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Hi, Scott: Just FYI ... I'm personally waiting for my server OS, Fedora, to provide rpm packages for Asterisk 14.X, but there's yet nothing in rawhide. However, just recently there is a build in Koji destined, it seems, for Fedora 25 of Asterisk-14.4: https://messinet.com/koji/buildinfo?buildID=3

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Ah my asterisk game is behind the times was not aware of that. As always I learn something new from your excellent posts. Wishing I had that 96 KHZ 24 bit across 20 channel sound for the IMAX experience in my home. I’m binging on season 3 Bosh today. I actually called IMAX a year or so ago a

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Indeed, Scott, if we've got the bandwidth, let's bring it on! By mentioning 192/16 audio, I'm actually only referring to the opus codec that's been in FreeSwitch for sometime, and has finally come to Asterisk beginning with Asterisk 14.0. I haven't looked into what codecs Zoom.us offers, but opus

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I’ve seen proprietary systems for remote recording and such that do 24 bit at 96 KHz. Dream Works had a system like this where an OC192 (10 gigabit) fiber path was pulled from Redwood City to Jerry Seinfeld’s office in New York. They put special equipment behind routers on each end (over IP) a

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Hi Michael, Thanks very much for this note. I will check out your steps when I next need to schedule a meeting on my end. Yes, I am running the latest version of Zoom on the Mac. I did sort of find a way to get out of the chat window when going through the list of contacts but once again, you

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Simon, You were heard to say, "h and besides this post is bloody ridiculous and stupid to boot." I cannot help but wonder why you are so hard on yourself. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to o

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s not required. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 1:21 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us then how did an online fan fic m

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s.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us read the article I sent. you can’t take a poem someone posts to a list and publish it as your own! if you could then that stupid book that was originally fanfic for twilight couldn’t have been published into 50 shades of gray. it was first o

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Scott I think this is an alternate fact according to Donnie! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 1:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web

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ehalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 1:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us Nobody has to forward anything, what you write in any mailing list is archived and available with a simple google search. Don’t say anything on lis

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Ok, sure, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 12:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us this is the last I’ll

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Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 12:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us that is not true at all. if I am on a list sharing my thoughts it is my propperty. my writing. no one has the right to forward that. in your view someone could write somethi

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Exactly. And, it could be as stunning as 48Khz sampling, though probably still 16bit. Now when it gets that good, and the technology is in place to add high def video to the equation, why are we still making mono connections over audio? Where's my stereo phone? Heck, where's my Dolby Atmos phone c

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Yes, indeed. Thought, I suspect it was going to be a difficult conversation regardless. After all, you can't hide pregnancy--unless there's some kind of abortive event (of which many are natural and spontaneous). In away this may have made things a tad easier. After all, the whole family would be

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At one point I thought it would useful to have a FAQ for MacVisionaries as sometimes the questions rhyme a lot with earlier discussions. Later I was reading a discussion thread on here and thought I'd try to google around and see if I could find an answer. Of course my search results just turne

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Absolutely Janina, if the service is free then you are the product. Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:26 AM, 'Janin

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Chris, you’ve got it! The gating factor is that you’re both on LTE and that you both have VOLTE enabled under settings, cellular and LTE settings if memory serves. Also add if you’re on WiFi as well that will work in place of LTE. > On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:20 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionari

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Makes sense. So in the case where I'm calling from iPhone 6 to iPhone 6 on Verizon, the gating factor sounds like whether we're both on LTE at that moment in time. When it works, the audio quality is startling. CB On 4/21/17 11:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: I had a nice long detailed message f

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Wow this is so well stated. I also was not familiar with that Facebook case. That’s very eye opening. Can you imagine how that conversation with the parents went? Sometimes I’m glad I did not grow up in the total digital age because it’s so hard to get away with anything.:). Besides, the hack

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I had a nice long detailed message for Chris on this topic and I crashed my mail program. You’re exactly right. To get more specific to his questions. Why does it work sometimes and not others. Being a verizon user I can speak directly to this because you’re using the network I helped build.

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The simple fact that people do, for whatever reason, engage in plagerism is not evidence that you (or they) own anything. The next time you join a list, or a service like Face Book, don't just click the "I Agree" box, but read the terms first. You'll find, for example, that Face Book owns anythin

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Wow I knew I liked you. A John Cage reference, now I’m impressed! Discrete Music anyone? I did an audio art piece in college reproducing the pendulum music if you’re familiar with how that worked. Cognitive dissidence is an art form.;) > On Apr 21, 2017, at 11:08 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVis

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Chris: The old computer adage, "gigo" applies in answer to your question. There are multiple codecs that can be used for telephony. Even the major carriers have started using a higher quality codec when the equipment supports it. You'll see this advertised as "HD Voice," by T-Mobile, for instance

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Hi, Scott, All: As Scott says, it's got to sound good on cheap stuff or it ain't a finished product. I, too, have yet to work in a studio where the mix isn't tried out on cheap hardware before we call it a wrap. As for compression, I expect that's more a culturally induced artifact of contemporar

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I had always wondered what it was when I would call some people on my iPhone 6 and get surprisingly nice audio while other times it was just OK. So what triggers the good audio? My wife and I have the same iPhone 6 on Verizon and sometimes we get that amazing sound quality and sometimes it soun

Moderator Note - Public Domain -was- Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

Hi All, Firstly good morning! :) I am writing this before reading the rest of this thread just yet so as to keep this note clean in essence and avoid any of the emotional nature of this issue so as to keep this policy clear and simple. For now at least. :) In regard to anything anyone posts her

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Just to be clear as well, I’m not objecting to the language anyway, on another list I’d probably have hurled back an equal rejoinder but I know the moderators don’t like the peppering of messages with strong language so I do my best to comply. Like Erik said I was also only pointing out the sta

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I have no particular objection to your language here. I'd like to point out though that people are trying to prevent your misunderstanding from potentially causing you loss or dammage. There is no call to be mean. Best, Erik Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April

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It’s called copyrighting. And you’ve already proved me right by resulting to profanity. You know you have an indefensible position, I smell a troll! > On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:20 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > then how did an online fan fic make a fucking billion dollars? >> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:1

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And just to add to Eric’s excellent points, if you do wish to preserve the integrity of the message then digitally sign it so that modifications will be obvious and will break the digital signature verification. If you note I sign my messages, that just insures that a reader know’s it’s really

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then how did an online fan fic make a fucking billion dollars? > On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Doesn’t matter what view you have I’m giving you the legal precedent here. > I’m well familiar with digital publishing laws as well as common carrier > status and the transmi

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Yes and it was copy righted, nothing you have written is trade marked or copy righted. Some times people are real rocks! I don’t understand how you could possibly think that just because it’s digital intellectual property law doesn’t apply. Copyright and trade mark it otherwise deal with it.

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I'm not trying to start an argument here and this is the last I'll say, but your understanding of your rights as regards your emails is not correct, and I think it's very important to be clear on this. It's not about what is nice or fair or polite. It's about what is. If you send me an email,

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Doesn’t matter what view you have I’m giving you the legal precedent here. I’m well familiar with digital publishing laws as well as common carrier status and the transmission and distribution. Your argument has no legal standing. > On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:56 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > this

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You don’t want it reposted, don’t write it, it’s that simple. Otherwise it’s fair game especially on list. It’s not like I intercepted and decrypted a secure email you sent, you posted it to a public forum, you might as well have printed it out and stuck it up on the peg board at the local gro

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read the article I sent. you can’t take a poem someone posts to a list and publish it as your own! if you could then that stupid book that was originally fanfic for twilight couldn’t have been published into 50 shades of gray. it was first online. > On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Scott Granados w

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Absolutely un true both in a legal and practical matter. You have no property rights when you join any list, you need to read that fine print more. Also you would have to have copyright protections in place to protect your content and even then normal academic principles apply where you can si

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Nobody has to forward anything, what you write in any mailing list is archived and available with a simple google search. Don’t say anything on list you wouldn’t say in public, that’s the moral of the story. THere’s absolutely no expectation of privacy when it comes to the Internet and public

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this is the last I’ll say on this list about this issue; all I’m saying is ask! this is an article giving propper credit to -Kelly Talcott think about it won’t you!!! >From the perspective of the person posting on a forum: I’m sure many people >assume that posting on a public forum means thei

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it’s simple netiquite not to repost something someone else wrote without asking. come on people! > On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Erik Burggraaf wrote: > > Once you send a message, it becomes the public domain and the property of the > person who received it. All of the messages for this list are

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that is not true at all. if I am on a list sharing my thoughts it is my propperty. my writing. no one has the right to forward that. in your view someone could write something on a list. I could snag it and rpost it and say it’s mine, since in your words it becomes “my propperty’ that is frankly

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Could not agree more. :) On 4/21/17, Erik Burggraaf wrote: > Once you send a message, it becomes the public domain and the property of > the person who received it. All of the messages for this list are publicly > archived for anyone to read with a search engine. Anyone can forward > anything tha

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Once you send a message, it becomes the public domain and the property of the person who received it. All of the messages for this list are publicly archived for anyone to read with a search engine. Anyone can forward anything that they think is valuable to someone they think might be able to u

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I hope no one is forwarding messages I send to this or any list without my permission! really not cool. > On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:53 AM, Michael Babcock, Host of the Your Own Pay > Podcast wrote: > > Cara: > I’ve forwarded this message on to zoom. > supp...@zoom.us -- The following information

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@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us With the weekly apple conference that I host, we all use the internet audio from the app, and the sound is great. It’s usually about 7 to 10 of us. On Apr 20, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Caitlyn Furness mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>>

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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us Lots of these webinar things have bad sound quality-and the more you have on the lines, etc, the worse it seems to be!! Wonder if sighted people think the quality is as bad as most of us probably do?! Cait &g

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, 21 April 2017 4:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us I will add that zoom allows you to give participant's a call in number instead, a fine option for those ho prefer attending without video at all. Granted as is often the case when the

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Simon F From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:06 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us Hi all, I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new web co

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You know I don’t even think the consumer issue is as deep as you say. I don’t think most people care not because of anything other than most are totally unaware of what’s going on around them and sort of fall to the lowest common denominator. For example, I used to work as a recording engineer

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Cara: I’ve forwarded this message on to zoom. supp...@zoom.us This is in hopes that they reply and we can find a positive resolution to the issues users are facing with it. Everyone’s use case scenario is different, for example I schedule my meetings and webinars on my ac

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I avoid the Mac version all together. I can’t speak to the screen sharing, but everything else you mentioned, is completely accessible within the IOS app. Scheduling a meeting, adding participants, and even adding it to your calendar. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Karen

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Cara, is this zoom.us thing, a web, browser based thing? Or is it an app? > On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Karen and All, > > I have also been using Zoom with a corporate account pretty much every day > for about a year now but unlike everyone else posting here so far, I

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Karen and All, I have also been using Zoom with a corporate account pretty much every day for about a year now but unlike everyone else posting here so far, I have encountered a number of really bothersome accessibility issues. So I am wondering if you or someone else in this thread may be able

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well, given there is no more uniformity in appreciating sound then there is a uniform sighted verses blind people concept at all, I would say certainly some do. What tends to happen with consumers in general is that they think it is supposed to be that bad because they hear it everywhere. M

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Cait, yes they do. I worked for a long time for Fidelity Investments where we built a custom video and audio conferencing system. It replaced the one Verizon offers. We actually took great care to have good quality audio along with fantastic video. We supported from standard definition video

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With the weekly apple conference that I host, we all use the internet audio from the app, and the sound is great. It’s usually about 7 to 10 of us. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Caitlyn Furness > wrote: > > Lots of these webinar things have bad sound quality-and the more you have on > the li

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Lots of these webinar things have bad sound quality-and the more you have on the lines, etc, the worse it seems to be!! Wonder if sighted people think the quality is as bad as most of us probably do?! Cait > On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I will add that zoom allows

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I will add that zoom allows you to give participant's a call in number instead, a fine option for those ho prefer attending without video at all. Granted as is often the case when the audio is video based, the quality is sort of nose crinkle worthy, but at least the door for phone alone is th

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Whoa Alex that’s good news. That could really help folks on the job front, especially blind engineers in tech support. Very cool and thanks for the pointer. . > On Apr 20, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new web conferencing service was discov

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I HAVE BEEN USING ZOOM FOR ABOUT A YEAR, IT IS MOSTLY ACCESSIBLE, JUST THAT SOME OPTIONS THAT ARE available to the sited user, vo doesn’t read during a conference, but it’s not a deal breaker. > On Apr 20, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new we

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Yes, I have been using Zoom for the past year or so. It is accessible. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 20/04/2017, at 20:06, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new web confere

Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

Hi all, I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new web conferencing service was discovered recently: www.zoom.us. The big news here is that they have an accessibility website (https://zoom.us/accessibility), an email address (acc...@zoom.us), and a commitment to keeping their product accessible. They