Re: NatBib/bibtopic Multiple bibliographies error

2024-06-11 Thread John Robert Hudson
On Thursday, 6 June 2024 18:01:42 BST Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 04.06.2024 um 12:16 +0100 schrieb John Robert Hudson: > > Sorry, having installed 2.4, I am still getting the error message in > > the LaTeX > > log: > > > > Package natbib Warning: There were undefined citations. >

Re: NatBib/bibtopic Multiple bibliographies error

2024-06-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 04.06.2024 um 12:16 +0100 schrieb John Robert Hudson: > Sorry, having installed 2.4, I am still getting the error message in > the LaTeX > log: > > Package natbib Warning: There were undefined citations. > > Package bibtopic Warning: Please (re)run BibTeX on the file(s): > (bibt

Re: ? Natbib/Bibtopic Multiple bibliographies error

2024-02-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 06.02.2024 um 20:31 + schrieb John Robert Hudson: > Using RC~1 and today RC-2 with Multiple bibliographies per section > set, I get > a LyX warning that there are undefined citations in all but the first > section. > Looking at the LaTeX log, I find: > > Package natbib Warni

Re: natbib question

2002-07-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:05:25PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > André has been doing some work on integrating such insetcommand insets into > the mathed way of doing things. This would give you a much more powerful > parser of such things for free. Perhaps you might like to ask him for further

Re: natbib question

2002-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 19 July 2002 1:28 pm, Edwin Leuven wrote: > How easy/difficult would it be to have the "text before" option working > with natbib? > > I think that it would be nice to have this in 1.3... A hack is easy. Output to the LyX file something like "before |++| after" where "|++|" is some hom

Re: Natbib

2002-06-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 10 June 2002 9:40 am, R. Lahaye wrote: > Juergen Spitzmueller writes: > > R. Lahaye wrote: > > > Hmmm, if LyX by its own is able to decide whether it needs natbib, then > > > why do we need a manual checkbox for "use natbib"? Why not using natbib > > > automagically when needed? > > > >

Re: Natbib

2002-06-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
R. Lahaye wrote: > Juergen Spitzmueller writes: > > And how should LyX decide this? > > Don't know, but Angus wrote in > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel%40lists.lyx.org/msg39253.html : > > "It is intended in that we call InsetCitation::validate to ascertain >whether we need a \usepacka

Re: Natbib

2002-06-10 Thread R. Lahaye
Juergen Spitzmueller writes: > > R. Lahaye wrote: > > Hmmm, if LyX by its own is able to decide whether it needs natbib, then why > > do we need a manual checkbox for "use natbib"? Why not using natbib > > automagically when needed? > > And how should LyX decide this? Don't know, but Angus wrote

Re: Natbib

2002-06-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
R. Lahaye wrote: > Hmmm, if LyX by its own is able to decide whether it needs natbib, then why > do we need a manual checkbox for "use natbib"? Why not using natbib > automagically when needed? And how should LyX decide this? Juergen.

Re: Natbib

2002-06-09 Thread R. Lahaye
Angus Leeming writes: > On Saturday 08 June 2002 5:29 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > > > Despite enabling "use natbib" in Document, \usepackage{natbib} is inserted > > to the preamble only if the user has inserted a citation inset. > > It is intended in that we call InsetCitation::validate

Re: Natbib

2002-06-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Sunday 09 June 2002 2:25 pm, you wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: > >>I wonder if this is intended, and why: > >> > >>Despite enabling "use natbib" in Document, \usepackage{natbib} is > >> inserted to the preamble only if the user has inserted a citation inset. > >>This has bugged me while I wante

Re: Natbib

2002-06-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Angus Leeming wrote: >>I wonder if this is intended, and why: >> >>Despite enabling "use natbib" in Document, \usepackage{natbib} is inserted >>to the preamble only if the user has inserted a citation inset. >>This has bugged me while I wanted to create a list of the whole database >>with a nifty

Re: Natbib

2002-06-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Saturday 08 June 2002 5:29 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if this is intended, and why: > > Despite enabling "use natbib" in Document, \usepackage{natbib} is inserted > to the preamble only if the user has inserted a citation inset. > This has bugged me while I wanted to cre

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-24 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 6:19 pm, Mike Ressler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Angus Leeming wrote: > > On Monday 22 April 2002 8:12 pm, Mike Ressler wrote: > > > No problem. As a return favor, could you look at the ProvidesNatbib > > > patch I sent out Friday? The patch itself is trivial, but you

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Ressler
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Monday 22 April 2002 8:12 pm, Mike Ressler wrote: > > No problem. As a return favor, could you look at the ProvidesNatbib patch > > I sent out Friday? The patch itself is trivial, but you might be able to > > address my question about how "ProvidesNat

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 22 April 2002 8:12 pm, Mike Ressler wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Angus Leeming wrote: > > On Monday 22 April 2002 11:00 am, Angus Leeming wrote: > > > This might make you happy... > > > > > > If you could test it a little, that'd make me happy too. > > Had a few minutes to play with it

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 23 April 2002 9:19 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Silence is not approval. > I want to hear J-M's opinion, since he has look at this case > earlier... Fair enough. I just wanted to trigger some response. Jean-Marc, the patch I submitted yesterday contained a bug that lead to the oc

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-23 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Monday 22 April 2002 10:35 am, Angus Leeming wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 April 2002 10:31 am, Angus Leeming wrote: >> > On Monday 15 April 2002 4:40 pm, Angus Leeming wrote: >> > > I think that the screen label part of the patch is fine, although I've >>

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 22 April 2002 10:35 am, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Tuesday 16 April 2002 10:31 am, Angus Leeming wrote: > > On Monday 15 April 2002 4:40 pm, Angus Leeming wrote: > > > I think that the screen label part of the patch is fine, although I've > > > modified it to work with numerical natbib ci

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-22 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 10:31 am, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2002 4:40 pm, Angus Leeming wrote: > > I think that the screen label part of the patch is fine, although I've > > modified it to work with numerical natbib citations and to cache the > > label. > > > > Attached are my re-

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> 3. Most importantly, I want to Angus> minimise the footprint of any changes I'm making. The current Angus> patch affects the citation inset only and either works or Angus> doesn't work. That makes sense. Angus> Having said all th

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 1:26 pm, Edwin Leuven wrote: > > All works very well here, but I'd like some volunteer testers please. No > > testers, no apply... > > applied patch but compile breaks down... I think that this is saying that Buffer::getBibkeyList() is non-const so a Buffer const * can't

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Edwin Leuven
> All works very well here, but I'd like some volunteer testers please. No > testers, no apply... applied patch but compile breaks down... g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I./../ -I../.. -I../../boost -isystem /usr/X11R6/include -g -O -fno-exceptions -W -Wall -c insetcite.C -MT insetci

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 12:58 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> I have tested this patch pretty thoroughly myself and have > Angus> decided that it's only real shortcoming is that it results in > Angus> VERY slow loading of a b

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> I have tested this patch pretty thoroughly myself and have Angus> decided that it's only real shortcoming is that it results in Angus> VERY slow loading of a buffer. This occurs because we reload Angus> Buffer::getBibkeyList from a

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-16 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 15 April 2002 4:40 pm, Angus Leeming wrote: > I think that the screen label part of the patch is fine, although I've > modified it to work with numerical natbib citations and to cache the label. > > Attached are my re-workings. [snip] I have tested this patch pretty thoroughly myself a

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-15 Thread Angus Leeming
On Sunday 14 April 2002 5:17 pm, Herbert Voss wrote: > a diff which > - gives wysiwyg natbib labels and standard behaviour >without natbib. > - supports the "before" input textfield in the gui > - fixes another bug with familyName in biblio.C > > > the citation-string looks like: > > \citet[..

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-15 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 15 April 2002 4:06 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Herbert> a diff which - gives wysiwyg natbib labels and standard > Herbert> behaviour without natbib. - supports the "before" input > Herbert> textfield in the gui - fixes

Re: natbib citations

2002-04-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> a diff which - gives wysiwyg natbib labels and standard Herbert> behaviour without natbib. - supports the "before" input Herbert> textfield in the gui - fixes another bug with familyName in Herbert> biblio.C Herbert, could you

Re: How to choose packages (was Re: Natbib)

2001-07-28 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 06:40:52PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Integrating all of this, maybe this hybrid solution would work: > > Provide a dialog which lists all the packages that the document > potentially need. For each package, the dialog will say which section > of CTAN the pa

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:24:29PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Here the first natbib is unnecessary, and ilegal. Also all the commas are wrong, just white space is enough. > > just as Lars said it should be > > >

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:24:29PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > > What we need is to have a text file that describes the options for all the > > latex packages, and using this text file lyx will build GUI dialogs. > > Nice idea. Pursuing it further, define the file format! For natbib, this is

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 16:05, Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 July 2001 15:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2001 15:44 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > > > > > What I mean is that things like sor

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 03:26:45PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Wednesday 25 July 2001 15:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2001 15:44 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > > > What I mean is that things like sort&compress should be supported > > > from the GUI, and be don

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Angus Leeming wrote: > No, it's easy enough and a nice idea. Keep hassling me. It will be a pleasure for me ;-) Jürgen > A

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 15:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2001 15:44 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > What I mean is that things like sort&compress should be supported > > from the GUI, and be done through natbib. > > Agreed, but do you think that it is possible to su

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-25 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 14:44, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > + > + // natbib.sty > + if (natbib) { > + string options("[]"); > + if (params.use_numerical_citations) > + options.insert(1, "numbers"); > + else > + o

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-25 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 25-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: [snip] > > mmm... I guess stringstream is not a win in this case. > or... [snip] Hmm if this were all the problems I give you my "Go" now Angus #:OP Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vi

Re: Natbib

2001-07-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2001 15:27 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Lars> I meant to say: "natbib or latex default" > > Oh yeah, sure, that's fine with me. If I want cite.sty, I'll just add > it to the preamble. But note that cite.s

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-24 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 24 July 2001 12:35, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | On Tuesday 24 July 2001 01:30, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > > | > | Well, now it's in head so just update and play. > | > > | > _That_

Re: Natbib

2001-07-24 Thread Herbert Voss
Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > Lars> But we cannot assume that the users will... > > > > Lars> - create new doc in LyX - export to LaTeX - hack on that --- can > > Lars> very well result in the %%%LyX regions changing - import into > > Lars> LyX --- los

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-24 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 24 July 2001 01:30, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Well, now it's in head so just update and play. > > _That_ was a bit premature! It's been a branch for 6 months! Anyway, I think that all works properly now and it seems that the only wa

Re: Natbib

2001-07-24 Thread Angus Leeming
> | Lars, since I'm blaming you for my confusion here (and maybe Jean-Marc too > | --- let's spread the muck-spreading around!) would you care to add your two > | agora (centimes) here please. > > Give me some code to comment on and I'll do so. Sorry, Lars. Got your national shrapnel mixed u

Re: Natbib

2001-07-24 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 24-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Lars> But we cannot assume that the users will... > > Lars> - create new doc in LyX - export to LaTeX - hack on that --- can > Lars> very well result in the %%%LyX regions changing - import into > Lars> LyX --- lost it... > > That's their problem. r

Re: Natbib

2001-07-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
> But we cannot assume that the users will... > > - create new doc in LyX > - export to LaTeX > - hack on that --- can very well result in the %%%LyX regions changing > - import into LyX --- lost it... But that's a good approximation of what happens when a LyX user and a LaTeX user collaborate

Re: Natbib

2001-07-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 23 July 2001 11:11, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> I am against that. The URL thing was added because we use \url in > >> LyX docs, but it is a bunch of crap (and I can tell that, since I > >> wrote it > > Angus> Grammati

Re: Natbib

2001-07-23 Thread Angus Leeming
> I am against that. The URL thing was added because we use \url in LyX > docs, but it is a bunch of crap (and I can tell that, since I wrote it Grammatical point: "pile of crap" is OK. "Bunch of crap" suggests some serious pathology! Angus

Re: Natbib

2001-07-23 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 23-Jul-2001 Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > It is done, all known lyx stuff is discarded in the translation... Great! Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/F

Re: Natbib

2001-07-23 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:57:39AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > Well this could be fairly easy! If we could have a %%lyx-produced around > this stuff it would be easy to skip it in the readback routine, as we KNOW > that this stuff was produced by LyX and we don't need to interpret it! > > BT

Re: Natbib

2001-07-23 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 23-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote: > that people won't be so happy to share with non-LyX users. Then we have > the problem of how on earth do reimport an exported lyx file? Well this could be fairly easy! If we could have a %%lyx-produced around this stuff it would be easy to skip it in the readb

Re: Natbib

2001-07-22 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Dekel Tsur wrote: > I'm not against the option of generating a latex code that doesn't use fancy > packages. However, I'm not sure that the best way is to have a dialog in which > you can disable each package individually. > One option is to have a --compatibility flag, namely

How to choose packages (was Re: Natbib)

2001-07-21 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Dekel Tsur wrote: > I'm not against the option of generating a latex code that doesn't use fancy > packages. However, I'm not sure that the best way is to have a dialog in which > you can disable each package individually. Why is this not the best way? I suppose it is becaus

Re: Natbib

2001-07-21 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 03:37:00PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > > > I don't see why you need to implement a feature which will rarely be used. > > > > Because it's fun? > > Because people do actually need this and use it now because we assume > internally that everything is available. Once prope

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2001 20:29 schrieb Dekel Tsur: > > And the good design is to have ALL packages in a dialog and be able > > what LaTeX code I want produce! AND this then should be honored by > > the LaTeX methods! In this dialog we would have a button to receck > > the LaTeX packages installe

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Allan Rae
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > > >> Well what about "Export as LaTeX" functionality??? > > > > So you want to use lyx on one machine, export to latex, and run latex on a > > second machine ? Why not do the lyx->latex conversion on the 2nd machine ?

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-20 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 20 July 2001 13:54, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > On Friday, 20. July 2001 10:56, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Could you fix this at your end please by playing with fdesign > > form_citation.fd. > > Hello Angus, > > I've done this in fdesign and editor. Now it fits almost perfectly into > t

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-20 Thread =?cp 1252?q?J=FCrgen=20Spitzm=FCller?=
On Friday, 20. July 2001 10:56, Angus Leeming wrote: > Could you fix this at your end please by playing with fdesign > form_citation.fd. Hello Angus, I've done this in fdesign and editor. Now it fits almost perfectly into the "poor man's 800x600 screen". I've attached the diff (no, I won't cal

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Herbert Voss
Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > > >> Well what about "Export as LaTeX" functionality??? > > > > So you want to use lyx on one machine, export to latex, and run latex on a > > second machine ? Why not do the lyx->latex conversion on the 2nd machine ? > > If you really

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: >> Well what about "Export as LaTeX" functionality??? > > So you want to use lyx on one machine, export to latex, and run latex on a > second machine ? Why not do the lyx->latex conversion on the 2nd machine ? > If you really need this feature, you can edit the

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:00:32PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 10:32:05AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > >> > >> The real reason is, not to, not use it, if you have it, but to use it, > >> if you don't have it! > > > > I still don'

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 10:32:05AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: >> >> The real reason is, not to, not use it, if you have it, but to use it, >> if you don't have it! > > I still don't understand: how can you use the longtable package if you > don't have it inst

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 10:32:05AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > The real reason is, not to, not use it, if you have it, but to use it, > if you don't have it! I still don't understand: how can you use the longtable package if you don't have it installed ?

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-20 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 19:17, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > On Thursday, 19. July 2001 16:17, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Well, now it's in head so just update and play. > > Angus > > Thanks, I got it now ;-) > > Looks great! A few comments, though: > > - Citation Dialog size is much better now, b

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 20-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > No. The other person should install the necessary packages (and most of the > packages we use are standard). Well it's friday, but here is a * very ironic smiley * >> But the real reason is not to not use it if you have it >> but to use it if you don't have i

Re: Natbib

2001-07-20 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 09:21:02AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > > > What I don't understand is why you don't want to use longtable (or other > > packages) if it is available ? > > Maybe you have to send the latex-file to someone you know and you know > he

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > What I don't understand is why you don't want to use longtable (or other > packages) if it is available ? Maybe you have to send the latex-file to someone you know and you know he has only a minimal LaTeX installation so you exclude some stuff. Could that be

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: >> Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the > buglist >> on SourceForge.net ;) > > I still think that this was a sly way to get help, but anyway I've played > further. #:O) Well you won't believe it but I know since a long ti

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 02:15:53PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 12:56:46PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > >> What if you don't have all extra super truper latest packages installed on > >> your actual machine but would like to be able

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-19 Thread =?cp 1252?q?J=FCrgen=20Spitzm=FCller?=
On Thursday, 19. July 2001 16:17, Angus Leeming wrote: > Well, now it's in head so just update and play. > Angus Thanks, I got it now ;-) Looks great! A few comments, though: - Citation Dialog size is much better now, but now a little bit too wide (about 1cm) for 800x600. Well, not really trag

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:50, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > > > Road test to infinite redraws: > > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width > > Well this is well known and as developer yo

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:50:43PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > > > Road test to infinite redraws: > > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width > > Well this is well known and as

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: > Road test to infinite redraws: > 1. Insert table, I row, 2 columns > 2. Type in first (leftmost) column until the table gets bigger than the width Well this is well known and as developer you should have looked at the buglist on SourceForge.net ;)

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:14, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > Think about the alternative - I add a lot of ert into the inset, so it is drawn off > > the side, and I can't even read it ! > > > > Surely we dont really have/want a choice in this circumstance. > >

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Angus Leeming wrote: >> Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get >> complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like! > > Well it seems like a good suggestion to me because it only affects the users The only change to the abo

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > Think about the alternative - I add a lot of ert into the inset, so it is drawn off > the side, and I can't even read it ! > > Surely we dont really have/want a choice in this circumstance. Well we have already the inset will scroll to the right if the cursor

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 16:08, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right margin > > of the workarea ? > > Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get > complaints a

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:08:12PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > > > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right >margin > > of the workarea ? > > Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 John Levon wrote: > can't you un-inline the ert inset automagically when it extends beyond the right >margin > of the workarea ? Probably yes, but do I want to do this? Probably no, as then I would get complaints about this automatic behaviour someone surely doesn't like!

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:21:51AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > > > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! > > I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we w

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-19 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 19 July 2001 12:21, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > On Wednesday, 18. July 2001 19:39, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Those willing to help save the CVS head repository from contamination > > with junk code should: > > > > cvs checkout -r BRANCH_NATBIB lyx-devel > > > > To get natbib support you

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 12:56:46PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: >> What if you don't have all extra super truper latest packages installed on >> your actual machine but would like to be able to preview at least normal text? >> >> Just check of that feature in th

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 12:56:46PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > What if you don't have all extra super truper latest packages installed on > your actual machine but would like to be able to preview at least normal text? > > Just check of that feature in the dialog, the resulting LaTeX will not u

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
On Wednesday, 18. July 2001 19:39, Angus Leeming wrote: > Those willing to help save the CVS head repository from contamination > with junk code should: > > cvs checkout -r BRANCH_NATBIB lyx-devel > > To get natbib support you'll need to set some parameters in the > Document->Extra tab > It

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > I still don't understand this. > For example, what does lyx is supposed to do when you "diable longtable" ? > Should it forbid you from inserting longtables ? What about longtables which > were already present in the document ? > > If you don't want to use the

Re: Natbib

2001-07-19 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 12:11:59AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >> And the good design is to have ALL packages in a dialog and be able > >> what LaTeX code I want produce! AND this then should be honored by > >> the LaTeX methods! In this dialog we would have a button to receck > >> the La

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 19-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > > > like a math inset would be fine. Maybe that is the model: an inlined ERT > > box and a "display" ERT box, for longer chunks of LaTeX code. > > That's exactly what we plan to do :) Excellent! Why didn't you just s

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 19-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > like a math inset would be fine. Maybe that is the model: an inlined ERT > box and a "display" ERT box, for longer chunks of LaTeX code. That's exactly what we plan to do :) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-19 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! > > I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change > the InsetERT to

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 18-Jul-2001 Mike Ressler wrote: > This is not a stunning example of WYSIWYM. Please, please, (Lars?) change > the appearance back to the old behavior!!! I don't think this will happen. What will happen is that we will change the InsetERT to be inlined. What will NOT happen is that a inlined

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Garst R. Reese
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > This info should probably be kept in the document. > > JMarc I think you are right here, but I a few times went through the nightmare of submitting essentially the same paper to a British journal, an American journal and a Canadian journal for consideration. Ther

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And the good design is to have ALL packages in a dialog and be able >> what LaTeX code I want produce! AND this then should be honored by >> the LaTeX methods! In this dialog we would have a button to receck >> the LaTeX packages installe

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:05:42PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > And John, clicking on MathPanel Greek killed LyX for me also, so it is > probably not your xforms. hmm. I've tried it against an xforms with /definitely/ the right glibc and still get the problem too. I'll have to see what's going

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Garst R. Reese
John Levon wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > > > That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first > > yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice > again, but with out re-introducing latex font m

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:49:45AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > That said, I want to gripe about the 666 insets, since this is the first yes, everyone has this gripe. Lars and Juergen are doing things to get it nice again, but with out re-introducing latex font mode (something that needs updatin

Re: Natbib announcement (and 666 inset gripes)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Ressler
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Angus Leeming wrote: > I believe that the NATBIB branch is now in a fit state to merge back into > head. This is now your final chance to try it out before I completely screw > up the CVS head by rolling the branch back in ;-) Woo hoo!!! Yes! Grabbed it, compiled it, already

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:27:37PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 18-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > Currently, LyX does not have a way to tell which packages are > > installed. This would just need to read back the packages.lst file and > > have a couple methods to query it. I th

Re: Natbib announcement

2001-07-18 Thread Angus Leeming
Oh, I forgot: An Edit-.Reconfigure probably wouldn't go amiss, although I'm not sure that you need to do so... Angus On Wednesday 18 July 2001 18:39, Angus Leeming wrote: > Dear all, > > I believe that the NATBIB branch is now in a fit state to merge back into > head. This is now your final c

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Angus Leeming
Thanks all for the input. I conclude from it that for the time being my requirements are: 1. A check box "Use natbib" in the document dialog. Got that already. 2. A validate method for InsetCitation so that usepackage{natbib} is included only when required. To do now. That's i

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> And the good design is to have ALL packages in a dialog and Juergen> be able what LaTeX code I want produce! AND this then should Juergen> be honored by the LaTeX methods! In this dialog we would have Juergen> a button to recec

Re: Natbib

2001-07-18 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 18-Jul-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Currently, LyX does not have a way to tell which packages are > installed. This would just need to read back the packages.lst file and > have a couple methods to query it. I thin kthe official way until this > is done (and well designed) is to have a

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