Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, VO-c will read the column header. I think that the limitation is with the specification of the header row. If I'm not mistaken, your header rows must be the top most rows. So, rows one through five can be designated as header rows, but not individually. That is, if you have one header r

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
Okay, this is strange. So, I have 8 columns that should be spoken as I navigate through the rows of. The columns start around from A7 to H7. When I set Column header, in the “table” formatter tab, it just sets row 1 and up as the header. Maybe this isn’t what I’m looking for? I just want Voiceov

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Dave, Within a given spreadsheet, you can have numerous sheets, and within each sheet, you can have any number of tables. You normally just have one table, but if you like to get complicated, you can have more. I set up one for a curriculum alignment sheet that had three worksheets, each w

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Devin, As long as you've designated the row or column as a Header Row or Header Column, just press VO-r or VO-c to hear the titles for the rows and/or columns. You designate these under the Table menu in the MenuBar. If you have one row at the top that you wish to be the Header Row, then s

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim and Phil, I think I need just a bit more “under the hood” definition. You both say that Numbers uses a group or collection of tables with headers, whereas Excel does not. I am having a problem (typical engineer that I am) wrapping my head around what you mean by this group or collection. I e

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
Is there a way to read headers in Numbers? I have a time sheet, with Date Clock inClock out Clock inClock out time worked That kind of thing, and going back up to the header column is really tedious. > On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:46 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Dave, I get it now. The problem arises from the way that Excel is laid out compared to Numbers. Notice that the Column headings such as A, B, C etc are handled differently in Excel and Numbers. In Excel, you can move one row up and read the cell reference letters pertaining to the column

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, You may have already caught the underlying problem: It not the lack of the Column/Row coordinates, it’s that the top row and leftmost column cannot be set up to speak as I navigate the spreadsheet. My large financial sheets elude my brain’s ability to remember just what each row means, or

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread Dave Carlson
Phil, While not the answer I wanted, it was not unexpected. But your experiences being exactly the same as mine give me more encouragement to go back and start working harder with the Numbers app. Except for not being able to quickly jump across large blank areas, having the row and column heade

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Not sure what settings are "negatively" affecting your Mac. Sorry for the pun, I couldn't resist. Anyway, if I use arrow or tab navigation in Excel, the cell reference is announced. That is, VO will say "23.5, E7". I can also press VO-r or VO-c to have VO announce the row or column that

Re: Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-16 Thread Phil Halton
I think one problem may be that you’re still thinking in terms of jaws and windows whilst working on a Mac. When I first transitioned to the Mac someone told me to just forget about jaws and work with vo because they are two different systems and you can’t transfer functionality of one over to t

Getting Row and Column Headers to Speak in Excel

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
I’m spending a large amount of time re-acquainting myself with Excel on the Mac. It’s my preference because I can very quickly leap from one set of data to another, skipping over all the blanks. Numbers does not offer this. Okay, I’ve resolved the negative numbers issue by using Tom as my voice,