Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> There is also a bug that I never filed :) Insert>File is dead >> broken. Juergen> In which respect? I am glad you ask. Look at BufferView::Pimpl::MenuInsertLyXFile. There it does b

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > There is also a bug that I never filed :) Insert>File is dead broken. In which respect? Jürgen

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > | > Angus> In Python, you can write: unicode(string,'latex+latin1') > | > Angus> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/252124 > | > | > Angus> so I guess that we could def

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: | > Angus> In Python, you can write: unicode(string,'latex+latin1') | > Angus> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/252124 | | > Angus> so I guess that we could define a similar converter and pop up | > Ang

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Angus> In Python, you can write: unicode(string,'latex+latin1') > Angus> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/252124 > Angus> so I guess that we could define a similar converter and pop up > Angus> an error box if a character cannot be converted. >

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> In Python, you can write: unicode(string,'latex+latin1') Angus> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/252124 Angus> so I guess that we could define a similar converter and pop up Angus> an error box if a character

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Lars> I am currently looking hard at the ICU library, and even if I Lars> don't like the api super well, I think this will reduce the Lars> effort we will have to put in tremendously. The only question I have is: how do we handle the conversion from/to LaTeX notation?

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I am currently looking hard at the ICU library, and even if I Lars> don't like the api super well, I think this will reduce the Lars> effort we will have to put in tremendously. The only question I have is: how do we handle the

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 02:45:50PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One other options is to make LyX truly be a Qt app (I am not sure that > I really like this), and use the Unicode support therein) I would take a huge burden off our sholders in quite

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Angus Leeming wrote: > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> I think one year is too much, and we should try to make it happen >> faster than that. (At least get basic support for Unicode in rather >> fast and then use some time to refine it) >> >> I am currently looking hard at the ICU library, and ev

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I think one year is too much, and we should try to make it happen > faster than that. (At least get basic support for Unicode in rather > fast and then use some time to refine it) > > I am currently looking hard at the ICU library, and even if I don't > like the api

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I am no fan of big branches, neither with CVS nor with SVN. SVN makes | branching a bit simpler, though. And way faster... and all merging is way easier. No fiddling with tags... | In any case, I support Lars' idea of one big feature per release, | i.e

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:54:17AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > I'd hope that, by restricting ourselves to only one big feature per > > release, maintaining the branches will be bearable. > > How is that with SVN? Easier? I am no fan of big branches, neither with CVS nor with SVN. SVN makes b

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Jose' Matos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Tuesday 04 October 2005 08:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > Sorry for begin so grumpy. I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never | > happens and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. | > | > Trice will improve I guess. | | So, when do you expect

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > Hmm. Tried to use, say, pybliographer, with LyX recently? I know > that I haven't, but I also know that I changed the lfun to insert a > citation, so would be surprised if it did work... This is bug 2071 now. http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2071 Jürgen

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Fine. I am pretty sure that Helges problem is some half up to Georg> date tree, so I'd like to commit this patch. If it turns out Georg> that it still has problems we can still revert to the old Georg> behaviour, but since the work has

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 08:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Sorry for begin so grumpy. I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never > happens and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. > > Trice will improve I guess. So, when do you expect pre2 to be out? That was what I tried to ask several we

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 16:37, Bo Peng wrote: > > How is that with SVN? Easier? > > > > - Martin > > Yes. Much easier. With natural rename, move and many more features, > version control with SVN is no longer intimidating. I would highly > recommend that lyx moves to svn after 1.4.0. That is

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Bo Peng
> How is that with SVN? Easier? > > - Martin Yes. Much easier. With natural rename, move and many more features, version control with SVN is no longer intimidating. I would highly recommend that lyx moves to svn after 1.4.0. Bo

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:18:38PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 03:26:01PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > >> Yes. The reason is the broken lib/doc/Makefile.am. I wait for the results > >> of your tests of TOC3.diff :-) > > > > Yes. That patch fix

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Georg Baum
Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 03:26:01PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: >> Yes. The reason is the broken lib/doc/Makefile.am. I wait for the results >> of your tests of TOC3.diff :-) > > Yes. That patch fixes it. It seems fine to me. Using automake-1.9.5 > on Redhat Fedora Core 4.

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 03:26:01PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > > > BTW, currently, my daily builds are failing. Has anyone been looking > > at my messages re: "make rpmdist" failures? > > Yes. The reason is the broken lib/doc/Makefile.am. I wait for the results of > your

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Georg Baum
Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: > BTW, currently, my daily builds are failing. Has anyone been looking > at my messages re: "make rpmdist" failures? Yes. The reason is the broken lib/doc/Makefile.am. I wait for the results of your tests of TOC3.diff :-) Georg

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:11:43AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > I suppose that a binary release would be too much work to support, but > > from my use of the pmwiki engine (where new updates appear once or twice a > > week), I've found it very convenient to simply use 'cvs update'. > > Kayvan buil

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There are only two critical bugs in bugzilla now, both targeting >> 1.3. Juergen> And only two majors (for 1.4), from which for both patches Juergen> exist (and one is not even a regression). Juergen> I think after those have

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Angus Leeming
Martin Vermeer wrote: >> I think that we should address the fundamental problem with all >> this in future work. At the start of the next development cycle, we >> should have a discussion of what one big feature we want in the >> next release. We should then allow only changes to HEAD related to >>

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Georg Baum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think the important question is how/if the file format might change from > 1.4-alpha to 1.4-proper. LyX is *very* highly regarded in my mind because > I've rarely (if ever!) lost data using it. As a user, *I* wouldn't worry > too much about spurious crashes and missing

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > Hmm. Tried to use, say, pybliographer, with LyX recently? No. > I know > that I haven't, but I also know that I changed the lfun to insert a > citation, so would be surprised if it did work... Well, then file a bug report, please :-P Jürgen

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread chr
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Angus Leeming wrote: > > I think after those have been fixed, and probably after the speedup > > aims have been reached, you could consider a more public beta. > > > > Jürgen > > Hmm. Tried to use, say, pybliographer, with LyX recently? I know > that I haven't, but I also

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 09:38 +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Sorry for begin so grumpy. > > You're not grumpy. You're just thirty-something. > > > I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never happens > > We bit off far too much in this development cycle IMO. > > > and that I

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Sorry for begin so grumpy. You're not grumpy. You're just thirty-something. > I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never happens We bit off far too much in this development cycle IMO. > and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. You're just thirty-something. > Tri

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Angus Leeming
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: >> > Sorry for begin so grumpy. I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never >> > happens and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. >> >> Well yes... 1.4 should really happen soon now. I'm beginning to be >> hopeful: many ugly bugs fixed, speed is

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Sorry for begin so grumpy. I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never > > happens and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. > > Well yes... 1.4 should really happen soon now. I'm beginning to be > hopeful: many ugly bugs fixed, speed is coming up to speed... I think so, t

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 09:32 +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Sorry for begin so grumpy. I am a bit frustrated that 1.4 never > happens and that I have no time to do real work on LyX. Well yes... 1.4 should really happen soon now. I'm beginning to be hopeful: many ugly bugs fixed, speed is comin