Re: About GSoC Layout Editor proposal.

2013-04-30 Thread PhilipPirrip
On 04/30/2013 10:18 PM, Cyrille Artho wrote: You are right that poorly designed/edited layout files offer a user many ways to shoot him/herself into the foot. I know I will not convince you, still... how many ordinary users do you think will use layout editing feature? Layout files are not th

Re: Regarding Horizontal Scrollbar development

2013-04-30 Thread PhilipPirrip
On 04/30/2013 09:55 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Personally, I think that a row-by-row horizontal scrolling may give a better experience. It would not, as you would have no reference in which column you currently are. Anyone working on horizontal scrolling should perhaps first study (and t

Re: About GSoC Layout Editor proposal.

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Artho
Hi Philip, You are right that poorly designed/edited layout files offer a user many ways to shoot him/herself into the foot. However, this does not eliminate the need for layout files, and the demand for an easy way to edit them. Of course, any ideas how to avoid or mitigate problematic layou

Re: About GSoC Layout Editor proposal.

2013-04-30 Thread PhilipPirrip
On 04/30/2013 05:10 PM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: Something like I edit the page visually and/or editing params, and I get a .cls file, as well as a .layout file to be used within LyX, that uses the .cls file. Saying that, do you consider cls (sty?) files that only define \big as "bold, italic

Re: Submitted my proposal

2013-04-30 Thread Daan Janssens
thanks for the advice, I will update my proposal asap! :) I guess I made it too long indeed, but I wanted it to be as clear as possible.. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Cyrille Artho wrote: > Hi Dann, > I'm not the expert on this project, so just a few comments. > > * The mock-up is very good.

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: GSoC idea for Layout Editor

2013-04-30 Thread PhilipPirrip
One thing that bothers me is how easy the users would screw up their documents by using layout editor. Consider this case: a document has fifty flex inserts named "beautiful green". Using the layout editor, user who knows just a little about layouts changes only the name of the flex, say to "old

Re: Submitted my proposal

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Artho
Hi Dann, I'm not the expert on this project, so just a few comments. * The mock-up is very good. Gives us a clear idea of the design possibility you have considered. * What about switching into "toolbar editing" mode and arranging the icons right on the toolbar itself? Is this too difficult t

Proposal (UI enhancement) updated

2013-04-30 Thread Ashley Shan
Hi Rob, I further updated my proposal and incorporated the topics you suggested. I reduced the learning period from 2 full weeks to one week and a half. Could you please take a very quick look when you have time? Any feedback will be appreciated. Here is the link: https://google-melange.appspot.c

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Marcelo Galvão Póvoa
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 30/04/13 21:12, Marcelo Galvăo Póvoa wrote: >> there are indeed several possible approaches. I will try to briefly >> describe mine and you can comment about its (in)feasibility. > > As you say, your case was far easier, and it seems t

Re: GSoC Proposal. Ayrat Khalitov

2013-04-30 Thread Ayrat Khalitov
I updated my proposal. https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/ayrat_khalitov/1# Please, can You look at it and give to me advice and recommendations about its improvement? Thank you for your efforts. -- Best regards, Ayrat Khalitov

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 30/04/13 10:51, Nico Williams wrote: >> Part of the XMPP/whatever fabric gets disconnected from the rest. Now >> you have two LyX instances collaborating but unable to reach each >> other. What do you do now? If each user is allowed

About GSoC Layout Editor proposal.

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
Hi, I'm not sure whether this has already been discussed. I'd like to highlight that a layout editor project might have as a side outcome the production of a LaTeX class file, to be used even without LyX. That would make its scope & usefulness even broader. Something like I edit the page visuall

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 21:12, Marcelo Galvão Póvoa wrote: > there are indeed several possible approaches. I will try to briefly > describe mine and you can comment about its (in)feasibility. As you say, your case was far easier, and it seems to correspond to the simple scenario of editing text in a text-only

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 10:51, Nico Williams wrote: > Part of the XMPP/whatever fabric gets disconnected from the rest. Now > you have two LyX instances collaborating but unable to reach each > other. What do you do now? If each user is allowed to keep making > changes that are not acknowledged by the other

Re: Question about Advanced Find and Replace project

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 20:28, Ayrat Khalitov wrote: > Hello! Hi, > I update my proposal and I have three questions about Advanced Find and > Replace module: > 1) Which are most important problems in this module available? Describe them > in more detail, please (slowness, non-working corner cases... ) . T

GSoC submitted proposals - please, indicate project in subject line.

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
As from the subject, let me suggest applicants to add to the subject line the title of their submitted/updated proposals, so that interested mentors can more easily realize they should look into them. Thanks, T.

Re: GSoC: Advanced Find and Replace Questions

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 03:11, Albus X wrote: > My proposal is updated. I removed the mentioning of Prolog, made the > algorithm description clearer, and added more explanation. Hi, I could spot a few vague/ambiguous parts in the current description: - what do you mean by "variable name" ? - what does it me

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Marcelo Galvão Póvoa
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > BTW, this has all been solved before (clearly). Research it and use > whatever protocol pattern is most appropriate (or, if you can't > because of patents, invent a new protocol). > > Some posts on this list pointed at some such prior work.

Re: GSoC Proposal. Ayrat Khalitov

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 09:03, Cyrille Artho wrote: > Hi Ayrat, > Just a quick response here: Try to be more detailed and more specific about > the first goals. Try to come up with a plan for the first few weeks that > includes a concrete deliverable, even if it is just a possible design that > may again ch

Re: GSoC Project : Advanced Find and Replace

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 02:21, Albus X wrote: > It seems that there is another person interested in this project? Hi, don't worry about this. It's normal that multiple students may be interested in the same project. Each one can provide his/her own application, depending on how they interpret the project nee

Re: GSOC Toolbar Customization Dialog

2013-04-30 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Hi Mihai, Please always keep the devel list in CC as I might not be available. I think you can re-read the config file if you reset the global preferences. Abdel. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mihai Varga wrote: > Hello Abdel, > My name is Mihai Varga, I have sent a couple of weeks ago a

Re: #8637: crashes on quit

2013-04-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.04.2013 um 16:11 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn : > Op 29-4-2013 23:09, Stephan Witt schreef: >> With 2.1 git (master) and 2.0.5.1 (download) I can reproduce this on Mac. >> >> The stack trace for 2.1dev is shown below… but one has to say "no" when >> asked for start over at end of search.

Re: patch for scrolling issue - LyXscrollpatch20130302.diff (1/1) - LyXscrollpatch20130421.diff (1/1) - LyXscrollpatch20130427.diff (1/1)

2013-04-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 28/04/2013 13:06, pdv a écrit : OK, here is a new version. Let me know if you experience anymore problems. For the time being I've left the clean-up step of the map as it was, although I realize it's of limited value; when entering the same word multiple times, the partial words get included a

Branch for UI Improvements/Outliner

2013-04-30 Thread Rob Oakes
Dear Developers, Would it be possible for someone to create a branch on git.lyx.org for the UI improvement code? Since there has been some recent interest in it, I thought it would be good to have it in a format more easily merged with lyx-master. To that end, I created a git repo with all of my c

Re: Proposal submitted; suggestions wanted

2013-04-30 Thread Rob Oakes
Hi Xueqing, I apologize for not responding earlier. I saw your draft proposal, and I had several things I wanted to point out. I am still desperately trying to finish my work project (our deadline has been extended), and will respond in more detail when able. With that said: I agree with Cyrille

Re: #8637: crashes on quit

2013-04-30 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 29-4-2013 23:09, Stephan Witt schreef: With 2.1 git (master) and 2.0.5.1 (download) I can reproduce this on Mac. The stack trace for 2.1dev is shown below… but one has to say "no" when asked for start over at end of search. If I answer "yes" the crash doesn't happen. So, I'm not sure if the

Re: Regarding Horizontal Scrollbar development

2013-04-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 30/04/2013 15:33, stefano franchi a écrit : On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Abhishek Sharma mailto:abhios...@gmail.com>> wrote: Good day to you. I have decided to work on Horizontal scrollbar development for Lyx. there has been extensive discussions of the horizontal scrollbar proj

Re: Regarding Horizontal Scrollbar development

2013-04-30 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Abhishek Sharma wrote: > Good day to you. > > I have decided to work on Horizontal scrollbar development for Lyx. > > The basic process which I was able to figure out to complete the task is > this: > > 1. Getting familiar with Lyx code and studying Qt. > 2. Findin

Re: Git Cloning Error

2013-04-30 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Elmar Hinz > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I created a kind of mirror of the master branch on github. You may try > if it > > makes a difference > > to clone from that. > > > > https://github.com/t3elmar/Lyx > >

Regarding Horizontal Scrollbar development

2013-04-30 Thread Abhishek Sharma
Good day to you. I have decided to work on Horizontal scrollbar development for Lyx. The basic process which I was able to figure out to complete the task is this: 1. Getting familiar with Lyx code and studying Qt. 2. Finding out methods to develop the scrollbar. 3. Beginning coding keeping poin

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Albus X
Hello. In my opinion, cooperative editing the same paragraph does not make sense. I will be annoyed if the paragraph I am editing change from time to time making the structure and meaning and everything a mess. I suggest that we could simply lock that paragraph while others can commenting on it, le

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 30/04/13 00:23, Nico Williams wrote: >> Well... If a paragraph is deleted then the pointer might get assigned >> in a subsequent allocation and... you end up with an aliasing problem. > > I was thinking of detecting this problem when

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > I must admit that I share Pavel's sentiment: I'm not sure how much the > community needs/requires a chatting function in LyX. But I was > thinking of possibly a cheap workaround: Why not communicate with > images? LyX doesn't. Getting thro

Fwd: Re: Fwd: GSoC idea for Layout Editor

2013-04-30 Thread Helge Hafting
On 20. april 2013 23:08, Liviu Andronic wrote: Helge, Pavel, Do you think you could take a look at this student's proposal and give some feedback? Ok, here are some ideas: The point of a "layout editor" is to be simpler than actually editing .layout files. * The user should not need any kn

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 30/04/13 08:49, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> But I was >> thinking of possibly a cheap workaround: Why not communicate with >> images? > > hmmm.. that sounds like a hack.., would usability be the same ? or the > user would have to switch

Submitted my proposal

2013-04-30 Thread Daan Janssens
Hello world, I just submitted my proposal for "A fast and useful toolbar modification dialog". It would really be handy to get some last feedback on it, so I can refine it before the deadline. Thanks in advance Daan Janssens

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 00:23, Nico Williams wrote: > Well... If a paragraph is deleted then the pointer might get assigned > in a subsequent allocation and... you end up with an aliasing problem. I was thinking of detecting this problem when you delete a par, going through the cursors/pointers potentially a

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 30/04/13 08:49, Liviu Andronic wrote: > But I was > thinking of possibly a cheap workaround: Why not communicate with > images? hmmm.. that sounds like a hack.., would usability be the same ? or the user would have to switch back and forth among the chat client and lyx to do this, for handling

Lyx. Toolbar customization dialog. GSoC-2013 proposal

2013-04-30 Thread Дамир Халирахманов
Hello for everyone! I like to work for "Toolbar customization dialog" project. I have submitted my application proposal. Here is the proposal page: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/khalirakhmanov/1# Please, said me what I should improve in this. Thanks a lot

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Artho
I must admit that I share Pavel's sentiment: I'm not sure how much the community needs/requires a chatting function in LyX. But I was thinking of possibly a cheap workaround: Why not communicate with images? Good point. In the age of Skype etc., and with many existing good chat clients, why im

Re: Lyx. Horizontal scrollbar. GSoC-2013 proposal

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Artho
Hi Roman, What I said earlier about another proposal applies to other proposals as well. Try to be more detailed and more specific about the first goals. Try to come up with a plan for the first few weeks that includes a concrete deliverable, even if it is just a possible design that may again

Re: GSoC Proposal. Ayrat Khalitov

2013-04-30 Thread Cyrille Artho
Hi Ayrat, Just a quick response here: Try to be more detailed and more specific about the first goals. Try to come up with a plan for the first few weeks that includes a concrete deliverable, even if it is just a possible design that may again change later. Ayrat Khalitov wrote: Respected M

GSoC Proposal. Ayrat Khalitov

2013-04-30 Thread Ayrat Khalitov
Respected Metors, I have submitted my application proposal. My GSoC project is "Advanced Find and Replace" Here is the proposal page: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/ayrat_khalitov/1# Please, can You look at it and give to me advice and recommendations abou

Re: GSoC 2013: Interactive LyX

2013-04-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: >> OTOH interactive LyX seems to be really worth and requested feature while the >> chat looks more like a toy with the aroma of the word "bloat" around (sorry >> for >> the punch :) > > I'm not sure here: AFAICS, I'd see myself more need

Re: Git Cloning Error

2013-04-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: > Hello, > > I created a kind of mirror of the master branch on github. You may try if it > makes a difference > to clone from that. > > https://github.com/t3elmar/Lyx > You also have a Bazaar clone of the GIT master here: https://code.launchpad.n

Re: Git Cloning Error

2013-04-30 Thread Elmar Hinz
Hello, I created a kind of mirror of the master branch on github. You may try if it makes a difference to clone from that. https://github.com/t3elmar/Lyx Elmar You may try to On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Abhishek Sharma wrote: > Hello > > I'm having problem on cloning git through the co