wrote:
>
> I will probably get flamed for saying this, b
I will probably get flamed for saying this, but i don't understand why it's so
important to have conversation count first? I have to listen to the subject and
other stuff in order to deem it interesting or uninteresting anyway so what
does it matter where the conversation count is?
What is it th
Great. I will use web spots then.
> On 25 Feb 2014, at 11:54 pm, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Oh my God, I am so happy as Apple finally fixed the direction of web spots in
> safari. Yes, this was a minor issue but an odd one that always through me.
> Once again clicking VO command r
Hey Alex. You’re right about the whole numbers thing. I just read your sentence
with Samantha and she’s doing the same thing. Odd that they’d revert back to
the behavior that was in older OS’s.
Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
On Feb 25, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> I wish they'd let
Hey all,
Oh my God, I am so happy as Apple finally fixed the direction of web spots in
safari. Yes, this was a minor issue but an odd one that always through me. Once
again clicking VO command right bracket takes you down a page and clicking VO
command left bracket takes you up the page to the
Hey Alex and all,
Just got the updated installed, so haven't had a ton of time to play around
with it, but I am noticing that mail is running pretty smoothly and messages
are opening very well. Of course the only program I have running is mail so we
shall see as I open other programs. Going to
Hey Alex,
Thanks, just saw it is here, just want to read through some emails to see if
anyone has any comments on it before updating. Thanks, keeping my fingers
crossed this will fix my or at least some of my issues, hey how funny as I
switched over to me.com curious to see if gmail works again
I don't either. If I said "sort", I misspoke; I'd like to select which ones are
spoken, and in what order. For instance, my ideal setup is:
read status, subject, message count, attachments, sender, message preview
On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Well, you can sort columns ma
Well, you can sort columns manually in classic view. You use the
VO-shift-backslash method. I don’t use that view, however.
Teresa
“Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman
On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> I wish they'd let us sort the head
I wish they'd let us sort the header fields manually, but I do like having the
conversation count back.
On another note, has anyone to iced, at least with the Ava voice, that words
are turning into numbers? Read this sentence with Ava, as long as you're using
10.9.2:
The word to (t o) in this s
I'm just downloading my update now.
> On 25 Feb 2014, at 09:46 pm, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
> For those fighting with gmail in Apple Mail, there are these bits:
>
> Improves compatibility with Gmail Archive mailboxes
> Includes improvements to Gmail labels
> Includes general improvements to the st
For those fighting with gmail in Apple Mail, there are these bits:
Improves compatibility with Gmail Archive mailboxes
Includes improvements to Gmail labels
Includes general improvements to the stability and compatibility of Mail
CB
On 2/25/14 2:57 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
There was a link
I couldn't agree more, Mail is my friend again
On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:42, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> It's wonderful to see that in Mail, the conversation count is at the
> beginning again. I am still having the same VO-J inconsistencies in Mail but
> we're making progress.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen
Mine took 2 minutes to download and another 10 to install lol
On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:43, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Yeah, it's a 400-meg download, so I'd suggest putting it on AC. It took me
> about an hour to download and install.
>
> HtH,
> Teresa
>
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>
> On
It does for sure. Mine said 460 mb.
On 25 Feb 2014, at 20:12, Daniel McGee wrote:
> Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file
> size is?
> Does it tell you before the update?
> On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:48, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
>> LOL more's the point. I wasn'
I'd say that it tok me just about ten minutes to load and install. Then again,
I didn't time it exactly. Considering my connection speed is up to 105MB over
here.
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, st
Same here. About 10 minutes to download, about 10 to install.
On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:55, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I must be lucky today. It only took 10 minutes to download the update and
> another 10 to install. I, too, noted in the more detailed update notes that
> there were fixes for
Yes, it is in the progress bar. One thing I notice right away is that apps
tend to open a little more snappy than before, even on start up. Also, when
you come across a conversation in mail, (assuming you have mail set up to
display messages by conversation) the conversation message count is g
I think it does, but I noticed it in the progress bar as I was updating.
Teresa
"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman
On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Daniel McGee
wrote:
> Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file
>
Haven't performed the update yet myself but how do you know how big the file
size is?
Does it tell you before the update?
On 25 Feb 2014, at 19:48, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> LOL more's the point. I wasn't paying exact attention to the download size,
> obviously. :)
>
> teresa
>
> "The golden ag
I just updated to OS 10.9.2.
On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Hi all,
> OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other
> small fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover
> fixes. We'll see what those are in the coming days. B
Hi,
There was a link in the info about the update that you could activate. Here it
is in case you're unable to locate anything:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6114?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 25, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Hi,
I must be lucky today. It only took 10 minutes to download the update and
another 10 to install. I, too, noted in the more detailed update notes that
there were fixes for some Braille displays, so, hopefully, this helps many of
you. I don't use any Braille so can't comment on it's improv
Where can you find the Voiceover-specific release notes? I only found a
reference to "some Voiceover improvements".
Thanks,
Teresa
On the other hand, there are different fingers.
On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> I don't use braille much, but one note in the update said they fi
Hi,
Normally, you can still update on battery. Apple just recommends that you have
it plugged in in case it dies in the middle of the update. If you're above 50%
and have a battery that's in good shape, then you'll be fine. The only updates
that specifically require the power be plugged in i
LOL more's the point. I wasn't paying exact attention to the download size,
obviously. :)
teresa
"The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> Try 769MB, lol. Either way, yes, putting it on AC is a good idea.
--
You received
Hi there
I am sorry that you are continuing to have issues with your braille display,
but mine got fixed a long time ago before this update. However I am writing
this to let you guys know a little park that doesn't matter too much but it
might give you a bad moment first. After you've finished t
Oh, yes, the number of messages in the left column is a wonderful fix.
I noticed I had to sign into iCloud, but it set up without a hitch. It also
wants to do the mail upgrade. I'm glad I switched to iCloud from Gmail, or it
might have taken Mail longer to do its thing.
Teresa
"We're made of s
I don't use braille much, but one note in the update said they fixed some
Handytech displays, among other Voiceover fixes. Hopefully your display is
among the fixed.
On Feb 25, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
> just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come
>
Try 769MB, lol. Either way, yes, putting it on AC is a good idea.
On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Yeah, it's a 400-meg download, so I'd suggest putting it on AC. It took me
> about an hour to download and install.
>
> HtH,
> Teresa
>
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
Can you explain the issues?
On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
> just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come
> out the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille
> displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I
Yeah, it's a 400-meg download, so I'd suggest putting it on AC. It took me
about an hour to download and install.
HtH,
Teresa
Slow down; you'll get there faster.
On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:13 AM, christopher hallsworth
wrote:
> Thanks for letting us know. Will probably update the next time I put
It's wonderful to see that in Mail, the conversation count is at the beginning
again. I am still having the same VO-J inconsistencies in Mail but we're making
progress.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 26/02/2014, at 8:13 am,
just realized I'm dictating this to the phone so some of it might not come out
the way that it should. I hope this fixes the problem that some braille
displays are having a when trying to use Bluetooth. But I guess not? Maybe
sometime in my lifetime or sometime in the near future Apple will fix
Thanks for letting us know. Will probably update the next time I put my mac on
charge. It's currently on battery power. Unless you know different I won't be
able to update on battery power. Right?
On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:38, Alex Hall wrote:
> Hi all,
> OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari,
Hi all,
OS10.9.2 is here! Aside from Mail, Safari, security, FaceTime, and other small
fixes and improvements, the release notes specifically state Voiceover fixes.
We'll see what those are in the coming days. Brian, I hope this fixes some of
your problems so you don't need the clean install.
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