[Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, As some may know google is force feeding the removal of access for basic html. For me personally this presents several issues, shellworld is amazing in general, but the owners have removed the right to review spam here all together. There is a thread over at DOS ain't dead about provi

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Chime Hart
Well, Karen, I have had fastmail for some years, since that 4 day Shellworld outage in May. Once fastmail is setup, it works well, but several functions in their interface, you must use a graphical browser. I also have my web-site hosted by them-and-they took away regular ncftp access, now I mus

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
panix.com has both roundcube and squirrelmail but we found both of those interfaces are inaccessible for command line users of linux so although I could set them up I couldn't access them effectively. That's why I am using spamassassin. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of lib

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Chime, The organization for whom I work has an open support ticket with fastmail to discover what they can or cannot provide. Thanks, Karen On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Chime Hart wrote: Well, Karen, I have had fastmail for some years, since that 4 day Shellworld outage in May. Once fastmail i

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Mouse
> [...] > Lynx ideas for email? This sounds like a business opportunity for...well, I'm not sure whom, but someone! It'd be a niche market, yes, but companies have been successful serving niche markets often enough. (I'd start it myself, but I am not a businessmouse, and I know it.) /~\ The ASC

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
..actually you might be surprised how large the market would be. The digital divide, gap between end users, costs, and technology is quite great. add the extent to which privacy and security plays a role, people wanting to just communicate, with the tools they have in the fashion they choose? Wh

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Agree about spam assassin. However the owners of shellworld disliked the program, so instead of individual choice for users, they took the choice away from everyone. did try to use my password at gmail, likely the code got filtered as spam..for which I have no folder. On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, J

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Have you a trash folder or junkmail folder? -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Agree about spam assassin. > However the owners of shellworld d

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
no. pine and alpine create a folder called probably-spam. However, the mail process must actually use them. This was the case..for decades actually, until that decision was taken away. While we have been *promised* a replacement, that replacement has yet to be provided. On Tue, 21 Nov 2023,

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Maybe others can help here, users can install their own copy of spamassassin though that needs some work to do it correctly. Another possibility may be procmail and that needs some study to set recipes up correctly. It seems to me shellworld.net is intent on keeping its users open to spam. -- Ju

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Actually, that is untrue. Shellworld owners are intent on deciding what email we can and cannot see, including items an individual may consider spam but they do not, and clearly the other way around as well. There is a difference. its not that we get lots of spam. Instead we end up not gettin

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Chime Hart
Well Jude-and-All, with Fastmail, I can go through a process in Alpine with an "s" for save, controll+t, I arrow down through folders until "spam training" after that I go down again to "spam learn" Certainly spam asassin was alot less complicated. Not only that, but there were white-and-black l

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Chime, Are you using the web interface with fastmail as well? If not, does fastmail give you access to all your email content? Where do you use alpine, do they provide a door or is it on your personal system? Kare On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Chime Hart wrote: Well Jude-and-All, with Fastmail, I

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Chime Hart
Hi Karen: 1 of my Linux experts setup Alpine with fastmail. But, no, because fastmail is rather graphical, I cannot go in-and-ajust anything. Even my hosted web-site, I have no idea of finding out a quota of space, so I upload a file, if it completes, I am lucky. Chime

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Panix offers web accounts and telnet accounts. I got a telnet account for $100 a year. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Either way, that's a bad deal. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Actually, that is untrue. > Shellworld owners are intent on deciding what e

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
..and you just shared that roundcube and squirrel mail do not work there. When I sought to work with them as well, they were quite quite hostile to my needs..plus for me that would be far more expensive then here, my site is at shellworld as well. Kare On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Jude DaShiell wrot

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
Panix actually tested both webmail apps running them with lynx to find out if I could use either of them and learned that wasn't possible since certain essential controls in both apps are proprietary controls not standard web controls. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liber

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Karen Lewellen dixit: > There is a thread over at DOS ain't dead about providers who still have web > interfaces, using roundcube or squirrel mail, someone even spoke of fastmail. > Anyone know of either an email service that incorporates these lower graphics Is using pine a possibility? (I thi

Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and webmail interfaces?

2023-11-21 Thread Dennis Rutar via Lynx-dev
Best time to have my zebra groomed! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 3:56 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Karen Lewellen dixit: > There is a thread over at DOS ain't dead about providers who  still have web > interfaces, using roundcube or squirrel mail, someone even spo