Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hi! You can. You can have them as demo for i think 14 days or so. Or is it 30 days. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 21:14 skrev Dave Carlson : > > Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for > investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that > voice l

RE: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

ac to much, As their voices like alex are so much nicer to work with. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Monday, 16 September 2019 2:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

I got your point and doubt you can trade. If I am not mistaken, you do have a trial period. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/15/2019 12:14 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: Not sure you got the point. I’

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that voice later and get a different one without shelling out another $14.99? Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hi! Fred is ok. Its t˛e only thing i can use in recovery mode. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 20:48 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products > either. The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind > computer users like that synth, i

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products either. The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind computer users like that synth, in the main stream world it is considered outdated and as far as I know there is no further cdevelopment being done with

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Choose more than one Infovox voice if you like them, buy the credits for however many you want, then you can use the speech rotor to change on the fly. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/15/2019

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

E.T., A question on these voices. I see that a single credit is US$14.99. So one credit allows me to download one voice. I get that. But if I wanted to change to another of their voices, can I trade in the one I don’w want in exchange for another, or do I need to buy another credit? Dave Carlso

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

I cann't stand alex either, I use tom because it is to my ear more crisp and succinct and having fewer distracting artifacts of trying to make it sound like a person. On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Dave, > > I presume you???ve tried all the other English-language voices av

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

It is not often i agree with Anders, but i have too this time , Fred is workable, light memoeryvise, and can speak super fast Sent from my iPad > On 15 Sep 2019, at 19.43, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Fred is a good or ok alternative. > /A > >> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten : >>

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hi! Fred is a good or ok alternative. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten : > > If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that > you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have > purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a great

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

The wisdom that children can give us... :) Just like the other voices, you can change them on the fly. Infovox voices will be in the same list on the speech rotor. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hello, You could try Lee the male Australian voice or one of the UK english male voices. Greg Wocher > On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Hello Ann, > Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and > Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom.

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

I will go one better, just for fun. What happened to the dec talk voices? Given those were first created to simulate human speech, I thought they would be preserved on a platform somewhere. I resonate with Mary's thoughts on eloquence, respecting that some seek the familiar. Karen On S

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hello Ann, Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom. My quest for a voice that I can live with, and for now one that I don’t need to purchase, goes on... Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker,

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Hello Dave, I presume you’ve tried all the other English-language voices available to download from Apple? I can’t stand Alex but I use good old Fred most of the time. I also use Fiona as my system voice. In English, we have a huge choice of voices. I’m much more limited when it comes to French

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children’s voices are so realistic, but I don’t think I’d want to have one for all the time. Thanks for passing this along. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Dave, Report it. And meanwhile, check out Infovox. They have voices which you can listen to samples of. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/1

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a greater selection available for systemwide usage. And should that happen, if somebody decided someh

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Mary, Okay, thought I’d ask. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a membe

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine why, but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > J

A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to use for VO? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns ab

Re: For Alex

Alex, well stated. The right tool for the job and all that. Some are forced in to a platform as well because that industry has adopted it exclusively. Insurance is one that is almost exclusively windows. One may have no choice but to work in a windows environment. As in most things there ar

Re: For Alex

Alex, Very evenly said. For me, the best thing about Apple is how well integrated everything is, the accessibility, and also the much easier process of updates for native apps as well as for apps purchased from the app store. I could go on. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone i

Re: For Alex

01 PM Subject: Re: For Alex I certainly took no offense, and I hope no one else did either. The way I see it, there are bugs in everything, and quite often, what people find problematic depends on their specific needs. For example, I need access to Windows at work, and I have a very hard

Re: For Alex

I certainly took no offense, and I hope no one else did either. The way I see it, there are bugs in everything, and quite often, what people find problematic depends on their specific needs. For example, I need access to Windows at work, and I have a very hard time debugging webpages. I also fi

Re: For Alex

Have not been using the Mac that long but much prefer it over Windows which is a nightmare (I have been using Windows since 95). Certainly there are things we don't need to have to work around in OS X. Its frustrating to be sure. I have not yet made a clean break from Windows, been a hab

For Alex

Let me assure you Alex, and the other fine folks on this list, that no insult was intended. In fact, I find the vast majority of people extremely helpful and highly knowledgeable about all aspects of computing, and especially on the topic of Voiceover. Regarding NVDA, it must be remembered that th

Re: For Alex Installing the Milonese loop band

Thanks! Got it! Love the band. > On Apr 8, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I'm assuming it's similar to the one I got. I hope it is. > > The band is a single piece, unlike the rubber Sport band the Watch comes > with. Once installed, the side with the metal opening through which the ban

Re: For Alex Installing the Milonese loop band

I'm assuming it's similar to the one I got. I hope it is. The band is a single piece, unlike the rubber Sport band the Watch comes with. Once installed, the side with the metal opening through which the band slides will be closer to the Friends button, while the side that can't move is nearer t

For Alex Installing the Milonese loop band

Hi guys, especially Alex, how do you install the milonese loop band we bought off Amazon? What is that little piece that slides up and down the band? Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

You can use cmd option r to record directly in vlc. If it's an audio stream the recorded file will be put in your music folder. A video stream will be placed in the movie folder. On Jan 21, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Well, strictly speaking, one could use Audio Hijack Pro to gr

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Tivo can do this and has been able to for years. The closest I ever got to skipping commercials was video-recording something and then hitting fast-forward and counting out about 18-20 seconds and then hitting play. Guess work, but often it came out uncannily close, so much so that I could pla

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Excellent points all. On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > I am not a lawyer, so do not write the following from a legal perspective, > but rather from one of personal ethics. > > For me, this is not an issue of civil disobedience. there are basically two > factors that figure

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Not really sure, as I've never had one. On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > Then the whole secondary audio isn't all what its cracked up to be? > On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> I know that in the UK, quite a lot of movies and television programs

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Hey Karen, you cannot possess your pastry and consume it simultaneously (well, you can, but you can never know which you are doing at any given time … seems like a buzz kill to me, but…) By which I mean to say that you cannot talk about the law as applicable to everyone in the same way, then tu

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Well said. Danny Sent from my phone On 22/01/2013, at 1:36 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Karen, > > Why are you so invested in insulting the rest of the world? I think that > you've made your point quite clearly. The fact that some of us may not agree > with you does not mean that we are al

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Well, if we could just pay the content industry for cable, and they would just recognize that these services are pretty much our way of using cable, and provide all their described content to blindy.tv, I think that could work fine. And as for the whole recording thing, it always can happen. Whe

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

I am not a lawyer, so do not write the following from a legal perspective, but rather from one of personal ethics. For me, this is not an issue of civil disobedience. there are basically two factors that figure in my assessment of this service. 1. Most important, it is a streaming service. N

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Then the whole secondary audio isn't all what its cracked up to be? On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > I know that in the UK, quite a lot of movies and television programs are > described. Given that much of the audio description, except that done by > WGBH, is narrated

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

I know that in the UK, quite a lot of movies and television programs are described. Given that much of the audio description, except that done by WGBH, is narrated by a British narrator, I imagine most of it comes from the UK. I think the main bone of contention here is "legally and fully availab

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Well, the thing for me is, that if I can get the DVS on the TV, then fine, wonderful. I'll surely use it sometimes. But what about when I'm at school, and I want to watch something? I go to a blind school, so I stay in a dorm all through the week. What do I do there? All the other kids watch spu

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

read your own posts Donna, particularly those about the value "to *us.*" what *us* can you possibly mean? Many in this thread have stated plainly that they have no problem whatsoever breaking any law they feel prevents them from having something they want, using and stealing protected content...

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

I have to agree. I have a quite unpitying view of my blindness and am fiercely independent. But four hours of described television is not equality, and not being able to access it regardless of how much is ostensibly available is separate but equal, and not even that. Furthermore, where I live,

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Where the did that come from? I haven't made a single generalization about how others should or should not live, all that's come from you. Or perhaps you don't consider accusing others of stealing passing judgment? FWIW, I find my life to be quite wonderful, and yes, at times "unique and

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Donna, Why are you so invested in reducing every persons experience of sight loss to your own? I think you discover every day, if you so choose that is, that how one lives with a situation is as unique and magical as they desire. I personally have climbed no mountains, played golf tennis, or g

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Karen, Why are you so invested in insulting the rest of the world? I think that you've made your point quite clearly. The fact that some of us may not agree with you does not mean that we are all self-pitying, unscrupulous, thieves. Donna On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

But it can. even more independently than the reprehensible excuse for stealing that is blindi-TV. Depending of course on how the individual in question experiences their blindness and writes their dictionary of independence. Surely you do not think all individuals with a sight loss diagnoses ar

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

But, if that content cannot be independently accessed by a blind individual, then it's value to us decreases significantly. Donna On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > consider asking for a supervisor Alex, it is a Holiday down there tomorrow > smiles. > Still it is support tha

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

consider asking for a supervisor Alex, it is a Holiday down there tomorrow smiles. Still it is support that the claim regarding described content being virtually nonexistent made by the blinditv people is very wrong. I feel sure the list is older, it goes back to early October of last year. th

Re: some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Thanks for the lists. I'll have to call up Time Warner tomorrow and see what they have to say regarding enabling described content, then test it out Tuesday when Big Bang Theory is on (as that's the only show on the list that interests me). Who knows, they might have more content available now,

some big bang for alex, was Blindy.tv - Please spread the word about it

Okay, last one tonight. a tiny bit of data and I do mean tiny. The 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010 reinstates the FCC's involvement in providing rules for video description. Under the rules, affiliates in the top 25 markets and the top five-rated cable networks wi

Re: making a pronunciation change for Alex

c i n t h or c y n t h does the trick for me. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries

Re: making a pronunciation change for Alex

Jeff and Colin, You're geniuses. S y n t h e worked perfectly. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: making a pronunciation change for Alex

Hi Kevin! Try s i n t h e! sinthe! sinthe So if you can put that in your pronunciations table! You can spell it [ sinth ] and it announced as sinthe! hth Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 22 Apr 2011, at 21:03, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Guys, > > I'm a keyboard player and I often write the

Re: making a pronunciation change for Alex

How about: sinthe Hth, Jeff On 2011-04-22, at 4:03 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Guys, > > I'm a keyboard player and I often write the word "synthesizer" as simply > "synth." Unfortunately, I can't come up with a combination of letters that > Alex will pronounce as s, short i, n, th. I've tried

making a pronunciation change for Alex

Guys, I'm a keyboard player and I often write the word "synthesizer" as simply "synth." Unfortunately, I can't come up with a combination of letters that Alex will pronounce as s, short i, n, th. I've tried s, i, n th, to no avail. Does anyone have a clue? Thanks, Kevin -- You received thi