Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-17 Thread Eric Oyen
given that, it may appear that nokia might be on the losing end of this argument. I sent a brief note off to nokia telling them that their actions are jeopardizing accessibility for millions of visually impaired users of mobile phone technology. all I have seen back thus far has been a form lett

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-17 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, Apple had touch and pen screens way before the IPhone. Early in the 90S or late in the 80s Apple had the Newton. Far before that, around 1983 or so Apple had the Lisa which was a full sized computer with touch display. Thanks Scott On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Andy Lane wrote:

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-17 Thread Scott Granados
Don't worry, the legal actions are nothing compared to what we'll do to innovation ourselves as a community. Lawyers are the leased of the problems. On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > except that the lawsuits will only serve to chill any innovation and possibly > delay or deny tec

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-17 Thread Scott Granados
Last time I checked, lawyers spend money in their communities. It's easy to pick on lawyers and I do this as well but I also have a good one who has saved my bacon more than once so you know don't generalize. I think your point is well taken though. On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Eric Oyen wro

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-17 Thread Scott Granados
Unfortunately, haterade is free and widely available. I always tell myself though if the haters are after you that means you're doing it right! On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Huh, now that is a good one-haterade. So, that explains a lot and I guess I > can purchase some of

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Andy Lane
Hey everyone, I don't have time to read the article right now but I will later, I have a few thoughts about this situation though, Nokia have been developing mobile equipment for the last 16 or so years, apple have been in the business for 3. it seems to me that if Apple are such newcomers they wo

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
and that's what has me a bit scared whenI summarized the article that' what I meant. Take care and happy holidays. On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > except that the lawsuits will only serve to chill any innovation and possibly > delay or deny technology to those of us in need of i

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Oyen
except that the lawsuits will only serve to chill any innovation and possibly delay or deny technology to those of us in need of it more than anyone else. -Eric On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well I guess we'll see wht happens. I doubt anything will come of it though. > >

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Oyen
such as: hiring people to create new products or spending money and resources toward a greater good and less toward lawyers trying to make money as patent trolls. I can think of several ways that could make my life (and that of every other blind person) a lot easier. -Eric On Dec 16, 2010, at

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Oyen
I seriously think that Heinlein was right in his opinion: let us hang all the lawyers. -Eric On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Eric, > > Apple is probably one of the companies facing more law suits than any other. > Of course if Apple was not having the success and the availab

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol, I couldn't agree with you more Scott. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Eric, > > Apple is probably one of the companies facing more law suits than any other. > Of cour

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
Well I guess we'll see wht happens. I doubt anything will come of it though. Take care and have a happy holidays wiht your apple products! S On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > It's called Haterade! > > > THe better you do the more haters there are. > > On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:0

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Howell
Huh, now that is a good one-haterade. So, that explains a lot and I guess I can purchase some of that at my local law office? :) Scott On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > It's called Haterade! > > > THe better you do the more haters there are. -- You received this messag

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Granados
It's called Haterade! THe better you do the more haters there are. On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Eric, > > Apple is probably one of the companies facing more law suits than any other. > Of course if Apple was not having the success and the available cash, they > would no

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Granados
Like? On Dec 16, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > I really wish they'd cut out all the nonsense. we've got better things we > could be doing. > > -Eric > > On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Will these suits if they go through make touch screens harder to use? read >

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Howell
Eric, Apple is probably one of the companies facing more law suits than any other. Of course if Apple was not having the success and the available cash, they would not be facing all these suits. The game is sue everyone and hey even some companies have dropped developing products just to spend

Re: Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Oyen
I really wish they'd cut out all the nonsense. we've got better things we could be doing. -Eric On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Will these suits if they go through make touch screens harder to use? read > more: http://goo.gl/yZ0TQ > > > -- > You received this message bec

Nokia Expands Patent Claims Against Apple With New European Lawsuits

2010-12-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
Will these suits if they go through make touch screens harder to use? read more: http://goo.gl/yZ0TQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from thi