Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 07:23:18PM +0100, Duncan Simpson wrote: > How about > > Use AMS math: (*) automatic (recommended) ( )Yes ( )No I like this. > and even perhaps > > Validate LaTeX: ( ) Automatic (*)Yes (recommended) ( )No I don't like this, since it is not clear to me what "validati

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-04 Thread Duncan Simpson
How about Use AMS math: (*) automatic (recommended) ( )Yes ( )No and even perhaps Validate LaTeX: ( ) Automatic (*)Yes (recommended) ( )No where automatic would guess whether it could cope with the LaTeX/plain TeX and not validate it if saw something odd. This could just be a minimal scan

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 01:34:20PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:02:31AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > But what did Herbert have already, as John said higher up here? > > Correct me if I'm dumb, but doesn't Herbert have a package manager > that allows the user to c

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-04 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:02:31AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > But what did Herbert have already, as John said higher up here? Correct me if I'm dumb, but doesn't Herbert have a package manager that allows the user to control exactly what lyx will automatically insert the pre-amble ? I'd muc

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 08:21:05AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Then you may want to consider radio buttons: > > > > < > "Use AMS" > > < > "Don't use AMS" > > "Let LyX decide" > > ... _that_ might indeed be an option. Would that be difficult to implement? > > Andre' Shouldn't

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:07:19AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > You have that now... but with validation taking precedence. Do you really > want to reverse that (i.e. the button taking precedence)? Be careful what > you wish for. [Yes. Because validation happens behind a user's back and can dec

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 08:13:38PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > "Suppress AMS" on "Suppress AMS" off > > "Use AMS" on - + > > "Use AMS" off - (Valid

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 08:13:38PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > "Suppress AMS" on "Suppress AMS" off > "Use AMS" on - + > "Use AMS" off - (Validation result) > > Neither switch is a no-op. Does this make sense? No,

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:04:20PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:51:05PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > I would indeed rather inconvenience a few smart people to doing that, > > than have a lot of not-so-smart people curse LyX for mysteriously refusing > > to produ

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:51:05PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > I would indeed rather inconvenience a few smart people to doing that, > than have a lot of not-so-smart people curse LyX for mysteriously refusing > to produce legal LaTeX. > So, by all means put in the option of suppressing the

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:27:35AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:12:18PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Um, "AMS user detection" goes wrong a lot more easily. Trust me, I know > > users :-) > > > > I think auto-detection is a definite must. That, or always include A

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:12:18PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Um, "AMS user detection" goes wrong a lot more easily. Trust me, I know > users :-) > > I think auto-detection is a definite must. That, or always include AMS > (the price is small), *and* don't allow the user to accidentally turn

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-03 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 07:02:27AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Herbert already has a dialog for doing this, no ? > > For doing what? For deciding when "AMS auto detection" went wrong? > > Andre' Um, "AMS user detection" goes wrong a lot more easily. Trust me, I know users :-) I think aut

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-06-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Herbert already has a dialog for doing this, no ? For doing what? For deciding when "AMS auto detection" went wrong? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-05-31 Thread John Levon
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:44:31PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > So if you insert an URL, you should have to separately switch on "use > > url package" too? > > Would be sensible in fact because this leaves you the power to decide. And saps the user of the power to work out why their stuff do

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-05-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:36:36PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> The User should say whether he want AMS included or not. We > Andre> should not try to guess it from the presence of, say, a macro > Andre> '\binom' which is AMS, but could as well be the user's own > Andre> definition

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-05-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:32:18AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Andre> wrote: poenitz> Log message: re-enable ams "autodetection" (I still think it poenitz> is wrong...) >> Why is it wrong? Andre> The logic. Andre> The User shoul

Re: lyx-devel src/mathed/: ChangeLog math_hullinset.C

2002-05-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:32:18AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > poenitz> Log message: re-enable ams "autodetection" (I still think it > poenitz> is wrong...) > > Why is it wrong? The logic. The User should say whether he want AMS included or not. We should not try to guess it from the p