Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
An update, the kernel boots okay and when stressed with swap does not crash. The next step will be to make an ISO with it in and see if it does, indeed, squish the bug. The kernel team are on the case and we will be asked to help test an ISO at some point in the (hopefully near) future. Thanks ev

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
There are updates on the bug report, so If you want to see where it is up to read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1227202 Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 17:28, Phill Whiteside wrote: > It was he on the kernel irc channel who I chatted to about the best way to > rais

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Sort of says it all Joseph Salisbury 16:49 (10 minutes ago) to phillw ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 16:36, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Indeed, those are my thoughts - hence my quick chat with the kernel team > and them

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Phill, You know how to catch the attention of the people who can fix this kind of problems :-) Best regards Nio On 2013-09-18 18:01, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Sort of says it all > > > Joseph Salisbury > > > > 16:49 (10 minutes ago) >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
It was he on the kernel irc channel who I chatted to about the best way to raise a kernel type bug. I've only done one before... ever! (And I got that one in from upstream with a lot of help narrowing down the exact 'bit' that was needed). Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 17:13, Nio Wiklund

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Indeed, those are my thoughts - hence my quick chat with the kernel team and them asking that I raise a bug with all the information I can lay my hands on! Feel free to add comments when you click the 'affects me'. The bug is now up and running, additional 'affects me' and comments will assist the

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-18 17:18, Nik Th wrote: > > > > >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Nio Wiklund >> >> Sent: 09/18/13 04:58 PM >> >> To: Nik Th >> >> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta >> >> >> On 2013-09-18 15:07, Nik Th wrote: >> > Possibly this is something to do with the in

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
I've just had a quick chat with kernel team and raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1227202 which has as much information as I can garner from this email thread. Can those affected please mark it as 'affects me'. Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 16:18, Nik Th wrote:

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi, I ran the saucy-desktop-i386.iso installer in the Toshiba with 768 MB RAM, 512 MB less than what was necessary earlier today. But I ran it without zRAM, and there was no freeze :-) So that convinces me, that it is the zRAM problem described by Leszek. I will do some more tests, but if I don't

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/18/2013 05:40 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: You can test it on your own by deactivating zram sudo swapoff /dev/zram0 sudo swapoff /dev/zram1 sudo rmmod zram and see if it freezes again. With zram enabled it should only freeze when really writing to those zram swapdevices otherwise no freeze sho

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, as my system locks up may be once every three days It would take quite some time to show stability. However I may give this a try... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735421#post12735421 I figured out a way to crash 3.11-rc1 every time, on this machine -- goto ->FB and play

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2013, 15:37:37 schrieb Phill Whiteside: > Thanks, > > I've just come accross > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735571#post12735571and > > sudo parted -l > > > also gives me > > Error: /dev/zram0: unrecognised disk label > > Error: /dev/zram1: un

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Thanks, I've just come accross http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735571#post12735571and sudo parted -l also gives me Error: /dev/zram0: unrecognised disk label Error: /dev/zram1: unrecognised disk label So, it is increasingly looking like zram is the culprit (or rather the

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2013, 15:22:33 schrieb Phill Whiteside: > Hi Leszek, > > do you have the upstream bug report from zram about this? Julien should be > successful in getting it into the ubuntu kernel if there is a bug and a fix. > I only found those linux kernel mailing list entry which

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Leszek, do you have the upstream bug report from zram about this? Julien should be successful in getting it into the ubuntu kernel if there is a bug and a fix. Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 15:14, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi! > > I think this information from Leszek is the key to solve

[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: AW: Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi! I think this information from Leszek is the key to solve the freezing problems. Best regards Nio Original Message Subject:AW: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:51:36 +0200 From: Leszek Lesner To: Nio Wiklund As for freezing we d

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
I'll do a zsync to the current desktop amd64 and re-run it under KVM. When it freezes I'll do a forced shut down and extract the contents of /var to see if there are any logs / messages there. (I love guestfish :) ) Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 14:58, Nio Wiklund wrote: > On 2013-09-

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-18 15:07, Nik Th wrote: > Possibly this is something to do with the installer (ubiquity package > maybe ? ) and is frequently encountered in Alpha/Beta versions (I have > seen similar problems in Unity and Gnome-shell in older Alpha/Beta > releases). > Hopefully will be fixed before stab

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Now we know that it freezes on your hardware too, Ali, The hotkey for print screen is gone, but I think you can print screen with the terminal window command scrot Best regards Nio On 2013-09-18 15:08, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > Ops O_o > > This is really bad! > > >- Machine: http://phillw.net/hardware/BnA9pw11 >- I shared 128MB from 512MB RAM for the Graphics (I can drop my RAM to >half and leave only 256MB for the system from BIOS) >- I boot

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Do not forget we had a new kernel series after the alphas! 3.11.x arrived about middle of August, Regards, Phill. On 18 September 2013 12:52, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> Hi Ali, >> >> Replies and comments inline ... >> >> Best regard

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> Hi Ali, >> >> Replies and comments inline ... >> >> Best regards/Nio >> >> On 2013-09-18 13:26, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Nio Wiklund

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi Ali, > > Replies and comments inline ... > > Best regards/Nio > > On 2013-09-18 13:26, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Nio Wiklund > > wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Ali, Replies and comments inline ... Best regards/Nio On 2013-09-18 13:26, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Nio Wiklund > wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > Hi my friend, > > > > Finally, I tested the newest daily build

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Hi my friend, > Finally, I tested the newest daily build (Sep 17 2013) of the 32-bit > Lubuntu saucy-desktop-i386.iso > > in the same machine and with the same conditions. > > RAM = 384, 512 MB, 768 MB > > Finished gracefu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody, Finally, I tested the newest daily build (Sep 17 2013) of the 32-bit Lubuntu saucy-desktop-i386.iso in the same machine and with the same conditions. RAM = 384, 512 MB, 768 MB Finished gracefully, but froze after I clicked reboot. Working system installed. RAM = 1024 MB No freez

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > I'm going to ask Ali to try this on actual hardware to see if it is a > gremlin in virtualisation or is a bug at the end of the installer. > > @ Ali, can you please test on 'real' hardware and report back - Thanks! > > Regards, > > Phil

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi again, This time testing the newest daily build (Sep 17 2013) of saucy-desktop-amd64.iso in my Toshiba (a direct install, no virtualisation) http://www.toshiba.se/laptops/satellite-pro/c850/satellite-pro-c850-19w/ using mem=xxxM to limit the RAM usage RAM = 512 MB, 768 MB and 1024 MB 1. F