Donna,
Why are you so invested in reducing every persons experience of sight loss to
your own?
I think you discover every day, if you so choose that is, that how one
lives with a situation is as unique and magical as they desire.
I personally have climbed no mountains, played golf tennis, or gone skiing
lately...but I am not about to decide those who do this, and experience
sight loss, are less independent because they do.
Perhaps you should examine for yourself what it is about other people doing
things differently that bothers you so much?
Karen
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013, Donna Goodin wrote:
Karen,
Why are you so invested in insulting the rest of the world? I think that
you've made your point quite clearly. The fact that some of us may not agree
with you does not mean that we are all self-pitying, unscrupulous, thieves.
Donna
On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
But it can. even more independently than the reprehensible excuse for stealing
that is blindi-TV.
Depending of course on how the individual in question experiences their
blindness and writes their dictionary of independence.
Surely you do not think all individuals with a sight loss diagnoses are
exactly the same? the definition alone makes that perspective impossible,
limited, and counter productive.
As a post I shared ages back expressed, all humans are dependent on each other
in one fashion or another. This is more beneficial to understand than
creating false concepts of any experience that translate into exclusion.
especially based on someone Else's definition of independence.
us who? lol!
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013, Donna Goodin wrote:
But, if that content cannot be independently accessed by a blind individual,
then it's value to us decreases significantly.
Donna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
consider asking for a supervisor Alex, it is a Holiday down there tomorrow
smiles.
Still it is support that the claim regarding described content being virtually
nonexistent made by the blinditv people is very wrong.
I feel sure the list is older, it goes back to early October of last year.
the link from the aCB site which I can post too lists things by the day, but it
is a google drive application.
I can share the link anyway though if there is interest .
Karen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Alex Hall wrote:
Thanks for the lists. I'll have to call up Time Warner tomorrow and see what
they have to say regarding enabling described content, then test it out Tuesday
when Big Bang Theory is on (as that's the only show on the list that interests
me). Who knows, they might have more content available now, though I doubt that
the Syfy channel makes it into the top tier.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Okay,
last one tonight. a tiny bit of data and I do mean tiny.
The 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of
2010 reinstates the FCC's involvement in providing rules for
video description. Under the rules, affiliates in the top 25
markets and the top five-rated cable networks will have to
provide at least 50 hours of video described programming per
quarter, starting July 1, 2012.^[8]
this translates into at least 4 hours per week.
Now, this is only a swift listing and is slightly dated.
You will note that TBS has big bang theory in reruns, given this
list was about 3 months into the rules it makes sense that CBS would be running
them now too.
ABC:
* Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23
* Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
* Happy Endings
* Last Man Standing
* The Middle
* Modern Family
* Nashville
* The Neighbors
* Secret Millionaire
* Shark Tank
* Suburgatory
CBS:
* Criminal Minds
* CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
* NCIS
* NCIS: Los Angeles
Disney Channel:
* A.N.T. Farm
* Austin & Ally
* Doc McStuffins
* Dog With a Blog
* Fish Hooks
* Good Luck Charlie
* Gravity Falls
* Jake and the Never Land Pirates
* Jessie
* Little Einsteins
* Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
* Phineas and Ferb
* Shake It Up
Fox:
* American Dad!
* Bob's Burgers
* Bones
* The Cleveland Show
* Family Guy
* The Following
* Glee
* Hell's Kitchen
* Hotel Hell
* Kitchen Nightmares
* MasterChef
* The Mindy Project
* New Girl
* The Simpsons
NBC:
* 30 Rock
* Animal Practice
* Betty White's Off Their Rockers
* Chicago Fire
* Community
* Deception
* Go On
* Grimm
* Guys with Kids
* Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
* Parenthood
* Saving Hope
* The Office
* Parks and Recreation
* Up All Night
* Whitney
Nickelodeon:
* The Backyardigans
* Bubble Guppies
* Dora the Explorer
* The Fairly OddParents
* Go, Diego, Go!
* Max and Ruby
* Mike the Knight
* Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
* Rugrats
* Splatalot!
* Team Umizoomi
TBS:
* The Big Bang Theory (reruns)
* Tyler Perry's For Better or Worse
* Tyler Perry's House of Payne
TNT:
* The Closer
* Law & Order (reruns)
Turner Classic Movies:
* Various films, listed on WGBH's DVS page on TCM
USA Network:
* Common Law
* Covert Affairs
* CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (reruns)
* Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (reruns)
* NCIS (reruns)
* NCIS: Los Angeles (reruns)
* Psych
* Royal Pains
* Suits
Again its dated, but see what I mean?
Karen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Alex Hall wrote:
At the risk of being off-topic, could you provide us with some popular shows
that have audio description? Specifically, I enjoy Star Trek, Doctor Who, Star
Gate (well, I would enjoy that one were it described), and the CBS show The Big
Bang Theory. To my knowledge, none of these are ever described. If they are, I
would love to know about it. I can figure out how to enable the descriptions if
indeed there are descriptions to be heard, but I don't think these shows
regularly air with any descriptions. Perhaps my cable company (TWC) would know,
but I have never had much luck asking basic tech support about accessibility -
they never seem to know what I'm talking about. I do agree that blind people
cannot have it both ways, but exactly what are we supposed to do in the years
it takes standard programming to become accessible?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
depending on where you are, the source of your programming, your cable provider
or satellites provider is required to make that work for you.
In fact you can file an FCC complaint now if they do not.
Additionally, efforts going on to make those menus work easily will not get
much support if people are just going to circulate avenues to stolen property.
And you wonder why the author's guild fears making books work?
What is keeping programs with audio descriptions from getting sponsorship the
way captioning does?
The attitude that those getting the description do not deserve to be treated
like the rest of the consumer marketplace.
They can and will just steal it and circulate it as if this is perfectly fine.
You cannot have it both ways, either you deserve a respected place at the
audience market table regardless of how differently you view that table, or you
deserve the stolen crumbs from that table.
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:
Thanks for that. If I can figure out how the menus on my TV work, I will
certainly use what the FCC has provided.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
you bet it really matters.
And yes they do.
As of July 2012, all five broadcast networks and the same cable networks must
provide audio described content, and they are doing i, every single week.
all television stations in the top 25 markets stateside must provide the
content as well...with additional markets joining each year.
why should anyone invest in population who is simply going to steal property.
cable providers and satellites providers must insure that you can access the
described content.
I do not have the link to post now, but program listings and details are on the
ACB website.
frankly I find this exclusionary and distasteful.
consumers who happen to score differently on an eye chart, must be segregated
to stolen property on the Internet Never mind that Hollywood films and
television shows air each week with described content.
are you so lacking in personal dignity that you feel stolen property is all you
deserve?
Especially since the entire thing could be done legally?
Is to some extent already.
No one is going to value you if you do not value yourselves, document that
there is a market, use what the FCC is doing to enhance the ability for
everyone to enjoy television as they choose.
Karen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Devin Prater wrote:
Hmm. Does it really matter? No one else seems to provide this, do they?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
ahem,
they do have the legal right to run this service with this content?
Karen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Are their any UK channels? Do you think we could have an IOS App so that we
can watch this service anywhere we go and we're not tied to the computer? I
like this service.
Kawal.
On 20 Jan 2013, at 07:51 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
I do like this service. Its pretty good, I can finally watch sci-fi, and
therefore can watch star trek! :)
On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have been given permission to post about this from another list. This is a
great service.
Check it out and please spread the word.
Blindy.tv
Have you ever wanted to watch TV with audio description but can't get the track
on your tv? Well, now you can...sort of. Have a look at this.
http://www.blindy.tv
This project was created so that everyone could watch TV episodes with audio
description. Every show (except the brain channel) has described content. You
can switch channels just like with an actual TV. So far,
their are 5 channels. Comedy, Drama, Si-fi, Brain and ETC. More may be added if
needed. Each show is either 30 or 60 minutes long. After the show their are
commercials (better than on TV, I can promise you that), a news segment or
comedy skit, and some instrumental music at the top and bottom of each hour.
To access this place, you can do one of two things: You can either go to the
website linked above and used the web players, or, if you'd rather listen in
your media player of choice, place this link into it.
This will load all channels, and you can use the next and previous controls to
move through the different channels.
http://blindy.tv/all.m3u
Please give any suggestions or criticisms you have. Feedback is always welcome.
If you like the service, let us know. If you do not, tell us what we could do
to fix it up. Please spread the word if you like it.
Enjoy!
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692
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