Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:23:29AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > Thinking a bit more about it, maybe the code could be arranged such that > > to not have hardcoded the normal size. Say we look at the size of a > > particular icon and then set normalIconSize accor

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-21 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:23:29AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > Thinking a bit more about it, maybe the code could be arranged such that > to not have hardcoded the normal size. Say we look at the size of a > particular icon and then set normalIconSize according to its size. In this > way, an

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:15:01AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > Well, I disagree on both the move to 22x22 standard size and the new > proposed icons. As it seems everyone else is fine with both issues, I will > arrange to have my personal copy with 20x20 icons whose look is as in the > attac

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rob Oakes wrote: > > can somebody post list of layout changes so we can see whether there > > is consensus about them? > > Here is the toolbars file I put together (or, at least the one I use). > > This post from the original UI discussion has the rationale for the > layout: > > http://www.mail

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rob Oakes wrote: > > > can somebody post list of layout changes so we can see whether there > > is consensus about them? > > Here is the toolbars file I put together (or, at least the one I use). i meant list of changes or screenshot, so we have it at this place. pavel

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Rob Oakes
> can somebody post list of layout changes so we can see whether there > is consensus about them? Here is the toolbars file I put together (or, at least the one I use). This post from the original UI discussion has the rationale for the layout: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.o

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Joost Verburg wrote: > "Edwin Leuven" wrote in message > news:aanlktikf5+pazt7uj+cga+wkt1kj+3hpsc_xfpkkg...@mail.gmail.com... >> imo, 4 good reasons to go for it now > > I agree. Updating the icons and toolbar together makes much more sense. > If we put it in now, there's enough time left for fin

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Joost Verburg wrote: > "Pavel Sanda" wrote in message > news:20110319155427.gd25...@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... >> ok, so at this moment we know the new default is going to be oxygen. > > Should I upload the new icons? the question is about location in the tree if we are going to have more sets.

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Edwin Leuven" wrote in message news:aanlktikf5+pazt7uj+cga+wkt1kj+3hpsc_xfpkkg...@mail.gmail.com... imo, 4 good reasons to go for it now I agree. Updating the icons and toolbar together makes much more sense. If we put it in now, there's enough time left for fine tuning. Joost

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Edwin Leuven
Georg Baum wrote: > I personally like the new toolbars much better 1. my guess is that most of us like it much better 2. moreover, doing it now will give us real feedback to tweak it 3. we don't need major releases to update the toolbar layout 4. and 2.0 introduces many new features so timing

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Pavel Sanda" wrote in message news:20110319155427.gd25...@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... ok, so at this moment we know the new default is going to be oxygen. Should I upload the new icons? Joost

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Edwin Leuven
> Edwin, can you share the current state of art of libre office icons? > i dont remember how much remained to be done. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/359550/images.zip ed.

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Georg Baum wrote: > > Me. This will end up like the "classic.ui" thing which is more or less > > unmaintained. > > If that is really the case they could be removed again. I liked the idea of > treating them like translations: If an icon set is too incomplete it gets > removed. As long as Pavel a

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-20 Thread Georg Baum
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: >> 1. new layout was proposed by Rob. who agrees/disagrees with this? > > I think it needs very careful auditing with regard to different workflow > scenarios. This has not happened yet, so I am against putting it in now. While I personally like the

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > now means "right now" or for 2.0? For 2.0. > what you mean by auditing? you must perfectly know that there was never any > deep auditing of LyX UI and we have no ui professionals among devs - this > is effectively equivalent to saying no ;) IMHO this comes too late for 2.0.

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-19 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > 1. new layout was proposed by Rob. who agrees/disagrees with this? > > I think it needs very careful auditing with regard to different workflow > scenarios. This has not happened yet, so I am against putting it in now. now means "right now" or f

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > 1. new layout was proposed by Rob. who agrees/disagrees with this? I think it needs very careful auditing with regard to different workflow scenarios. This has not happened yet, so I am against putting it in now. > 2. some people won't be happy with icons change and there wa

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-19 Thread Pavel Sanda
Edwin Leuven wrote: > i did not manage to find the svg sources, and don't have the time to > fi ish this on my own > > imo we should give lyx a facelift with the oxygen icons and i also > think rob's new toolbar layout is a good idea ok, so at this moment we know the new default is going to be ox

Re: Final round for UI changes (was: Towards rc2)

2011-03-19 Thread Edwin Leuven
i did not manage to find the svg sources, and don't have the time to fi ish this on my own imo we should give lyx a facelift with the oxygen icons and i also think rob's new toolbar layout is a good idea ed. On 2011-03-19, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Pavel Sanda wrote: >>