given that, it may appear that nokia might be on the losing end of this 
argument. I sent a brief note off to nokia telling them that their actions are 
jeopardizing accessibility for millions of visually impaired users of mobile 
phone technology. all I have seen back thus far has been a form letter response.

-Eric

On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Actually, Apple had touch and pen screens way before the IPhone.
> 
> Early in the 90S or late in the 80s Apple had the Newton.
> Far before that, around 1983 or so Apple had the Lisa which was a full sized 
> computer with touch display.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Andy Lane wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone, I don't have time to read the article right now but I
>> will later, I have a few thoughts about this situation though, Nokia
>> have been developing mobile equipment for the last 16 or so years,
>> apple have been in the business for 3.  it seems to me that if Apple
>> are such newcomers they would be hard pressed to make a platform
>> without building on existing technologies already pioneered by apple.
>> Let us not forget that Nokia have dominated innovation on mobile
>> technologies for their entire existence.  Everything you see in the
>> iPhone came first to Nokia other than a few interaction methods and
>> the app store.  The difference is that Apple make things nice to use
>> and nokia make it feel like a weekend project.  Obviously apple have
>> voiceover too which is enormous for us however purely from a
>> technological point of view I struggle to understand how apple can
>> make a phone which clearly uses existing technologies and therefore
>> patents without paying royalties.  I agree that it is wrong to sue
>> people over money etc but maybe nokia and others have ligitimate
>> complaints.  The only thing that is certain though is the lawyers get
>> richer than anyone else out of this.  I'm just saying if apple have
>> had to borrow on progress made by Nokia, samsung, Sony/ericson etc.
>> maybe they should pay for what they have benefitted from.
>> 
>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> Will these suits if they go through make touch screens harder to use? read 
>>> more: http://goo.gl/yZ0TQ
>> 
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