Hi, I ran the saucy-desktop-i386.iso installer in the Toshiba with 768 MB RAM, 512 MB less than what was necessary earlier today. But I ran it without zRAM, and there was no freeze :-)
So that convinces me, that it is the zRAM problem described by Leszek. I will do some more tests, but if I don't report anything more today, I stay with this conclusion. Best regards Nio On 2013-09-18 16:55, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > as my system locks up may be once every three days It would take quite > some time to show stability. However I may give this a try... > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735421#post12735421 > > I figured out a way to crash 3.11-rc1 every time, on this machine -- > goto ->FB and play a Zynga flash game in Firefox. BooM! Repeatable > time-after-after. LoL! > > And see if it still will crash on demand, something we have been looking > for to further investigate! > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > On 18 September 2013 15:40, Leszek Lesner <leszek.les...@web.de > <mailto:leszek.les...@web.de>> wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2013, 15:37:37 schrieb Phill Whiteside: > > Thanks, > > > > I've just come accross > > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162655&p=12735571#post12735571and > > > > sudo parted -l > > > > > > also gives me > > > > Error: /dev/zram0: unrecognised disk label > > > > Error: /dev/zram1: unrecognised disk label > > > > So, it is increasingly looking like zram is the culprit (or rather > the fact > > it is the 'not working' version). > > > > > > > > It's way out of my depth now! But, from reading the ubuntu forums > post, it > > may also explain these random lock ups that (some of us) have been > seeing. > > > > You can test it on your own by deactivating zram > sudo swapoff /dev/zram0 > sudo swapoff /dev/zram1 > sudo rmmod zram > and see if it freezes again. > > With zram enabled it should only freeze when really writing to those > zram > swapdevices otherwise no freeze should appear. > > > > > On 18 September 2013 15:30, Leszek Lesner <leszek.les...@web.de > <mailto:leszek.les...@web.de>> wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2013, 15:22:33 schrieb Phill Whiteside: > > > > Hi Leszek, > > > > > > > > do you have the upstream bug report from zram about this? > Julien should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > successful in getting it into the ubuntu kernel if there is a > bug and a > > > > > > fix. > > > > > > > > > I only found those linux kernel mailing list entry which lead me > to the > > > fixes > > > in 3.12rc1 > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/19/17 > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/12/29 > > > > > > > On 18 September 2013 15:14, Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > I think this information from Leszek is the key to solve the > freezing > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Nio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > > Subject: AW: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:51:36 +0200 > > > > > From: Leszek Lesner <leszek.les...@web.de > <mailto:leszek.les...@web.de>> > > > > > To: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com > <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for freezing we discovered that since kernel 3.10.6 zram > is broken > > > > > which causes freezes and was fixed only completely in > 3.12rc1. We > > > > > backported that fixes in Neptune's Kernel I am not sure if > the ubuntu > > > > > kernel devs did the same. > > > > > > > > > > *Von: *Nio Wiklund > > > > > *Gesendet: *Mittwoch, 18. September 2013 15:39 > > > > > *An: *Ali Linx (amjjawad) > > > > > *Cc: *Lubuntu QA; Nik Th; Julien Lavergne > > > > > *Betreff: *Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we know that it freezes on your hardware too, Ali, > > > > > > > > > > The hotkey for print screen is gone, but I think you can > print screen > > > > > with the terminal window command > > > > > > > > > > scrot > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Nio > > > > > > > > > > On 2013-09-18 15:08, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) < > > > > > > amjja...@gmail.com <mailto:amjja...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > <mailto:amjja...@gmail.com <mailto:amjja...@gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ops O_o > > > > > > > > > > > > This is really bad! > > > > > > > > > > > > * Machine: http://phillw.net/hardware/BnA9pw11 > > > > > > * I shared 128MB from 512MB RAM for the Graphics (I can > drop my > > > > > > RAM to half and leave only 256MB for the system from BIOS) > > > > > > * I booted my machine from the LiveUSB - latest daily build > > > > > > (17-09-amd64) created by UNetbootin final version > > > > > > * Checked for Errors = passed > > > > > > * While on Desktop, I noticed that Print Screen does NOT > work!!!!!!! > > > > > > * Yes, I chose Try Lubuntu without installation > > > > > > * Chose "Something Else" > > > > > > * While on the partition screen, once I finished and clicked > > > > > > "Continue" O_o ... the system crashed and kicked me out to the > > > > > > Login Screen (LightDM) with Other as username!!!! > > > > > > * There are two systems installed on this machine and > there is 1GB > > > > > > RAM SWAP (I turned it off before installation) but usually, on > > > > > > the partitioning screen, it should be on. > > > > > > * I was trying to install Lubuntu on /dev/sda4 > > > > > > > > > > > > I will repeat one more time with Maximum possible RAM and > see but > > > > > > this is weird. Never had this, at least with Saucy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > > > > > Areas of Involvement > > > > > > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > > > > > > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have to file a bug against Ubiquity? > > > > > > > > > > > > I reduced the shared Graphics memory to 32MB (512-32) and > I did not > > > > > > touched SWAP Partition (1GB). Installation done > successfully except > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is frozen on the last step: > > > > > > > > > > > > Continue Testing Restart Now > > > > > > > > > > > > I clicked on Restart Now and the mouse is giving me the circle > > > > > > cursor > > > > > > (thinking) and the whole machine is frozen!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > And, before it freezes, Print Screen still does not work! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > > > > > Areas of Involvement < > > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > > > > > > > > > > > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> > > > > > Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net> > > > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa> > > > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp