Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Did the latter. I’ll check to make sure screen recognition is off. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:27 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Odd, I have not experienced this issue. I have the known bugs with the lock > screen, but everywhere else works just fine. Make sure Screen recognition is >

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
Odd, I have not experienced this issue. I have the known bugs with the lock screen, but everywhere else works just fine. Make sure Screen recognition is off. Also, try turning VO off and then back on. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 20:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > No. I’m experie

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
No. I’m experiencing them while in various apps. One that jumps to mind is Mail. I frequently have trouble getting mail messages to open. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Am I correct in that you are experiencing these double tapping issues on the > lock

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
Am I correct in that you are experiencing these double tapping issues on the lock screen? > On Sep 14, 2022, at 20:20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I’ve never experienced that until this upgrade. The strange thing about all > this is that the behavior is very inconsistent.

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I’ve never experienced that until this upgrade. The strange thing about all this is that the behavior is very inconsistent. Sometimes I’ll double tap and everything’s good. Other times I can double-tap and double-tap forever and nothing happens. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:50 PM,

Re: Absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site

2022-09-14 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm not because I use "m.facebook.com " if I'm on my Mac mini or the phone app but I know somebody else who often complains of having this problem. > On Sep 13, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > hey all, > I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth with th

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Bradford Snyder
I also am not experiencing any “swiping” issues. Only problem I am having, is when I have Smart Invert (or Classic Invert) enabled, I am not able to access the AppSwitcher. I am able to remedy this situation by, turning off Smart Invert, and then restarting my iPhone. Once the phone restarts, the

Re: Absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Marshall
Thanks so much for the link, but sadly, it's still doing the same thing. I know this has been reported to Facebook as well. > On 14 Sep 2022, at 10:52 pm, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Try using http://m.facebook.com instead. > >> On Sep 13, 2022, at 23:46, Michael Marshall >

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
We have had that issue for a number of years now. What’s frustrating is it has not been resolved. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 14:21, Jessica Moss wrote: > > I’ve found this to be an issue as well, along with something strange > happening with my phone screen this morning. I went into my recent cont

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Upgraded yesterday. No swiping issues of any kind. No issues either with the phone app; So far the only thing I see that confirms I am using iOS 16 is in the app stire app and checking latest nates. Apple separated the release notes and put them after tyhe open button. Other than that, thing

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Jessica Moss
I’m using an iPhone 12. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 3:29 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Jessica, I don’t usually call people from contacts, but what you are > describing makes sense. It’s seems like there is some fundamental problem > with VO focusing on an item and then holdin

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Jessica, I don’t usually call people from contacts, but what you are describing makes sense. It’s seems like there is some fundamental problem with VO focusing on an item and then holding that focus until I shift it by touching another element on the screen. What phone model do you have? Donna

Re: I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread Jessica Moss
I’ve found this to be an issue as well, along with something strange happening with my phone screen this morning. I went into my recent contacts, and tried calling back someone who was close to the top of the screen, and ended up calling someone else instead, not realizing what happened. Then

I recommend against upgrading to IOS 16

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all, After approx 24 hours with IOS 16, I have come to the conclusion that my phone is only marginally usable. In addition to the swiping issue previously discussed, I’m also finding that often when I tap an icon or a mail message, the item will not open. Sometimes I can work around this b

Re: iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
Did you try your passcode several times? That's usually the reason for a lockout like that one. The timeing is a security measure so that if someone was really trying to get into your ph*, you would have more time to report it as stolen. Herbie > On Sep 14, 2022, at 13:34, Patrick Ford wrot

Re: iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Patrick Ford
ok thanks I have the gear for this - I just had a sighted person look at the screen - she is an android user - she said the screen states: iPhone not in use, come back in 2 hours and 30 minutes - she thinks I have been locked out of my phone - why would I be locked out? and why this much time to

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
One example under Monterey is in System prefs, Startup. Voiceover will read two' click the lock buttons but both either of them will do the job. The verbiage is not new to Monterey though. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution ine

Re: iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
A standard USBC to Lightning cable. The phone should appear in the sidebar, but if you have not done this before, you may have to tell the phone to trust the computer. If it’s a setup screen though on the phone you might not have that problem. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 12:45, Patrick Ford wrote: >

Re: iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Patrick Ford
oh ok but how do I plug it in to the mac? Come and See scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io > On Sep 14, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Plug the phone into the Mac and see if you can get to Accessability that way. > This is a bug that several people are experiencing. > >> On Sep 14,

Re: iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
Plug the phone into the Mac and see if you can get to Accessability that way. This is a bug that several people are experiencing. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 12:11, Patrick Ford wrote: > > Hi, > After closing the phone app the voice over shut off and has not come back on. > I installed IOS 16 last n

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hmm. Interesting. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 14, 2022, at 11:33 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I am not sure verbosity is the issue. The same extra verbiage occurs on the > Mac as well. I'm sure Apple could do it but they'd have to clean up the text > elements and combine what we p

iPhone SE VO not working

2022-09-14 Thread Patrick Ford
Hi, After closing the phone app the voice over shut off and has not come back on. I installed IOS 16 last night and this is the first time I tried the phone. I shut the phone off and back on a few times with no results. Is there a way with no sighted help to get VO back on? Of course I have tried

Re: Bluetooth Connectivity

2022-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Brad, Its too bad I cannot switch between the two devices but I will certainly try Do Not Disturb. That ought to take care of. Thanks for mentioning that option. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kenne

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I am not sure verbosity is the issue. The same extra verbiage occurs on the Mac as well. I'm sure Apple could do it but they'd have to clean up the text elements and combine what we perceive as redundant. I've sent feedback in years past and see no change. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who

Re: Bluetooth Connectivity

2022-09-14 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! No idea on how to switch the hearing aids but there must be a way of doing that. Regarding the guide dog question I should put it in focus mode when out walking. /A > 13 sep. 2022 kl. 23:05 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > : > > Now that I have new hearing devices with Bluetooth and paire

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Lol Thanks. I was thinking about doing the exact same thing. :) I guess it surprised me because there are so many options for configuring verbosity on the phone, iPad and Mac. I know VO on Apple TV is a little more limited, but still you’d think they’d give us some options for controlling how

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Donna and All, Crazy is right! :) I’ll go you one better though; I focus on the Play button for whatever media I am about to play and then turn VO off before I click it. This can be a little persnickety but it is super clean. I too, cannot stand all of the extra chattiness and really wish wh

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Honestly Donna, this is the path of leqast resistance. Its such an easy solution, I don't even think about it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/14/2022

More Watch 9 weirdness

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all, When I check the battery in Control center on my watch, the correct—I assume—battery level is spoken. But when I put my watch on the charger, VO says the battery is at 0%. I have tried restarting my watch, but the problem still persists. Anyone else experiencing this? If yes, I will

Displaying sleep info in Watch 9?

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all, In previous releases of WatchOS, when I opened the sleep app, there was a heading that said Your Data, and below that was the amount of time I had slept the night before. Now, there is something that says Analysis, which gives me a weekly overview, but the information about my sleep ti

Re: Absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site

2022-09-14 Thread Herbie Allen
Try using http://m.facebook.com instead. > On Sep 13, 2022, at 23:46, Michael Marshall wrote: > > hey all, > I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site. > For awhile now, every time I try and respond to a comment on the desktop, I > get the me

Re: Displaying actual activity numbers in Watch 9?

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Mary, I should also tell you that if for some reason you get a percentage—the activity complication seems to behave differently in different configurations, you can tap it and get the number. I still don’t like it. The percentage is much less useful, and it creates more tapping to actually ge

Re: Gmail messages keep downloading to Mac hat I deleted

2022-09-14 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
It is to both. > On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:10 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > I would check Gmail on the web and make sure it’s set to iMap. Also, make > sure it set your mac up that way. > >> On Sep 13, 2022, at 20:45, Sarai Bucciarelli >> wrote: >> >> Hi all: >> I use Mac mail. Erase gMail messa

Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?

2022-09-14 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That’s crazy! But, if that’s the solution, that’s what I’ll do. Thanks for the confirmation, Mark. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 13, 2022, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hi Donna. > > E. T. is correct. > > When I start media playback and VO will not stop talking, I triple press the > Home b

Re: Absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site

2022-09-14 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Yep, its been happening for months. Experience it on Windows too. > On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:44 AM, Brandon Olivares > wrote: > > That's weird; I've not been experiencing anything like that. The mobile site > works well for me. > > Brandon > >> On Sep 14, 2022, at 12:46 AM, Michael Marshall >

Re: Absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site

2022-09-14 Thread Brandon Olivares
That's weird; I've not been experiencing anything like that. The mobile site works well for me. Brandon > On Sep 14, 2022, at 12:46 AM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > hey all, > I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the Facebook basic site. > For awhile now, every time I try and respon