Okay, this is strange. So, I have 8 columns that should be spoken as I navigate through the rows of. The columns start around from A7 to H7. When I set Column header, in the “table” formatter tab, it just sets row 1 and up as the header. Maybe this isn’t what I’m looking for? I just want Voiceover to speak the headers as I move through them, like NVDA does with Insert+Shift+C for column titles.
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 11:24 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Devin, > > As long as you've designated the row or column as a Header Row or Header > Column, just press VO-r or VO-c to hear the titles for the rows and/or > columns. You designate these under the Table menu in the MenuBar. If you > have one row at the top that you wish to be the Header Row, then select "1" > from the sub-menu. If header rows or columns are not designated, Numbers > will simply tell you the cell reference column letter or row number. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:12, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Is there a way to read headers in Numbers? I have a time sheet, with > Date Clock in Clock out Clock in Clock out time > worked > That kind of thing, and going back up to the header column is really tedious. > >> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:46 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> I get it now. The problem arises from the way that Excel is laid out >> compared to Numbers. Notice that the Column headings such as A, B, C etc >> are handled differently in Excel and Numbers. In Excel, you can move one >> row up and read the cell reference letters pertaining to the column headers. >> In Numbers, you need to use the VO-back slash command to access these >> column headers. This is an inherent difference in that Numbers presents the >> spreadsheet as. a grouping of tables each with column and row headers. This >> makes it easier to use the VO table commands to work within the Numbers app. >> Because Excel uses different formatting of the sheet itself, the normal VO >> table commands do not work as expected. Excel is an amazing spreadsheet >> app, and, essentially, is more powerful than Numbers, but from a VO >> prospective, is not as friendly. to the sighted user, these issues probably >> wouldn't present themselves, but to us, they are a barrier. I totally >> understand about wanting to know the title of the headers, but I'm thinking >> that, as you've aptly determined, this is more problematic in Excel than >> Numbers. >> >> Sorry I didn't find a solution for you. >> >> Best. >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Jamf Certified Associate >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Sep 16, 2019, at 08:46, Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net >> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: >> >> Tim, >> You may have already caught the underlying problem: It not the lack of the >> Column/Row coordinates, it’s that the top row and leftmost column cannot be >> set up to speak as I navigate the spreadsheet. 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