Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rob Oakes wrote: > One last thought. I think LyX should strive for excellent UI design, > regardless of platform. There are certain aspects to Mac OS X, for example > that are pointless (like the worthless green maximize button). I think it > makes sense to avoid propagating UI anachronisms, s

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread Rob Oakes
Dear LyX Developers, I had a couple of thoughts that I wanted to share. First, I actually prefer docked widgets to floating. This us how Scrivener works and it offers a vastly superior experience to MS Word or Pages. A second point worth considering: it seems that "docked widgets" or co

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 05/04/2010 16:02, BH wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: No, I think your proposal to unify spellchecking, advanced find, and outline as docked widgets on all platforms is good. But I think it's more important for applications on Mac to act like Ma

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread BH
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >>> No, I think your proposal to unify spellchecking, advanced find, >>> and outline as docked widgets on all platforms is good. >>> >> >> But I think it's more important for applications on Mac to act like >> Mac applications, for which doc

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 05/04/2010 14:59, BH wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: On 05/04/2010 14:44, BH wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Abdelrazak Youneswrote: So what I propose is that widgets like spellchecking, advanced find, and outline should default

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread BH
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > On 05/04/2010 14:44, BH wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Abdelrazak Younes  wrote: >> So what I propose is that widgets like spellchecking, advanced find, and outline should default to docked widgets, in the same

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 05/04/2010 14:44, BH wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: So what I propose is that widgets like spellchecking, advanced find, and outline should default to docked widgets, in the same places they appear for other systems. (I'm unsure whether it's better to hav

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread BH
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > On 04/04/2010 03:55, BH wrote: >> >> I've been using trunk for real work recently, partly to test what >> works best for widgets. Here's what I think: >> >> The main principle I think we should follow on Mac, with its >> 1-document-per-win

Re: LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 04/04/2010 03:55, BH wrote: I've been using trunk for real work recently, partly to test what works best for widgets. Here's what I think: The main principle I think we should follow on Mac, with its 1-document-per-window paradigm is to make sure that interface elements that pertain only to a

LyX 2.0: Mac widgets

2010-04-03 Thread BH
I've been using trunk for real work recently, partly to test what works best for widgets. Here's what I think: The main principle I think we should follow on Mac, with its 1-document-per-window paradigm is to make sure that interface elements that pertain only to a particular document in some way

Re: Mac widgets

2010-03-11 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 03/12/2010 04:57 AM, BH wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: I'm not sure if you've already implemented these changes. If so, I don't see any effect and thought it worth reporting that. If not, well ... I'll just wait until you do. No hurry. BH

Re: Mac widgets

2010-03-11 Thread BH
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > >> I'm not sure if you've already implemented these changes. If so, I >> don't see any effect and thought it worth reporting that. >> >> If not, well ... I'll just wait until you do. No hurry. >> >> BH >> > > I've committed some chan

Re: Mac widgets

2010-03-11 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
I'm not sure if you've already implemented these changes. If so, I don't see any effect and thought it worth reporting that. If not, well ... I'll just wait until you do. No hurry. BH I've committed some changes in http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33716. - No more Drawers, - ProgressView

RE: Mac widgets

2010-03-09 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW >> wrote: Perhaps the best course of action is to adopt this proposal and see >>> whether we get any complaints during the pre-release process. >>> >>> I agree. >>> >>> Vincent > >I'm not sure if you've already implemented t

Re: Mac widgets

2010-03-09 Thread BH
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM, BH wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW > wrote: >>>Perhaps the best course of action is to adopt this proposal and see >> whether we >>>get any complaints during the pre-release process. >> >> I agree. >> >> Vincent I'm not sure

Re: Mac widgets

2010-03-05 Thread BH
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: >>Yes, and I appreciate your offer of help. But "how the average mac user > likes it" >>is partly the question. I can say how I'd like to see it, a view that's > largely informed >>by looking at Apple's applications (as models fo

RE: Mac widgets

2010-03-05 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>Yes, and I appreciate your offer of help. But "how the average mac user likes it" >is partly the question. I can say how I'd like to see it, a view that's largely informed >by looking at Apple's applications (as models for the "average mac user"?); >perhaps others will disagree. > >Here's my view:

Mac widgets

2010-03-05 Thread BH
Moving this to a separate thread >>Things are looking reasonably good on Mac. It needs some polish, and I > think we >>need to make a decision about whether various widgets (outline, > spellchecker, >>source view, messages) should be docked, floating, or drawers on Mac. > But that, >>of course