Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-13 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:54:42 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > Le 13/02/2020 à 14:44, Stephan Witt a écrit : > > The patch I’ve posted was a workaround for elder TeX installations. > > If we decide to require a TeX installation with footnotehyper this > > may be reasonable but it’s not so eas

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 13/02/2020 à 14:44, Stephan Witt a écrit : The patch I’ve posted was a workaround for elder TeX installations. If we decide to require a TeX installation with footnotehyper this may be reasonable but it’s not so easy to see. I cannot tell what the right answer is. For the record I cannot com

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-13 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 07.02.2020 um 10:13 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 15:27 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: >> IMO it’s caused by a bad "no-break space“ character in sub-section >> 3.9.2 Dashes and Line Breaks > > That's the sort of information I am trying to gather from you. > > In a

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, den 07.02.2020, 10:39 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Do not forget the obligatory bottles of Bourgogne and Champagne. :-) Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 07/02/2020 à 10:11, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 17:12 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: As non-french who would write french documents I would find installing all french-related stuff in one package acceptable. That's like: You want to have some Bordeaux with your din

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 15:27 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: > IMO it’s caused by a bad "no-break space“ character in sub-section > 3.9.2 Dashes and Line Breaks That's the sort of information I am trying to gather from you. In any case, we have introduced footnotehyper for a reason, so it will

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 17:12 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > As non-french who would write french documents > I would > find installing all french-related stuff in one package acceptable. That's like: You want to have some Bordeaux with your dinner? OK, but then you need to reserve the French s

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 03:10:17PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > I don't have really opinion about this, knowing very little about texlive > > packaging, I don't even understand why is all-language-related-stuff into > > single package stupid, hence I won't be able to explain myself to packa

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 05.02.2020 um 15:08 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 12:40 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > > Thus I rephrase my question: Did you check that you get no other errors > > (caused by the hyperref/footnote incompatibility) if you simply omit > > footnotehyper? > > Yes I did

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 13:06 Uhr schrieb Pavel Sanda : > I don't have really opinion about this, knowing very little about texlive > packaging, I don't even understand why is all-language-related-stuff into > single package stupid, hence I won't be able to explain myself to packagers > either :)

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 12:40 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > > Thus I rephrase my question: Did you check that you get no other errors > (caused by the hyperref/footnote incompatibility) if you simply omit > footnotehyper? > > Yes I did. I get other errors with input encodings. > Do this depend on

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 10:24:12AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > So instead of reporting missing dependency we would need to ask for > > restructuring the packaging, which is I am afraid too long shot. > > > > Why not? I mean, this packaging structure is plain stupid. I don't have really o

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 05.02.2020 um 11:53 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 11:11 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > I’m no expert for these things. But a normal user wants to see the users > guide and not errors. > > Thus I rephrase my question: Did you check that you get no other errors > (cau

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 11:11 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > I’m no expert for these things. But a normal user wants to see the users > guide and not errors. > Thus I rephrase my question: Did you check that you get no other errors (caused by the hyperref/footnote incompatibility) if you simply omi

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 05.02.2020 um 10:57 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 10:53 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > Yes, I’m sure. Because it’s already broken for missing footnotehyper package. > > This does not mean that it doesn't break without footnotehyper. > > Rather than just omitting footn

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 10:53 Uhr schrieb Stephan Witt : > Yes, I’m sure. Because it’s already broken for missing footnotehyper > package. This does not mean that it doesn't break without footnotehyper. Rather than just omitting footnotehyper, it might be necessary to omit footnote (or hyperref

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 05.02.2020 um 07:02 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 00:32 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: >> Yes, but LyX can test for footnotehyper's presence with >> isAvailable(). >> Patch attached, ok? > > Are you sure docs do not break with hyperref and plain footnote > package?

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 05.02.2020 um 09:15 schrieb mn : > > On 05.02.20 00:22, Stephan Witt wrote: > >>> Alternatively, just try this: >>> http://ftp.lyx.de/Documentation/en/UserGuide.pdf (2.3.3) >>> >>> open in Preview or Skim. >> >> No problem here with Preview or Skim. >> "The LYX User’s Guide >> by the LYX Tea

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 10:24 Uhr schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > Why not? I mean, this packaging structure is plain stupid. > Wow. I had a look now. So everybody who needs to use French as a secondary language (be it for one single word or quotation) needs to install all French translations of ma

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 5. Feb. 2020 um 09:45 Uhr schrieb Pavel Sanda : > I checked in more detail debian and their of packaging is unf language > based (so e.g. everything french related is in a single package worth > of 70 mb for texlive 2019). > That's ridiculous. OpenSuse ships a texlive-babel-french package

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 07:00:59AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > I think if people would complain, those packagers might revisit their > decisions. These are really just a few Linux distros who do this. I > don't think we should let ourselves constrain from this really > nonsensical decision.

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 06:56:07AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 19:11 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > It might be worth to report it, do we have clue whether adding all > > other languages is heavy in terms of space (are some dictionaries > > needed?) > > It's no

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-05 Thread mn
On 05.02.20 00:22, Stephan Witt wrote: >> Alternatively, just try this: >> http://ftp.lyx.de/Documentation/en/UserGuide.pdf (2.3.3) >> >> open in Preview or Skim. > > No problem here with Preview or Skim. > "The LYX User’s Guide > by the LYX Team∗ Version 2.2.x > April 20, 2017" > Preview Version

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 00:32 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: > Yes, but LyX can test for footnotehyper's presence with > isAvailable(). > Patch attached, ok? Are you sure docs do not break with hyperref and plain footnote package? Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed m

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 23:40 -0500 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > We don't really control was various distros do, obviously. I wonder > whether it would be worth trying to pare down the User Guide a bit, > so > that it was compilable with a relatively minimal LaTeX installation. > Stuff on

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 19:11 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > It might be worth to report it, do we have clue whether adding all > other languages is heavy in terms of space (are some dictionaries > needed?) It's not heavy at all. Thos *.ldf files are rather short text files. Language-specific

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 2/4/20 1:11 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 06:40:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 18:22 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: >>> Compiling user guide doesn't work for me for quite some time >>> due to missing packages (some french & spanish babel rela

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.02.2020 um 18:38 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller : > > Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 18:11 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: >> Is anyone able to reproduce the problems with Linux? > > Works for me. > > footnotehyper is in TeXLive and MikTeX as of 2016. Yes, but LyX can test for footnotehyper's prese

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.02.2020 um 20:54 schrieb mn : > > On 04.02.20 18:11, Stephan Witt wrote: > >> Anyway, the English version doesn’t work for me too. >> >> I'm facing a strange error: >> == >> LaTeX Error: File `footnotehyper.sty' not found. >> Enter file name: >> ! Emergency stop. >> >> >> l.36 \

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread mn
On 04.02.20 18:11, Stephan Witt wrote: > Anyway, the English version doesn’t work for me too. > > I'm facing a strange error: > == > LaTeX Error: File `footnotehyper.sty' not found. > Enter file name: > ! Emergency stop. > > > l.36 \usepackage > {amsmath}^^M > *** (cann

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 06:40:35PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 18:22 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > Compiling user guide doesn't work for me for quite some time > > due to missing packages (some french & spanish babel related > > stuff). > > Likely just matter of

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 18:22 +0100 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Compiling user guide doesn't work for me for quite some time > due to missing packages (some french & spanish babel related > stuff). > Likely just matter of installing them, then maybe other stuff > pops up as well. I do not think we

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, den 04.02.2020, 18:11 +0100 schrieb Stephan Witt: > Is anyone able to reproduce the problems with Linux? Works for me. footnotehyper is in TeXLive and MikTeX as of 2016. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 06:11:37PM +0100, Stephan Witt wrote: > Perhaps my LaTeX installation is outdated. > > Is anyone able to reproduce the problems with Linux? Compiling user guide doesn't work for me for quite some time due to missing packages (some french & spanish babel related stuff). Lik

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.02.2020 um 07:52 schrieb mn : > > On 03.02.20 23:35, Stephan Witt wrote: > >>> >>> Just got around testing the Mac version. >> >> Which Mac version did you test? The version you’ve built from source or the >> official one from download? >> > > macOS 10.12, TeXLive 2019. > Release versi

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-03 Thread mn
On 03.02.20 23:35, Stephan Witt wrote: >> >> Just got around testing the Mac version. > > Which Mac version did you test? The version you’ve built from source or the > official one from download? > macOS 10.12, TeXLive 2019. Release version of LyX 2.3.4, as per download from ftp.lyx.org (Sunday

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-03 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 01.02.2020 um 14:48 schrieb mn : > > On 26.01.20 23:51, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > >> I've put a Windows installer here >> >> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/LyX-234-Installer-1.exe >> >> for testing. The main thing is that I've updated Image Magick and, >> frankly, am not a

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-02-01 Thread mn
On 26.01.20 23:51, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > I've put a Windows installer here > >     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/LyX-234-Installer-1.exe > > for testing. The main thing is that I've updated Image Magick and, > frankly, am not at all sure I've done so correctly. It did manage to

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-01-27 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 1/27/20 4:08 AM, Yu Jin wrote: > Seems to work for me with imagemagick and ghostscript, tested some > pictures and pdf, preview works. Great. Thanks to you and to Andrew. Riki -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-01-27 Thread Yu Jin
Seems to work for me with imagemagick and ghostscript, tested some pictures and pdf, preview works. -- lyx-devel mailing list lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-devel

Re: LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-01-26 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 27/01/2020 11:51 am, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: Hi, all, I've put a Windows installer here     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/LyX-234-Installer-1.exe for testing. The main thing is that I've updated Image Magick and, frankly, am not at all sure I've done so correctly. It did ma

LyX 2.3.4 Windows Installer for Testing

2020-01-26 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
Hi, all, I've put a Windows installer here     http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/LyX-234-Installer-1.exe for testing. The main thing is that I've updated Image Magick and, frankly, am not at all sure I've done so correctly. It did manage to export the User Guide, but I haven't tested prev