Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Nathan Hjelm
sb-de...@lists.sourceforge.net, libusbx-de...@lists.sourceforge.net, > linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, libusb-win32-de...@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Monday, 24 September, 2012 9:31:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.09.24 20:26, Greg KH wrote: I would ask how this library update was tested if someone didn't, at the very least, test the most common application that uses the library? Ad hoc, and mostly, as far as I'm concerned, using our sample xusb and fxload test application and a selected list of

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Jure Menart
Cc: libusb-de...@lists.sourceforge.net, libusbx-de...@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, libusb-win32-de...@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, 24 September, 2012 9:31:29 PM Subject: Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:16:25PM +0300, K

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 24.9.2012 22.31, "Greg KH" wrote: > >Um, breaking existing applications is not indicative of that, don't you >agree? You never make bad calls and you think this was a deliberate attempt not to care for users? If you think it is a bug and a bad choice, why not say it, instead of writing down t

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:35:07PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > On 2012.09.24 20:31, Greg KH wrote: > >No one delivered any such "fix", all I got was a bunch of bug reports > >this morning from the distros saying that usbutils was suddenly broken. > >That shows that libusbx is really the problem her

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.09.24 20:31, Greg KH wrote: No one delivered any such "fix", all I got was a bunch of bug reports this morning from the distros saying that usbutils was suddenly broken. That shows that libusbx is really the problem here, and that maybe I shouldn't depend on it anymore. Could you please

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:16:25PM +0300, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > On 24.9.2012 21.47, "Greg KH" wrote: > > > >And if I'm going to be forced to change my program, and libusbx has now > >shown that they don't care about their public api, well, I might as well > >just rewrite it to remove that dependa

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:12:56PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/24/2012 08:50 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:36:11PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > >>Hi Greg, > >> > >>On 09/24/2012 05:07 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >>>On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Hans de Goed

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:20:10PM -0400, Sean McBride wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:47:27 -0700, Greg KH said: > > >No, you are forcing me to change my program to have it build with your > >change, you should do it the other way around. If you want programs to > >use your library, make it so t

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Sean McBride
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:47:27 -0700, Greg KH said: >No, you are forcing me to change my program to have it build with your >change, you should do it the other way around. If you want programs to >use your library, make it so that they don't have to be changed at all. > >And if I'm going to be forc

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 24.9.2012 21.47, "Greg KH" wrote: > >And if I'm going to be forced to change my program, and libusbx has now >shown that they don't care about their public api, well, I might as well >just rewrite it to remove that dependancy completly, as it's obvious >they don't know how to treat their users.

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.09.24 19:50, Greg KH wrote: Please fix this in libusbx, or bump the .so name so that tools can properly know that the API has changed, and that they want to build against the old one. Well, if you leave us no other alternative, then I guess my vote will be for option 2, especially as w

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 09/24/2012 08:50 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:36:11PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi Greg, On 09/24/2012 05:07 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 09/20/2012 11:42 PM, Pete Batard wrote: Hi, It with pleasure that

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:36:11PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On 09/24/2012 05:07 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>On 09/20/2012 11:42 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>It with pleasure that I would like

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 07:33:08PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > But the problem really is that libusb (and libusbx prior to v1.0.13) > has a typo that makes it deviate from the USB specs, which left > uswith 3 choices: > 1. leave the typo as is, and say "It's fine to deviate from the USB > specs for

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi Greg, On 09/24/2012 05:07 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 09/20/2012 11:42 PM, Pete Batard wrote: Hi, It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of libusbx 1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes:

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Pete Batard
On 2012.09.24 18:24, Greg KH wrote: I don't think so. Remember, usbutils is the _one_ libusb package that everyone has on their system. The fact that the libusbx release wasn't tested with that package makes me wonder how it was tested at all. Greg, We made the conscious decision to potentia

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 09/24/2012 05:03 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: Hi, It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of libusbx 1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes: * [MAJOR] Fix a typo in the API with struct libusb_confi

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Kustaa Nyholm
On 24.9.2012 18.03, "Greg KH" wrote: >libusbx as it's developers really don't care about their users. A bit richt, I think, to say that libusbx developers do not care about their users. To be constructive can you name the broken programs (in addition to the already mentioned 'usbutils' ), so tha

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 07:59:40PM +0300, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > On 24.9.2012 18.03, "Greg KH" wrote: > >libusbx as it's developers really don't care about their users. > > A bit richt, I think, to say that libusbx developers do not care > about their users. I don't think so. Remember, usbutils

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 03:52:55PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/20/2012 11:42 PM, Pete Batard wrote: > >Hi, > > > >It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of libusbx > >1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes: > > The Fedora packages for libusbx

Re: libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > Hi, > > It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of > libusbx 1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes: > > * [MAJOR] Fix a typo in the API with struct libusb_config_descriptor > where MaxPower was u

Re: [Libusbx-devel] libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-24 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 09/20/2012 11:42 PM, Pete Batard wrote: Hi, It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of libusbx 1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes: The Fedora packages for libusbx have been upgraded to 1.0.13 now. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this lis

libusbx-1.0.13 has been released

2012-09-20 Thread Pete Batard
Hi, It with pleasure that I would like to announce the release of libusbx 1.0.13. This version brings the following notable changes: * [MAJOR] Fix a typo in the API with struct libusb_config_descriptor where MaxPower was used instead of bMaxPower, as per the specs. If your application was a