Re: [Lubuntu-qa] encrypted home does not work alone

2015-03-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-03-04 20:38, Nio Wiklund skrev: > Hi everybody, > > Continuing testing I found that cryptswap does not work even when it is > run alone in a 'use the whole disk' installation. This is a bad bug. > > It seems to be an old bug: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/

[Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
This may seem like an odd question but a question that will better help me in my efforts as a tester. Who is the target audience? What type of users are we trying to attract? With this answer I can find a more effective way of performing testcases and writing them. Plus, I can focus on images and

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-03-05 16:57, Istimsak Abdulbasir skrev: > This may seem like an odd question but a question that will better help > me in my efforts as a tester. > > Who is the target audience? What type of users are we trying to attract? > With this answer I can find a more effective way of performing t

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Lubuntu has always been for low resource machines. Many of these will be converts of old traditional operating systems, so it's important to make them feel at home. Secondarily, it's for those that want a complete but low resource OS. @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
On Mar 5, 2015 11:36 AM, "Nio Wiklund" wrote: > > Den 2015-03-05 16:57, Istimsak Abdulbasir skrev: > > This may seem like an odd question but a question that will better help > > me in my efforts as a tester. > > > > Who is the target audience? What type of users are we trying to attract? > > With

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
On Mar 5, 2015 11:39 AM, "Walter Lapchynski" wrote: > > Lubuntu has always been for low resource machines. Many of these will be converts of old traditional operating systems, so it's important to make them feel at home. > So you agree with Nio's explanation of target audience? >Secondarily, it

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Ian Bruntlett
I help friends with Linux. lubuntu has 2 main features for me:- 1. A little more familiar for those people moving from Windows XP. 2. Works on really old computers. It keeps my NetBook running and also the computers of friends as well. -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.ac

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Den 2015-03-05 18:47, Istimsak Abdulbasir skrev: > > On Mar 5, 2015 11:36 AM, "Nio Wiklund" > wrote: >> >> Den 2015-03-05 16:57, Istimsak Abdulbasir skrev: >> > This may seem like an odd question but a question that will better help >> > me in my efforts as a tester.

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
I only somewhat agree. We're not targeting non-Linux users, but that may be part of it. Either way, the focus is on being low resource while still being somewhat user friendly. Xubuntu is light compared to Ubuntu, but not Lubuntu. We are the light option that still includes a GUI and a suite of

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
I agree with Walter: Lubuntu is low resource while still being somewhat user friendly. Lubuntu - ultra light foot-print Xubuntu - medium light foot-print Best regards Nio Den 2015-03-05 19:05, Walter Lapchynski skrev: > I only somewhat agree. We're not targeting non-Linux users, but that may >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
On Mar 5, 2015 12:59 PM, "Ian Bruntlett" wrote: > > > I help friends with Linux. lubuntu has 2 main features for me:- > > 1. A little more familiar for those people moving from Windows XP. > > 2. Works on really old computers. It keeps my NetBook running and also the computers of friends as well.

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Brendan Perrine
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 19:08:14 +0100 Nio Wiklund wrote: > without [much] tweaking. For licensing reasons the end user must install Yes having network manager work is espically important as you need another machine to get support for every other problem you have with lubuntu as it is all online ot

[Lubuntu-qa] Proposed Alternate test case changes

2015-03-05 Thread Lars Noodén
Here are some proposed changes to the Alternate test case regarding encryption. Nio and I have been corresponding off list about it and I think I have the right changes in bazaar: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsnooden/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/+merge/252016 Only the one file is changed. Maybe

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
So lubuntu targets Ubuntu users who like the simplicity of operating a Linux OS but with lxde. Now I know the audience for lubuntu what about ubuntu in general? On Mar 5, 2015 2:26 PM, "Brendan Perrine" wrote: > On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 19:08:14 +0100 > Nio Wiklund wrote: > > > without [much] tweakin

[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Announce: Vivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Be forewarned: systemd is officially coming to Lubuntu on Vivid dailies Monday. For those that don't know, systemd is an init system, which is to say that it gets your operating system started. Ubuntu's been using Upstart for quite some time now but with Debian (and tons of other distros, includin

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Well, I guess you need to ask Ubuntu about that. If we judge it by the original plans sabdfl suggested, the idea was to make Linux easy for people. It seems this is true. There's much less hackiness to get things done (for the most part), lots of configuration options, good integration, and let's n

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
I guess that "ease of use" is what is important. Getting things is accelerated because of the reduction in actually hacking the system. No need to pull your hair out, for the most part. At least now I have a better of what I am really dealing with. On Mar 5, 2015 5:30 PM, "Walter Lapchynski" wrote

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Proposed Alternate test case changes

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
The workflow is like this: 1. Get the code: `bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests` 2. Edit the files you want to change 3. Add the files to your commit (which should be recursive): `bzr add` 4. Check that you don't have any changed files that are not committed: `bzr status` 5. Commit the changes: `bz

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Yeah well honestly, I think Lubuntu's approach to things is a LOT easier than Kubuntu. If you find something that doesn't just work in the GUI, it's kind of messy. I think all users should feel empowered enough to use the command line. The fact that they have control over their system is something

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Target audience

2015-03-05 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
Yeah, we will concentrate on "ease of use". I stopped kubuntu a long time ago. Did not fall under the current objective. However, the advanced user discussion will come later. On Mar 5, 2015 6:27 PM, "Walter Lapchynski" wrote: > Yeah well honestly, I think Lubuntu's approach to things is a LOT >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Announce: Vivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact

2015-03-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06.03.2015 00:26, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Be forewarned: systemd is officially coming to Lubuntu on Vivid dailies > Monday. > > For those that don't know, systemd is an init system, which is to say > ... It's not an init system. :( But be that as it may, why is Ubuntu being broadsided wi

[Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu alternate installer - inspiration

2015-03-05 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Lubuntu users and friends, After helping us to test the test-case 'Alternate Install (Encryption) in Lubuntu Alternate i386 for Vivid Daily' Ventrical at the Ubuntu Forums wrote this very inspiring post for us, who care about Lubuntu :-) _ It is extremely important to have a working, cohe