cognizant of them.
I think this is close to a minimum for something that can generate any
desired config. I may have broken this somewhat tweaking it a bit to post,
but It's pretty handy when it works.
This is hereby public-domain-ified.
Rick Hohensee
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...
## drop copyright notices to the bottoms of C files in current dir and
# subs.
# /*
# CopYriGHt Guess Who 2001All reserves righted.
# */
grep -ilr "copyright" . > tempdropcopyrights
for f in `cat
n
Bash on. That's shasm in the same directory as Janet.
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Cheers,
>Al
>PS: hopefully - back for good.
That sounds like an especially fascinating pile of notes. Perhaps you
could pile it next to the patch on the ftp site?
Rick Hohensee
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:;ls -d */
Linux/dev/ h
ve code but implementing a true 2-stack
virtual machine, or true 2-stack silicon. This is quite unlike Java, for
example, which has Forth-like stack operators that are
returnstack-frame-scoped, i.e. aren't an autonomous second stack.
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My 3-stack machine and other
Go write yourself a real OS.
45k text OS design sketch. Forth meets UNIX meets AmigaDos meets INTERCAL
meets a Teletype Model 37.
ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/interim/design
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play that little ode to the joy of empiricism yourself.
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to 35 meg.
www.clienux.com
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pretty. I WANT BUGS! WHERE ARE
THE BUGS?
This is not a bogus bug report. This is a repeatable bug request.
Incorrectly yours,
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Linux version 2.4.0-test10 (@cLIeNUX) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #10 Thu Nov 9
03:11:45 2000
:; cLI
pmode, the other screen noise is straight pmode.
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The newsgroup is comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware.
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t;/" below. That could
easily be Japanese, Mandarin, Hindi, etc.
ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/descriptive/DSFH.html
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Linux//dev// help// mounts// suite//
boot// dev
ct 1.6:1 is representative though.
That interests me quite a lot. Is the exact ratio known? Has anyone ever
built a 100% inlined kernel?
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If you mean "->" as "specifically calls" then that looks like cooperative
multi-tasking, which is what kernel threads AND the Linux userland
scheduler do. If an in-kernel thread doesn't call schedule, it keeps the
CPU. See the H3rL stuff in ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/
The C-names-in-asms stuff is explained in (g?)as.info. The explanation is
a bit strained, but after the third or fourth read it becomes fairly
sensible.
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Why does Linux have a mktime routine fully coded in linux/time.h that
conflicts directly with the ANSI C standard library routine of the same
name? It breaks a couple things against libc5, including gcc 3.0. OK, you
don't care about libc5. It's still pretty weird. Wierd? Weird.
Ric
ch sucks*, but whatever), is to LGPL
or "KGPL" the kernel. What is being allowed now is in violation of the
GPL.
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*How 'bout a nice binary-only Forth running the kernel? Metacompiling
kernel routines into the Forth dictionary and such. Sound creep
>
> At 1:43 PM +0200 2001-06-22, Erik Mouw wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:30:40PM -0400, Rick Hohensee wrote:
> >> Why does Linux have a mktime routine fully coded in linux/time.h that
> >> conflicts directly with the ANSI C standard library routine of th
urce OS for end-users should be very serious about
simplicity, and not just pay lip-service to it. There is evidence of the
value of this in the marketplace. What doesn't exist is an OS where
simplicity is systemic. This is why end-user issues pertain to the kernel
at all. This is how open sourc
>
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote:
> >2.4.5 is 26 meg now. It's time to consider forking the kernel. Alan has
> >already stuck his tippy-toe is that pool, and his toe is fine.
> >
> > forget POSIX
> > The standards that ma
>
> Rick Hohensee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 2.4.5 is 26 meg now. It's time to consider forking the kernel. Alan has
> > already stuck his tippy-toe is that pool, and his toe is fine.
>
> Stop that nonsense. Alan Cox has _not_ forked anything, neither ha
HELLO???
ANY GEEKS IN HERE?
ANY OF YOU TURKEYS GOOD WITH PROBLEM-SOLVING?
My hastily concocted proposed solution remains at...
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/install/clienux/interim/amicus_curae
WHERE'S YOURS?
Rick Hohensee
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in a helpful and substantive way
that will be of more benefit than any work directly on Linux itself can
be, to the computer world generally and to Linux.
Rick Hohensee
:; cLIeNUX /dev/tty3 11:09:49 /
:;d
ABOUTLinuxboot floppy mounts temp
ABOUT.Linux Net
that is not in
evidence here is that this thing on Plan 9 could build asmlinkbuild for
itself on the fly based on #pragma's in the headers that simply state what
library they are the header for. This to me is so obviously an improvement
to the usual state of affairs, an ornate system of dead-ends, as
t to mention that certain things simply cannot be done that way.
>
Don't tell me that. Then I can't use my subroutine-threaded Forth
variant, in which + is a subroutine call. ;o)
Anyway, yes it's a performance hit to not inline asms. Is it worth the
bletchery? It's worth
>
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:37:28PM -0400, Rick Hohensee wrote:
> > That's with the GNU tools, without asm(), and without proper declaration
> > of printf, as is my tendency. I don't actually return an int either, do I?
> > LAAETTR.
>
> Under ISO C rul
>Now, you could probably argue that instead of inline asms we should have
>more flexibility in doing a per-callee calling convention. That would be
>good too, no question about it.
>
>Linus
>
Today's flamebait has been postponed. Happy July 4th
hey could get several of them,
hundreds maybe, on FPGAs available now. Such things are coming, because a
Forth chip IS something an individual can design.
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e tiny and draw negligible current. Two URL's...
http://forth.gsfc.nasa.gov/
http://www.mindspring.com/chipchuck/forth.html
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the topic-skew, please have a browse at
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t's 100% Bash. FLAGS looks funny,
but I dono. Season to taste.
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ists from address 04.
Execbase, my old IRC nick :o)
Richards now has a beta port of Tripos to run on Linux called Cintpos.
It's in BCPL of course, which nowadays can compile itself in 8 seconds on
a P450. I had the pleasure of getting a thankyou from mr for noting that
you have to enab
nt traps and so on. I don't know about kgdb, which is a wrapper
for the userland GNU symbolic debugger. gdb requires compiling the kernel
with debugging information inserted everywhere.
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I thought my mail client was doing "reply to all recipients". If it _was_
then this is redundant and I apologize.
>
>
> On Tue, 1 May 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote:
>
> > (kspamd) is the Linux-side wrapper for H3sm
>
> C|N>K
>
> OK, you
's continue?
Might this be easier to do in a 2.0 kernel?
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how many worlds of trouble I didn't foresee
in _reading_ a tty from the kernel :o)
If someone knows of another example of interpreter-like behavior
directly in a unix in-kernel thread I'd like to know about it.
Rick Hohensee
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The userland H3sm is in
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de
hat runs in trap handlers doesn't it? I don't think it's a kernel daemon.
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n't it? I don't think it's a
> > kernel daemon.
>
> and there's the hangman-in-kernel patch...
> interpreter or daemon or app-in-system-space ???
Thanks, I'll look for that.
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> ~Randy
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the H3sm pointer stack. nanosleep and read are H3sm stack-passing
wrappers for the syscalls. HANDOFF is a macro for a stack-push-wrapped
schedule(). It's a macro because I suspect I'm going to have to sprinkle
it judiciously around H3sm. The nanosleep keeps my load average normal.
and the Linux source crossreferencing site at
http://lxr.linux.no/
is awesome.
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etc. ? If you look at majors, say, as a binary tree which you
walk in accordance with the bits in the major, can drivers nest like that?
I've wondered about that for a long time for various reasons.
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nprotected mode I discovered on the 386. But other than that it'll
be "an old time-sharing system", to use the Bell Labs description.
The curious should investigate the Forreal.tgz package in cLIeNUX/interim.
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