Am 30.11.2015 um 12:59 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
Sure. I'll file a bug report that this is not forgotten.
Done:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9885
Regards Uwe
Le 29/11/2015 23:55, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Am 29.11.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
This separation between box alignment and paragraph alignment does not
exist in LaTeX. This is a creation that you propose.
Yes, because LyX doesn't allow you to choose between e.g. \begin{center}
or
Original Message
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Sent: Montag, 30. November 2015 10:32
>> Yes, because LyX doesn't allow you to choose between e.g. \begin{center} or
>> \centering.
> So the right solution would be to add a checkbox 'compact alignment' (or
'tight' or whatever) so that the align
Am 29.11.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
Why would the text in the minipage need different vertical spacing than
the main text? They are of same nature.
Well, the user is free to decide. if he likes it, why not? Note that i
am arguing for a method to set the alignment to ALL box t
Le 29/11/2015 22:13, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Am 27.11.2015 um 11:39 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
Are we sure that minipage always requires centering without extra
spacing? I am really not sure...
I am sure. See the attached file:
Emphasis was on "always" above. If your reasoning is correct, th
Am 27.11.2015 um 11:39 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
Are we sure that minipage always requires centering without extra
spacing? I am really not sure...
I am sure. See the attached file:
The paragraph separation in this file is the default - indentation not
vertical space.
So users just wan
Le 24/11/2015 20:02, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
As I already explained in the relevant thread, there are already cases
where we do what you want: table cells and floats. It would be trivial
to extend this so that alignment is done like that also for makebox (we
do not want to change minipage/parbox, do
Original Message
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Sent: Dienstag, 24. November 2015 09:33
> As I already explained in the relevant thread, there are already cases
where we do what you want: table cells and floats. It would be trivial
to extend this so that alignment is done like that also for ma
Le 24/11/2015 01:21, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Yes. Sorry, I meant the extra space. And this was the reason why I once
added the possibility to set the vertical alignment in boxes - for this
application there must not be extra space as I demonstrated.
As we now have the infrastructure to display the al
Am 23.11.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
As already said, the problem is not about an extra \par, but the fact
that the center environments adds some extra space.
Yes. Sorry, I meant the extra space. And this was the reason why I once
added the possibility to set the vertical alig
Le 22/11/2015 18:52, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
I am fine with your patch to be in but there are more things to do:
I know, but my patch never intended to do this things. This patch is
merely a spin-off of the discussion about your commit.
My idea was to allow to set the alignment of the box conte
Le 21/11/2015 10:02, Georg Baum a écrit :
You have my vote for submitting this.
Thanks. It is in now.
JMarc
Am 20.11.2015 um 22:30 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
This new version of the patch is also able to handle 'stretch' alignment.
Concerning LaTeX output, hor_pos 'c' value is obtained by omitting
alignment parameter. I guess one can specify 'c' explicitly, though.
For screen layout, we always wan
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> This new version of the patch is also able to handle 'stretch' alignment.
>
> Concerning LaTeX output, hor_pos 'c' value is obtained by omitting
> alignment parameter. I guess one can specify 'c' explicitly, though.
> For screen layout, we always want to specify some
Le 23/10/2015 21:47, Georg Baum a écrit :
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Actually fixing this for LR boxes (so-called makebox in the code) is not
difficult because we have the framework for table cells already. I
propose to put that in master. Would it be OK?
I did not know that mechanism. This
Le 23/10/2015 21:47, Georg Baum a écrit :
I did not know that mechanism. This looks indeed nice. However, I wonder
whether the condition for ignoring hor_pos should be the same as the one
used for LaTeX output. When looking at your patch I could not see whether
both places are equivalent. Anyway
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Actually fixing this for LR boxes (so-called makebox in the code) is not
> difficult because we have the framework for table cells already. I
> propose to put that in master. Would it be OK?
I did not know that mechanism. This looks indeed nice. However, I wonder
wh
On 10/23/2015 11:33 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 23/10/2015 11:21, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
Le 19/10/2015 21:46, Georg Baum a écrit :
I found another reason for removal: The display in LyX does only
consider
the paragraph alignment, so if you set that to left (which means
that the
Le 23/10/2015 11:21, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
Le 19/10/2015 21:46, Georg Baum a écrit :
I found another reason for removal: The display in LyX does only consider
the paragraph alignment, so if you set that to left (which means that the
paragraph does not output any alignment command), and
Le 19/10/2015 21:46, Georg Baum a écrit :
I found another reason for removal: The display in LyX does only consider
the paragraph alignment, so if you set that to left (which means that the
paragraph does not output any alignment command), and set it so something
else than left in the box, the di
Le 22/10/2015 21:03, Georg Baum a écrit :
Le 20/10/2015 23:46, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Georg, attached are 2 documents, one created with LyX 2.1. where I used
the paragraph settings to center, one created with LyX 2.2. You see the
difference: The Paragraph-alignment added a paragraph of course leadi
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Nevertheless one must discuss how useful the tests are if they make so
> many troubled what anybody just changed a layout file without touching
> tex2lyx. I still think that the main purpose of the tex2lyx tests should
> be to test tex2lyx capabilities.
Exactly, and this is wha
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 20/10/2015 23:46, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
>> Georg, attached are 2 documents, one created with LyX 2.1. where I used
>> the paragraph settings to center, one created with LyX 2.2. You see the
>> difference: The Paragraph-alignment added a paragraph of course leading
>>
> Am 20.10.2015 um 02:11 schrieb Uwe Stöhr :
> ... I see that I won't be able to follow LyX's development in future since
> even Git is too hard for me to handle. I never need a console in my life or
> work and therefore cannot remember all these commands. (E.g. I spent 2 hours
> to get cherry
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:46:14PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Am 20.10.2015 um 04:39 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>
> >I CC'ed you on the following emails (it hides that I CC'ed you but if
> >you search for the message in your email client it should show it):
>
> Hm, now I see them. There were automat
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:07:57PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> Finally, I believe that your impression that everybody else is a
> professional software developer, that LyX development is only for those, and
> that you are severly limited by not being one, is a bit exaggerating this
> difference.
Le 20/10/2015 23:46, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Georg, attached are 2 documents, one created with LyX 2.1. where I used
the paragraph settings to center, one created with LyX 2.2. You see the
difference: The Paragraph-alignment added a paragraph of course leading
to whitespace one doesn't want in boxes.
On 10/20/2015 04:07 PM, Georg Baum wrote:
...I mainly use git for LyX development like "svn + stash", and keep
two separate working trees for branch and master.
I do the same, just because compiling is faster this way (and disk space
is cheap).
Many git features are confusing for me as well
Am 20.10.2015 um 04:39 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
I CC'ed you on the following emails (it hides that I CC'ed you but if
you search for the message in your email client it should show it):
Hm, now I see them. There were automatically moved into the spam folder
where also all the commit report ma
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> ( I see now in mail-archive.com this thread. It would have been nice to
> send me at least a direct mail to assure that I am informed. In the past
> I could read the list via NNTP but my ISP dropped that feature. When I
> am abroad I don't read mail-archive.com .)
Do you mean t
Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> After rereading the below email I just realized I often use the term
> "we" and "us". Sorry about that. I do not mean to pretend like I am
> speaking on behalf of everyone (I do not forget that I am a relative
> newcommer here!). Instead of taking the time to correct all t
Le 20/10/2015 04:39, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
Many developers pop in and out. I think JMarc is the only developer who
is consistent. It is a wonder how he has not gone insane yet (or maybe
he is pushing his commits from the inside of an insane asylum?).
Am I supposed to resent this? (don't wor
After rereading the below email I just realized I often use the term
"we" and "us". Sorry about that. I do not mean to pretend like I am
speaking on behalf of everyone (I do not forget that I am a relative
newcommer here!). Instead of taking the time to correct all the "we" and
"us" I am just issui
Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
The attached file produces a left-aligned box in 2.1.3 but a centered
box for 2.2dev.
Uwe I remember you've done a lot of work on boxes in master. Can you
take a look? I did not do a git bisect (let me know if this would be
useful).
Sorry Scott,
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 07:05:07PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
> I'm happy with option (2), if we do remove this code. People who use 2.2.dev
> for actual work are taking this kind of risk, and it's not that terrible.
+1
Scott
On 10/19/2015 03:46 PM, Georg Baum wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 18/10/15 17:01, Georg Baum a écrit :
What is wrong with the new alignment handling? It is IMHO confusing and
not needed, we have paragraph alignment. Look at the attached example: I
set the box alignment to centered, and
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 18/10/15 17:01, Georg Baum a écrit :
>> What is wrong with the new alignment handling? It is IMHO confusing and
>> not needed, we have paragraph alignment. Look at the attached example: I
>> set the box alignment to centered, and the paragraph alignment to right.
>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:01:37AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 18/10/15 17:01, Georg Baum a écrit :
> >What is wrong with the new alignment handling? It is IMHO confusing and not
> >needed, we have paragraph alignment. Look at the attached example: I set the
> >box alignment to centered
Le 18/10/15 17:01, Georg Baum a écrit :
What is wrong with the new alignment handling? It is IMHO confusing and not
needed, we have paragraph alignment. Look at the attached example: I set the
box alignment to centered, and the paragraph alignment to right. This will
produce \centered \begin{flus
Richard Heck wrote:
> On 10/16/2015 05:15 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:04:32PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
>>
In my opinion this is a serious regression. Many users have boxes.
>>> We should not release the alpha version with this regression IMHO.
>> OK. This issue is
On 10/16/2015 05:15 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:04:32PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
We cannot simply revert stuff, for the reason you mention above: We cannot
ignore the alignment for 2.2 files. We do probably need another format
change.
OK.
In my opinion this is a ser
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:04:32PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> We cannot simply revert stuff, for the reason you mention above: We cannot
> ignore the alignment for 2.2 files. We do probably need another format
> change.
OK.
> > In my opinion this is a serious regression. Many users have boxes.
Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> Hi Uwe,
>
> I am now convinced this is a regression. If in 2.1.x you just create a
> simple frameless box and then you open the file in master, the box is
> now centered.
I discussed the same issue with Uwe when the tex2lyx tests failed because of
these changes. He conv
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 01:55:02PM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 01:23:00PM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:41:27PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> > >> Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Sco
On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 01:23:00PM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:41:27PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> >> Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >> >The attached file produces a left-aligned box in 2.1.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:41:27PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>> >The attached file produces a left-aligned box in 2.1.3 but a centered
>> >box for 2.2dev.
>> >
>> >Uwe I remember you've done
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:41:27PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >The attached file produces a left-aligned box in 2.1.3 but a centered
> >box for 2.2dev.
> >
> >Uwe I remember you've done a lot of work on boxes in master. Can you
> >take a look?
>
> H
Am 20.06.2015 um 05:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
The attached file produces a left-aligned box in 2.1.3 but a centered
box for 2.2dev.
Uwe I remember you've done a lot of work on boxes in master. Can you
take a look?
Hi Scott,
I am currently abroad and can therefore not have a look the next da
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