On 09/28/2013 06:22 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> 13.10 manual is a "not going to happen". What you have done, as I
> pointed out in a previous email, is set up the structure for a
> manual.
Right; so the existing team could if they so choose create a manual for
it, after the fact. It won't be o
On 09/28/2013 03:46 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> if we put down 13.10 to experience (the methods of having such a
> manual set up etc.) I do not think it was wasted exercise. IMHO, I'd
> have hated to start on this project at the start of 14.04 without us
> and the manual team having met, discusse
On 09/28/2013 03:14 PM, Sergio Meneses wrote:
> There is a Lubuntu Manual Team or something?... maybe we can do a
> preview for the next cycle.
"Teams" seem to generate a lot of talk and "politics", but do not always
result in actual work being done.
The original idea was that we would do a 13.1
On 09/28/2013 08:55 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> I've not caught up with Jonathan lately (been busy iso testing and
> chasing a nasty bug up). It is planned to have a lubuntu manual out for
> 14.04, with me now concentrating more on wiki / docs I'll be along for
> the ride this tim
On 09/20/2013 09:12 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> I'd like this discussion to continue, as it just makes sense to
> do it that way.
One issue is what Win98 does, if that is your target audience for
this... it just uses program names, as far as I know. If you install
7zip you don't get a menu item
On 09/20/2013 08:30 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> by the same argument, does a new comer want to see "Use this for
> documents" and "use this for spreadsheets"... a new comer will look at
> the menu and look for "What it does". I do believe this discussion
> should be taken further as we are expect
On 09/20/2013 10:19 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> it is a matter of not confusing people... Would a new comer to lubuntu
> know what gpicview was? Or, indeed, would they care? That it is called
> Image Viewer does make it clear what it does. But, then we have the
> entry "mtpaint Graphic Editor"...
On 09/07/2013 08:50 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> On 9/6/2013 10:29 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> MY SUMMARY: Someone is building a new commercial trojan for Linux,
>> which doesn't actually work yet, and there is no known way to
>> infect anyone with it anyway, except
On 09/06/2013 11:26 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> I understand that with a standard Ubuntu/Lubuntu installation not
> running Wine, it is believed that there are no active threats that would
> responsibly require resident anti-virus protection.
>
> That may still be true today, but perhaps it won't be f
On 07/20/2013 04:45 PM, Sunita Barve wrote:
> The livecd was basically configured using uck.
>
> For creating livecd ubuntu 64 bit installation was used to create
> base iso and then small edits required were done on laptop with 8 GB
> RAM and 1 TB disk space and CD was finalised.
OK. So this l
On 07/07/2013 09:41 PM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> That file was generated by the script, right? maybe this -e came from
> that...
>
> I searched for the other autostart files on the existing profiles, the line:
> @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 -e
> has no -e parame
On 07/07/2013 09:36 PM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> I would like to know, if there is anything I can set, to make the apply
> behavior of lxkeymap permanent on log in and log out?
Put
@lxkeymap --autostart
in your autostart file? Is that what you mean?
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On 07/07/2013 11:07 AM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> 2013/7/6 Jonathan Marsden > I am guessing you used nano, and it word wrapped for you. ...
> No, I edited with leafpad...
OK, I guessed wrong!
Leafpad has a wordwrap option, but it should be turned off by default,
so in that case,
On 07/06/2013 11:34 AM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> I edited /etc/xdg/lxsession/lubuntu-osx ; it was like this...
> @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
> -e @compton -cC -r 16 -l -24 -t -12
> Then I moved this -e, and now loads great...
I am guessing you used nano, and
s of a script that any other, and so is no
more or less dangerous than any other. Treat it as you would any other
script found online -- read it first, only run it if you understand it.
It is suitable for experimenters, not the general public, at this stage.
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a bug handling .sh files, rename the script
to create-alternate-session.sh.txt and upload that, and document the
need to rename it after downloading it in the wiki. But that really
should not be necessary!
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2013, at 03:44 PM, Mr Wislr wrote:
> it should simply be two options
Why? Who are you to say how many options other people will want to
create, or will want to have available? If they are good, and can be
added to Lubuntu without using too much disk space or RAM or effort from
th
On 07/04/2013 06:47 PM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> I'm reading this late... Whatever it is, package or script, I'm waiting
> to test it!
Why are you waiting??
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu%20alternative%20sessions
Download the script, chmod +x it, and run it :) And let us know how
well (or b
On 07/04/2013 02:51 PM, nio wiklund wrote:
> Then let us wait for a reply from someone who knows how to set the
> sensitivity :-)
Huh? Start -> Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse
That lets you set both Acceleration and Sensitivity.
These settings are stored in the file
~/.config/lxsession/Lub
On 07/04/2013 09:29 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> if you want some where to host the script whilst you get it into a
> PPA (which is the best place), I can add it to my server which is a
> mirror for the lubuntu (and other) ISOs [1].
Um. PPAs host *packages*. Not scripts.
When this work is refi
Lars,
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 06/28/2013 09:19 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> Is there an existing Launchpad bug report for this issue? If not, and
>> the issue can be confirmed, let's get one opened.
> Which package should it be filed
entally, I confess I do not possess more than six SSH keypairs so I
would never come across this issue in real usage. I suspect that is
true for most users :)
Anyway, if you can test on Ubuntu 13.04 and report whether the bug
exists
there, as well as in Lubuntu, that would help.
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d manage it
from their workstation(s). It is likely they will install Ubuntu Server
12.04 if they are into using Ubuntu on servers.
What benefit does Lubuntu have as a real server OS over Ubuntu server??
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On 06/21/2013 08:28 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
> R 3.0.1 will be available for Lubuntu 13.01 when it is released in
> October 2013.
In case it is unclear: I introduced a typo in the Lubunbu version
number, 13.10 was intended! So that should have said:
R 3.0.1 will be available for L
On 06/21/2013 01:15 PM, Wilbert Heeringa wrote:
> Why is still R version 2.15.2 in the repositories?
It isn't, for the current development release 3.0.1-3 is in the
repositories now.
> Today version 3.0.1 is available and I tried to download and install
> it from http://cran.rstudio.com/ .
Why?
age you to edit the
page to document that approach, rather than the command-based approaches
currently described.
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ght work, for people who know what they are doing and
have less than 256MB.
The same goes for workarounds for unsupported video chipsets, etc... we
document them, but on the wiki only and not in the main documentation
path we expect newcomers to use. So that people who don't need t
On 06/19/2013 09:13 PM, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> Just be carefull because I reported on a bug that sudo shutdown now on
> Lubuntu 13.10 daily 20130618 was leading to land at root@lubuntu user.
>
> I'm not sure about sudo shutdown -r now... need to test. But be carefull
> with what you do on your
On 06/19/2013 03:46 PM, John Kim wrote:
> This one too. Can somebody help? Thanks.
There is a bug report about this, so it will be or is being addressed.
Please do note that Saucy is in Alpha test, so bugs should be expected
and fully reported using Launchpad. If you can't deal with that, you
On 06/19/2013 03:05 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Results with 'grub-n-iso-n-swap' and Pentium M indicate that using the
> default installation (starting from a blank drive or overwriting it) is
> maybe slightly smoother than a complicated manual partitioning at the
> 'Something else' page.
Good :) L
Ali,
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013, at 05:31 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Jonathan Marsden
>> I'd much prefer a test using the default install type. ...
> With all due respect, this will make no difference whatsoever, IMHO.
> What this has to d
t like a newcomer, stick to the default choices
wherever possible.
Having said that, the result was really encouraging! I don't *think*
this would have affected the result... but it would be good to *know*.
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ult during
an alternate install too? I think it might be worth trying, since the
results of zRAM on the ubiquity install have been so positive so far.
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which people can install and automagically
have all this candy on their Lubuntu machines :) That could make "eye
candy acquisition" easier for Lubuntu users than for users of other
OSes!
But the way to start is documenting precisely what software to add and
how to configure it.
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On 06/17/2013 07:28 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Live CD is classic but not standard nowadays, Ali ;-)
But the low-RAM machines we are testing are not "nowadays" machines!
Please, focus on the test as requested, let's not start testing USB boot
of older PCs mixed in with the minimum RAM testing, tha
On 06/17/2013 04:53 AM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
> Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013, 12:48:27 schrieb Yorvyk:
>> On 17/06/13 02:13, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> 2. Or was I doing something seriously wrong?
>> Probably :D
>> We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I
>> believe there is
On 06/17/2013 04:48 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
> On 17/06/13 02:13, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> 1. Has the GUI installer of Saucy improved a lot compared to Raring?
> Doesn't look like it. I had my trained monkey run the following test:-
> Compaq Deskpro as previous with 512 MiB RAM. Single FAT32 partition
>
On 06/16/2013 09:24 PM, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> Hardware has been cleaned and Ubuntu 10.04 is installed again.
> Somehow I did not manage to install neither Lubuntu 12.04 nor Lubuntu
> 12.10.
What happened when you tried? And did you run memtest for a nice long
time, and look over the whole mot
On 06/16/2013 01:27 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> I think expecting novice users coming from Windows to pre-partition
>> and set up swap space before they install is asking a *lot*. I'd
>> much prefer that we focus on installing to an HD with either no
>> partitions, or a Windows partition, on it, sin
On 06/16/2013 11:22 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> I think your analysis is correct, so if you have low RAM
>
> 1. Make sure there is swap and that it is active before starting the
> installer
>
> 2. Do not touch it during the installation (at the partitioning page)
I think expecting novice users com
On 06/16/2013 09:15 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
> On 06/16/2013 08:39 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> On 06/16/2013 06:40 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
>>> One thing I'd like to add is I don't mess with the 64bit
>>> installers - there is nothing wrong with inst
On 06/16/2013 06:40 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
> One thing I'd like to add is I don't mess with the 64bit
> installers - there is nothing wrong with installing a 32bit Lubuntu on a
> 64bit machine and (for me) makes it easier going forward.
Can you explain why? What is the issue with the 64bit ins
On 06/15/2013 10:40 PM, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> This desktop has been turned off for 2 years ...
> Although it has 1GB RAM, lubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso crashes when on
> slideshow. ...
> Any ideas what else should I do to install Lubuntu on this AMD desktop?
Sounds like a hardware issue t
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Lars Nooden wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> no "instead of" relationship between them. I don't understand why
>> you think there is. /etc/environment (and ~/.pam_environment) will
>> be used (via
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 05:15 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> What specifically makes you think changes to /etc/environment "do not
>> have any effect" in Lubuntu Saucy? Can you provide a complete set of
>> "steps t
Lars,
On 06/13/2013 10:25 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:
> I read that the help document on environment variables [1] points to
> ~/.pam_environment and /etc/environment as where to change variables.
>
> I notice that ~/.pam_environment is not present in Lubuntu (saucy)
> and that changes to /etc/en
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> On 2013-06-10 19:53, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be more useful to provide the temporary workaround of
>>
>> sudo apt-get install python-gudev gir1.2-gudev-1.0 -y
> Your ppa makes a big improvem
from the tool we expect to be on the Lubuntu ISO?
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mal" install from it, and why that approach
does not work for them when they try it.
If they are regularly using Facebook, most likely they have a decent
Internet connection, so mini.iso and selecting Lubuntu minimal install
should work very well for such folks.
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On 06/02/2013 09:41 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
> Anybody interested in contributinhg to this, there is a meeting in
> #ubuntu-manual on June 8th at 18:00 UTC where a Lubuntu version is
> going to be discussed. Depending on the outcome of that I'll arrange
> another meeting for us Lubuntians to discuss wha
On 06/02/2013 11:27 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> this is mentioned on our Minimal Install page.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
> where > have 'desktop install' (the normal one), and 'core install' (very
> stripped down).
I think (if I am understanding Al
On 06/01/2013 03:30 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> I've not found any down sides to zRAM with more than 512 MiB of RAM.
> Below that, especially with CPUs below 1GHz, there are frequent pauses
> as memory gets swapped about when the zRAM allocation has been used up
> and swap starts using the disk partition/
On 06/01/2013 02:58 PM, Tong Sun wrote:
> OMG, it's 10x simpler. All you need is your text editor, and AsciiDoc
> of course.
If the manual you are trying to use as a starting point is already in
LaTeX, then the work of converting all of it correctly to any other
format is large. That work is alm
On 06/01/2013 06:50 AM, Jose Lopez wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, I'm very interested in learning CLI from Grub, never done
> it before and I,m pretty new to (advance CLI) as I would look at it. is
> there a link or a tut that you can point me to.
I prefer to learn by doing, and by reading the docs that c
On 06/01/2013 01:49 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
> A look at the specs for Chromebooks gives some idea of the power and
> RAM Google deems necessary to run Chrome in a useful fashion.
Yes and no... I run a full Ubuntu 12,04 + LXDE installation (using the
crouton script) in a chroot within ChromeOS on my XE3
On 05/31/2013 09:10 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> you can also utilise the abilities built into the linux kernel.
Those kernel parameters *are* "abilities built into the Linux kernel",
aren't they? :)
> I know at times I seem like a fan boi of virt-manager, but it is a
> GUI that uses the kvm abi
On 05/31/2013 05:47 PM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> I cannot test lubuntu with such low specs... But I have already used
> lubuntu with several Celeron D processors, and about 1gb.
You can boot with a kernel parameter
mem=512M
or
mem=384M
or even
mem=256M
so the kernel will only use that
On 05/25/2013 01:16 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/102 ...
> After all that it looks like your idea is virtually impossible.
Well, I'd say that it seems *possible* -- but it reduces the set of i386
machines that will boot the resulting "truly portabl
On 05/25/2013 12:07 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> I think it is good to have a portable live or persistent live system
> on a USB pendrive. You need not carry a computer, only the pendrive,
> and you can borrow almost any computer to run it.
There are some alternatives to be considered:
(1) For ultim
On 05/25/2013 08:59 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> I suggest that we try to make a Lubuntu iso file, that can boot in
> 'all' computers with intel/amd CPUs.
Let's avoid copying threads to "every imaginable Lubuntu mailing
list"... pick the one list that is appropriate for your topic.
The closest thing
On 05/24/2013 07:16 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> if this is an expected result, if it is not what could be expected as
> an upgrade?. Is it lubuntu only or cross flavours? Do we need more
> tests?
I think it's based on xscreensaver being around and active during an
upgrade. So if other flavours
On 05/24/2013 05:44 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 05/24/2013 04:32 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
>>killall xscreensaver
>>killall xlockmore
> I'm sure I didn't do either of the above commands, and I ended up
> with no problems (that I have yet seen) rega
ckmore
should do the trick.
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On 05/13/2013 11:13 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> Do you know if there is a tool to make off-line manuals from the wiki
> pages (or from the moinmoin source code)?
>
> Or the other way around?
>
> I'm asking because I'm maintaining 'Lubuntu-fake-PAE' and need both the
> wiki pages and some kind of of
On 05/13/2013 09:08 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 05/13/2013 07:51 PM, Lee Gold wrote:
>> Just installed 13.04 and then mediabuntu. I have a video rendering
>> problem. ...
>> 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
> The problem you describe with the flash videos
On 05/13/2013 02:47 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> it was meant for Ali to start work on a wiki area.
It was? The comment that "doc team are going with Mallard" was "meant
for Ali to start work on a wiki area"? Now I'm confused!
Wiki uses wiki markup; Mallard uses Mallard's own new XML-based mar
umentation that needs different markup.
Let's keep the different kinds of documentation needs clear in our
minds.
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uot;creating a Lubuntu version of
http://ubuntu-manual.org/"; , then I'd suggesting using the document
source format and tools from that site, for ease of re-using and editing
their existing content.
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On 05/05/2013 08:36 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> I've seen it fail on a 1.7 gigahertz (1 Gig RAM) machine two times
> running Unity desktop environment, and once on the Ubuntu Gnome-Remix
> system.
Then you can open a new Launchpad bug about that incident, which is
running a fast-enough, RAM-enough
Aere,
On 04/19/2013 12:23 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Better to do this as one line with && between the two commands, since if
the first fails, the second is usually rather pointless... so
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> The f
Ali,
On 04/13/2013 01:52 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> apt-get dist-upgrade can upgrade your Kernel.
> apt-get upgrade can not.
>
> That is all :)
Please do
man apt-get
to understand the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get
dist-upgrade.
Your above statement perhaps happened t
On 04/13/2013 10:28 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> Repeating the "sudo apt-get upgrade" step responded with something about
> the (new kernel) change being "held-back".
>
> This made me lose all trust in the terminal method of updating, because
> when I apply updates, I want them all to be applied -
mac.blacklist=yes
So it seems the issue has more to do with sound drivers that video
drivers?
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t now? What triggered
this request? If it is important, and testable on an iBook G4, I might
be able to test it tonight... but I need to know what the issue is. Who
is calling for help to do what exactly?
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On 03/30/2013 06:23 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> What's the record of security updates? Does anybody know the
> percentage affecting the specific Lubuntu software (LXDE etc)? 1% or
> 10% of the total number or total risk? Or much less than 1%?
>
> Is it more important to keep the web browser protecte
On 03/30/2013 03:05 PM, mrwi...@hushmail.com wrote:
> would like to edit the run command in the menu, anyone know the
> location?
The run dialog usually used in Lubuntu is part of lxpanel. You can
bring it up using the command
/usr/bin/lxpanelctl run
(which is what the default openbox config
On 03/23/2013 08:29 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:
> er what i mean is to change what boots by default I need to do stuff
> from the command line / text editor
>> is this correct or is there a tool somewhere to simply allow me to
>> select the OS and then hit set to default and have this set my
>> selec
On 03/08/2013 04:57 PM, Peter Matulis wrote:
> i'm running Lubuntu 12.10 and i would like to disable gnome keyring
> daemon for SSH.
I am not sure how to prevent it from starting, but I find if I do
killall gnome-keyring-daemon
unset GNOME_KEYRING_PID GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=$(
On 02/21/2013 08:57 AM, Paul Blampspied wrote:
> I can't make out which Boost libraries are installed. Synaptic
> clearly shows libboost-all-dev is installed and the indicated version
> is 1.48.0.2.
Precise has packages for libboost 1.4.6 and 1.48. I think
libboost-all-dev pulls in the default
On 02/09/2013 07:45 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> Regarding my last question below, I now see that Synaptic uses dpkg,
> so it seems very likely that despite the language of some of the
> documentation, there is probably only one package database shared by
> all the relevant tools. Enlighten me if th
On 02/08/2013 05:01 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> I have discovered a very nice gui program, that lets you create deb
> packages. It is named Debreate, and it is *very good*.
>
> http://debreate.sourceforge.net
>
>
> So I created my first .deb package, but I can't upload it to a
> launchpad ppa I
On 01/31/2013 09:46 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> I've not seen that on general chat of bugs. Lubuntu does not use 12.04.1
> (it is not an TS), nor does it use 12.04.2
It does if you update it, because /etc/lsb-release is part of
base-files, so when that is updated by a point release, and you upd
On 12/20/2012 07:23 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> I also tried
>
> sed -e 's/DEVICE$/DEVICE Lubuntu1:3551/'
>
> And that had no effect whatsoever. The result was still "DEVICE
> Lubuntu1:3551 Lubuntu1:3551".
That makes no sense to me at all, if the file originally had a line
containing only DEVIC
John,
On 12/19/2012 01:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>>> It all works fine except for this substitution:
>>> -e 's/DEVICE/DEVICE Lubuntu1:3551/'
If the original line concerned starts out as just DEVICE (followed by a
line feed to mark the end of line), then I'd suggest making the sed
command be
sed
On 12/08/2012 01:17 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> Can I force usage of a certain driver? I read that this was
> supported with xorg.conf, but that does not exist by default now, and
> I think Xorg uses an automated configuration system called KMS, about
> which I know next to nothing. But perhaps a con
On 12/01/2012 11:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> The only problem is that I can't seem to find the ./doc subdirectory
> which it says I *need* to look at. Does anyone know where it is? I
> have also now installed rsyslog-doc in case that helps.
For future reference, as a general principle, using
d
On 11/15/2012 09:18 PM, Hitesh Shah wrote:
> In particular, because I see both the default (lubuntu-artwork) the ppa
> (lubuntu-artwork-13-04) present in my software list do I assume that if I
> select the theme from ~/.themes I'm using plain lubuntu artwork (the one
> that comes by default with 1
On 11/10/2012 12:50 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
> We had a rather short session on this, but the consensus was that
> some entries don't make it obvious what they are. ... So we ended up
> with the following, ...
> Leafpad Editor
I'd suggest "Leafpad Text Editor" to clarify that this particular editor
is
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