On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:44:47AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>
> On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> >| 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there
> >|would be two different ways of adding Latex.
>
> I'm still of the opinion that this is a "artifical" e
On 24-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>| 4) Lars does not like adding the Latex layout back in because there
>|would be two different ways of adding Latex.
I'm still of the opinion that this is a "artifical" excuse.
>| * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small fi
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Well we could, but I really don't know if this is needed. I made this more
> for longer paragraphs with LaTeX code as for shorter one I'll make the
> inlined version so that it doesn't collapse, but it will show it's contents
^^^
Ah, yes ..
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | * Add the Latex layout back in via the PassThru flag in a small file
> | (lib/layouts/latex-layout.inc).
> |
> | * Remove the ERT inset and all the backwards compatibility loading and
> | writing stuff.
> |
> | This fur
> Mike Ressler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I've just compiled the current CVS and like the "666 inset" behavior much
> better - collapsing them looks good. However, could the maximum size of
> the box be made settable somewhere? From my previous example, "\micron"
> shows up very nicely, as
On 17-Jul-2001 R. Lahaye wrote:
> A window like the math-panel could help out here.
> Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the [666] insets style.
Sure this would be a good idea IMO and we would also need the grafical
representation then we just could add specialchar-insets for any of
Lars Gullik Bjřnnes wrote:
>
> \oe not in latin1
> \o is 'ř' 'Ř'
> \l not in latin1
> \SS is 'ß'
Black Magic!
> We do not have good support for the unaccented special chars.
A window like the math-panel could help out here.
Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the [666] insets style.
"R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| >
| > "R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | Where "A" is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol?
| >
| > Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively "accent-circle A"
|
| Great! Didn't know that!
|
| Ho
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> "R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | Where "A" is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol?
>
> Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively "accent-circle A"
Great! Didn't know that!
How do I squeeze such funny characters as 'Å' out of my simple ke
"R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Hi,
|
| Sorry to bring this issue up again; I had a look at the long thread of this topic
| and could follow/understand only a very few of them.
|
| My question is still: What is the LyX way of typing
|
|"This is 2 A in size."
|
| Where "A" is
Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a
> > "one-liner" in LyX.
>
> You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing "Lars bashing"...
Should I learn from this reply that in LyX WYSIWYM
"This is 2 A apart."
will not anymore fit on one line (A as the A
> Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a
> "one-liner" in LyX.
You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing "Lars bashing"...
Andre'
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Hi,
Sorry to bring this issue up again; I had a look at the long thread of this topic
and could follow/understand only a very few of them.
My question is still: What is the LyX way of typing
"This is 2 A in size."
Where "A" is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol?
I now use in texm
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:06:21AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Kayvan" == Kayvan A Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Kayvan> Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a
> Kayvan> certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up
> Kayvan> as red.
> "Kayvan" == Kayvan A Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kayvan> Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a
Kayvan> certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up
Kayvan> as red.
Use in the font definition
Color red
or even
Color latex
although I'm not
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote:
> > That's the reason why I liked to have the support for latex font (to
> > be changed to a paragraph layout property, of course) in Paragraph
> > (just the caracter passthrough and ignore fonts stuff).
>
> With the ve
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion?
>> What about using the hyphenation special inset for that?
Andre> Convincing argument.
Andre> And what about "= ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...})
This will not wor
On 10-Jul-2001 Eran Tromer wrote:
> But these are mere trifles, now that LyX starts with Juergen's new
> development banner... :-)
We like to have visual feedback of a "lived" Developer's meeting ;)
Jürgen
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On 09-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote:
> Why not always draw the inset inlined?
> If the user wants, he can put the inset in a paragraph of its own.
Well this is easy to answer! Inlined TextInsets can not break row! So
you would have to write all your LaTeX code in one row, this may be nice
for some
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> It has never been supported, it has just happened to work by chance.
> And you can continue to use it, just don't complain when it breaks.
Well we just have to remember it Lars. When we do "old document read" that
if we get to an inset in LaTeX mode w
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:07:56PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 19:44 schrieb Herbert Voss:
> > Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > > Konni has just discovered the new "feature".
> > > It sounds as she does not like it...
> > > ... it still sound that way...
> >
> > greetings
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 19:44 schrieb Herbert Voss:
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > Konni has just discovered the new "feature".
> > It sounds as she does not like it...
> > ... it still sound that way...
>
> greetings to her, because it's the same with me.
> i have a lot of texts with a lot of diff
Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> Konni has just discovered the new "feature".
> It sounds as she does not like it...
> ... it still sound that way...
greetings to her, because it's the same with me.
i have a lot of texts with a lot of different tex-stuff
and it's annoying with the new "feature" ...
Her
> Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion?
>
> What about using the hyphenation special inset for that?
Convincing argument.
And what about "= ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...})
> Andre> And what about the red color in math?
>
> Andre> Should I fake it simply by
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Konni has just discovered the new "feature". It sounds as she
Andre> does not like it... ... it still sound that way...
Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion?
What about using the hyphenation special inse
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 11:56 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what
> Lars alluded to). In fact, the right way to break an hyphentation is
> \texcompwordmark{} (and probably a nifty "| or whatever in german
> babel). In fact, I was r
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: | | I think
Lars> \emph has nothing to do here (?)
Lars> no, ... only with italic correction.
And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what
Lars alluded to)
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> Lars> The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout"
> Lars> at all is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it
> Lars> is not really needed.
>
> Howerver, we have to work out a reasonable way
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > Then I opt to not have a "LaTeX" style at all, and stay with the
| > compability convertion and a "Insert ERT" button.
| >
| > The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout" at all
| > is to have it working in a similar way
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |
Lars> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | |
Lars> Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to
Lars> allow | Lars> definitions of
>
> Then I opt to not have a "LaTeX" style at all, and stay with the
> compability convertion and a "Insert ERT" button.
>
> The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout" at all
> is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it is not really
> needed.
How about Litera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes:
|
| I think \emph has nothing to do here (?)
no, ... only with italic correction.
--
Lgb
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow
| Lars> definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to
| Lars> be able to run lfuns from the
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 10:31 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> > "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> \/ - we should have support for this
> Jürgen> Totally agreed.
> In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat.
I use it to produce correct li
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> \/ - we should have support for this
Jürgen> Totally agreed.
In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat.
JMarc
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow
Lars> definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to
Lars> be able to run lfuns from the layout files. (rather to bind
Lars> lfuns to layout styles.
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dekel> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:58:53PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller
Dekel> wrote:
>> On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > \, -
>> should be supported in LyX Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26
>> for this
>> (http
Hi,
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> I have done some changes to the compability code and it would be nice
> if those of you seeing problems you check and report again.
Yippy!
Both the label and \newline issues look fine now.
A couple of new ones. The attached ert4-{old,new}.lyx show these
problems
"Garst R. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
|
| > Do you mean how to insert it?
| >
| > M-x ert-insert
| > currently.
| Thanks.
We will bind it of course.
| > Can you send me the unconverted document for this book template too?
| I don't know what you mean by un
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Do you mean how to insert it?
>
> M-x ert-insert
> currently.
Thanks.
> And the ert inset is not new, it has been in the code for almost a
> year.
>
> | Attached is a short file that is a template of all of ERT I use in
> | setting up a book. I am now clueless as h
"Garst R. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| >
| > Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > | There are also several small bugs with the ERT-inset (e.g. the text in a new
| > | ERT inset is black and not red), and fixing them takes time, which could
| > | have sp
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | There are also several small bugs with the ERT-inset (e.g. the text in a new
> | ERT inset is black and not red), and fixing them takes time, which could
> | have spent elsewhere.
>
> I'd say that with this change we are f
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:45:02PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> | One problem with using the ERT-inset for scrap, is that when you have a
> | compilation error, the error box will appear just before the inset begin,
> | and not in the correct line inside the inset. But this is a general
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:45:02PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> | It does make sense if you want to have indented latex code.
>
> What I'd really like to have it some kind of "editor" inset that the
> InsetERT could build upon instead of the InsetText that is a lot more
> complicated th
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 07:03:19PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> >
> > Well no IMO this can not be resolved in an automatic manner (just to much
> > overhead, but we can have this as an option in the InsetERT. We may also
> > remove the drawing of the label in the inlined version, if that is desider
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> rather a problem with how we place the error boxes.
You mean, "all over the place"? Even in the absence of floats or large
insets, errors sometime show up a few pages too early, and sometimes *in
the the wrong order*. Plus their dialog box doesn't give enough context
Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | Why?
| > | The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great
| > | feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | Why?
> | The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great
> | feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use doesn't mean that it shouldn't
> | be supported any
Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Why?
| The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great
| feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use doesn't mean that it shouldn't
| be supported anymore.
It has never been supported, it has just happened to work by chance.
And y
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:27:05PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> LyX is not an tex-editor, and using tex-mode has always been: "The
> user is now on his own". Several users (and developers) have taken
> advantage and misused tex-mode for different purposes (float placemnet
> f.ex.)
I don't
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:58:53PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> > \, - should be supported in LyX
> Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 for this
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg23855.html)
We also n
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On 09-Jul-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote:
| >> We REALLY don't want a "frustrated" Lgb! #:O)
| >
| > We don't really want frustrated users either.
|
| Well you surely not, I can understand that! #:OP
But it is a little bit moot to begin talking about frust
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> bad example since you are trying to use mathed in side a tex-mode...
> this was never supposed to word and did so only by chance.
And it will crash right now :). I'll commit a change soon which will fix
this! BTW.: I completely agree with Lars here. O
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> I am not sure if that is really "good".
>
> What people use "micor-ert" for today most often something that we
> really should have direct support for in LyX.
Well but we don't and probably won't be able to do so for a long time.
So IMO it's easy to r
On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:03, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> The "666" was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the
> removal of the LaTeX-font-attribute)!
And of course I do accept your decision! I'm not "requesting"
something, I only try to help you by providing you a different view:
hum
On 09-Jul-2001 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:03, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>> The "666" was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the
>> removal of the LaTeX-font-attribute)!
>
> And of course I do accept your decision! I'm not "requesting"
> something, I only try
On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> \, - should be supported in LyX
Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 for this
(http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg23855.html)
> '\ ' - I thought we already supported this somehwo
IMHO not. Only ~ (protected spac
Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > That is not a bug, it is a feature.
| >
| > tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
|
| I have to say that I don't like it.
Why? Because you cannot use LyX as an tex-editor as easily any
On 09-Jul-2001 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> I really like the new ERT (sorry: 666) Inset, but as I mentioned in an
The "666" was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the removal
of the LaTeX-font-attribute)!
> earlier message, its major disadavantage are the small LaTeX-commands
> i
On 09-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote:
> I have to say that I don't like it.
> For example, suppose I want to have \foo{$x$}.
As said in my earlier mail this is really easy to realize!
> 1. When the inset is closed, the label is the first few char of the inset
> contents.
> 2. When the inset is open
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes:
| On Monday, 9. July 2001 09:13, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
| This made me so curious that I downloaded and installed CVS for the
| first time...
| I really like the new ERT (sorry: 666) Inset, but as I mention
On Monday, 9. July 2001 09:13, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
This made me so curious that I downloaded and installed CVS for the
first time...
I really like the new ERT (sorry: 666) Inset, but as I mentioned in an
earlier message, its major disadavantage are the
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> That is not a bug, it is a feature.
>
> tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
I have to say that I don't like it.
For example, suppose I want to have \foo{$x$}.
Previously, I could do ctrl+l \foo{ ctrl+m x } ctrl+l
Now, I need t
> _if_ mathed tex-mode uses the lyxfont::latex then it must go at once.
> It mathed tex-mode is _not_ using it, it can be allowed back in.
>
> Can you snoop around and see what the state is?
It uses
f.setLatex(LyXFont::ON)
which looks like the thing you want to ban, but I thing it would be
s
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 10:12:06AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | > the label name.
> | > In the layout format we need to be able to give a lfun to run when
> | > selected (you won't easily be able to move away from this envir
> | > though).
> | >
> | > "ert-insert scrap"
> | >
> | > and
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:45:18AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > "Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > | > | Great. How about the Scraps that use T
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > | So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.?
| > |
| > | It currently displays as "math text" which is not exactly what people are
| > | used to...
| >
| > all text in 'tex-mode' should be in an inset. For all other places
| >
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:45:18AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> "Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | > | Great. How about the Scraps that use TeX mode? Where's the solution
> | > | for that?
> | >
> |
> | So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.?
> |
> | It currently displays as "math text" which is not exactly what people are
> | used to...
>
> all text in 'tex-mode' should be in an inset. For all other places
> than mathed this is '666', do mathed need a new mathinse
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > | Great. How about the Scraps that use TeX mode? Where's the solution
| > | for that?
| >
| > I am thinking about it...
| >
| > - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | Great. How about the Scraps that use TeX mode? Where's the solution
> | for that?
>
> I am thinking about it...
>
> - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs to '666', but that is not
> a nice solution.
>
> - second o
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > That is not a bug, it is a feature.
| >
| > tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
|
| So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.?
|
| It currently displays as "math text" which is not exactly what people are
| used to...
all text
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| > "R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | Hi,
| > |
| > | I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document
| > | all inlined math equations have a grey b
> That is not a bug, it is a feature.
>
> tex-mode is dead. Long live '666'
So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.?
It currently displays as "math text" which is not exactly what people are
used to...
Andre'
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On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> "R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | Hi,
> |
> | I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document
> | all inlined math equations have a grey box with [666] prefixed.
> |
> | I also have the [666] boxes a
"R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Hi,
|
| I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document
| all inlined math equations have a grey box with [666] prefixed.
|
| I also have the [666] boxes around a TeX mbox inside a footnote.
|
| This bug must have been introduced during th
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