Re: Drop support for x86-32

2012-08-29 Thread david
SS) I've heard that there are radiation hardened versions of the 80486 (I could be wrong, it's not something that I've ever needed to investigate) David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majo

Re: [PATCH] make CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL invisible and default

2012-10-03 Thread david
ge: my experimental options are not your experimental options. Remember that new features/drivers should be defaulting to 'n' in any case. It's a rare feature that has no drawbacks (if only in the kernel size, which is an issue for small devices). If there really are no drawbacks to somethi

Re: udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait()

2012-10-05 Thread david
t even though udev 189 was recently released, the not-yet-released Ubuntu 10.10 is going to be including udev 175. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http:/

Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers

2012-10-24 Thread david
hreads, etc) would be implemented on top of existing filesystems. Most of what you are describing seems like it requires access to the underlying storage to implement. could you give a more detailed explination? David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe lin

Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers

2012-10-24 Thread david
hasn't had it's fsync() complete will be the only thing that is lost. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers

2012-10-24 Thread david
hrough the stack" If the hardware is going to reorder things once it hits the hardware, this is going to hurt performance (how much depends on a lot of stuff) but the filesystems are able to make their journals work, so there should be some way to let userspace do some sort of

Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers

2012-10-25 Thread david
e a good way to deal with this? I believe that ext4 can put the journal on a different device from the filesystem, would this help a lot? If you were to put the journal for an ext4 filesystem on a ram disk, you would loose the data recovery protection of the journal, but could you use this trick t

Re: [sqlite] light weight write barriers

2012-10-25 Thread david
, without having to specify "write this NOW", the solution would be pretty obvious. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Minimal jitter = good desktop.

2012-10-05 Thread david
is how long it takes to do something, jitter is how much the latency varies. normally, if you optimize for one you make the other worse. If you optimize for latency, you try to finish everything as soon as you can. Since some things take longer than others, jitter increases. David Lang On

Re: [PATCH] resubmit w1_therm:Retries:remove old code add CRC

2012-12-17 Thread david
retries. Signed-off-by: David Stevenson diff --git a/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c b/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c index 92d08e7..5ef583d 100644 --- a/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c +++ b/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c @@ -45,10 +45,6 @@ MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Driver for 1-wire Dallas network pro

Re: Gaming and the kernel

2012-08-03 Thread david
think that the Linux kernel has in supporting games? Drivers are bad due to the video card vendors opting to not provide the information needed for them to be good, so while I wish they were better, I don't really see anything for the "Linux kernel community" to do. David La

Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.

2008-02-21 Thread david
n watching for kexec hibernate for a little while now, and the last I saw was that acpi was incompatible with the kexec hibernate (but the suspend folks were still claiming that devices needed to be put in the 'right mode' not just powered off. I've been waiting to see this resol

Re: Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-07 Thread david
as anyone chooses to use the old equipment (after all, we support things like Arcnet networking, which lost to Ethernet many years ago) David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo inf

Re: Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

2008-02-08 Thread david
drives in a commodity PC, run software RAID, and then export the resulting volume to other servers via iSCSI. not a 'real' SCSI device in sight. David, your question surprises me a lot. From where have you decided that SCST supports only pass-through backstorage? Does the RAM disk, wh

Re: [RFC] firmware load: defer request_firmware during early boot and resume

2012-07-21 Thread david
it make sense for there to be some mechanism that can add firmware to the kernel image after the fact so that it can create a 'cache' of the firmware needed for the particular system as part of that systems kernel image? David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line &qu

[PATCH] w1_therm:Retries:remove old code add CRC

2012-12-17 Thread david
retries. Patch is against Raspberry 3.2.27 ( my test hardware) but has also been tested against 3.7. David Stevenson david at avoncliff.com diff --git a/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c b/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c index 016dd7d..8166075 100644 --- a/drivers/w1/slaves/w1_therm.c +++ b/drivers/w1

Re: 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected

2012-09-27 Thread david
ying to figure out the perfect thing to do. and since the perfect thing to do is going to be both workload and chip specific, trying to model that in your decision making is a lost cause. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected

2012-09-27 Thread david
e worth it. Give how chips change from year to year, I don't see how the 'better guessing' is going to survive more than a couple of chip releases in any case. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of

Re: 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected

2012-09-27 Thread david
t to move the process as little as possible, just enough to eliminate whatever the contended resource it. But since you really don't know the footprint of each process in each of these layers, all you can measure is what percentage of the total core time the process used, just move it a lit

Re: 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected

2012-09-27 Thread david
with the overload where one master process is kicking off many child processes and the core that the master process starts off on gets overloaded as a result, with the question being how to spread the load out from this one core as it gets overloaded. David Lang Measuring resource conten

Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.

2008-02-22 Thread david
de hibernation, so it's not a fair statement to say that it's the 'right' thing to do. If you want to make it an option, fine. But please give those of us who don't care about these other wakeup options, and who want to be able to use other OS's while linux is

To: davidel@xmailserver.org [Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details]

2001-04-08 Thread David
Your email address seems to be broken ;) I tried from different networks. rcpt to:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550 Relay denied -d The original message was received at Sun, 8 Apr 2001 14:48:51 -0700 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [208.179.59.198] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors

Re: goodbye || alternatives

2001-04-09 Thread David
Or you can do as I have and setup port 26 SMTP, thereby routing around nazi ISP created damage. Believe me, the damage that RBL, ORBS, etc can do is incredible. I still use them, but I use them carefully and I provide escape routes for people who are still under a global everybody-is-guilty-

Re: [OT] Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread David
> > >> So, Mr. Admin, setup your laptop to use SSL to your SMTP and POP >> server and authenticate with a client side certificate on your >> laptop. Welcome to the 21st century. You may, however, need a little >> more infrastructure than you can pull from your favourite distribution >> box. > >

Re: 2.4.3+ sound distortion

2001-04-22 Thread David
f the blue in the middle of playing a sound. All sound programs are equally affected. It's only done this in the 2.4 series, I haven't had the desire to look into it. David Mike Castle wrote: >On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Victor Julien wrote: > >>I have a

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread David
I can say "me too" for this. I thought it was perhaps glibc or binutils tho. I only have reiserfs systems now so I don't have a basis for comparison. However I -can- say that I didn't experience this until I put glibc 2.2.1 on my systems. I do use an "approved" gcc, stock 2.95.2. I wouldn'

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread David
> Well, I run glibc-2.2.1 as well, so that might be one of the factors > contributing to this. Then again, glibc-2.2.1 with ext2 does not cause any > problems whatsoever with mozilla. So it could be that reiserfs + glibc-2.2.1 is > a bad combination, question remains which of these two is the culp

Re: [2.4.1] system goes glacial, Reiser on /usr doesn't sync

2001-02-20 Thread David
Kevin Turner wrote: > Version: > Linux version 2.4.1-pre12 (gcc version 2.95.3 20010125 (prerelease)) > > Possible suspect players: > dpkg seems to trigger the bug > ReiserFS is the partition that doesn't sync > binfmt_misc shows up in the call traces. > > Symptoms: > > The system assum

Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac4

2001-02-25 Thread David
Alan Cox wrote: > Not currently on > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ > until its happy again. > > For the moment get it from > > ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/2.4-ac > > 2.4.2-ac4 Does this have any fixings for the RSS and CPU mis-

Posible bug in gcc

2001-02-26 Thread David
the problem is with the option -fstrength-reduce which is active with the common '-O2' optimization option. 2. Uncomment the printf at line 34. Bugs are surprising. I have also sent the bug report to the gcc maintainers. Is it really a bug? Thank you, David Llorens. /* #includ

Re: binfmt_script and ^M

2001-02-27 Thread David
Alistair Riddell wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Heusden, Folkert van wrote: > >> But; it's not that much of hassle to run it trough some awk/sed/whatsoever >> script, would it? Imho there should be as less as possible code in the > > > man fromdos (on most linux systems anyway) > tr -d '\r' <

Re: 2.4.2 TCP window shrinking

2001-03-02 Thread David
David S. Miller wrote: > We need desperately to know exactly what OS the xxx.xxx.1.14 machine > is running. Because you've commented out the first two octets, I > cannot check this myself using nmap. I see them all the time on my sites. I have active mirrors so they abound.

TCP window shrinkers

2001-03-02 Thread David
http://stuph.org/tcp-window-shrinkers.txt is a list of 825 systems that generate this message. -d - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please rea

Re: [Fwd: [LARTC] 1 adsl + 1 sdsl + masq + simultaneous incomming routes]

2001-03-02 Thread David
> > >>> The problem: I am able to have the web server use one or the other dsl, but not >>> both at the same time. >>> >>> If I have web set to sdsl, replies to queries that came from adsl go out on the >>> sdsl link. Also since masq is involved, it also responds with the sdsl ip. >>> >>> How

Re: TCP window shrinkers

2001-03-02 Thread David
David wrote: > http://stuph.org/tcp-window-shrinkers.txt is a list of 825 systems > that generate this message. Following up.., I scripted an nmap run, it is in html ;) http://stuph.org/tcp-window-shrinkers.nmap.html Format is: IP dns lookup nmap results [O

2.4 VM question

2001-03-03 Thread David
Is there a particular reason why 2.4 insists on stuffing as much as possible into swap? It's particularly frustrating to experience the slowdown and lag while the disk grinds. I have 256M in this machine. Right now I have 180+ megs free and I am 120 megs into swap. Netscape and Mozilla are

USB problem, bug since 2.4.2-ac5

2001-03-04 Thread David
In ac5 the USB or related changes broke things for this system I upgraded, this bug still exists in ac11. I get the following messages on the order of about 50/second. usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 20, frame# 0 usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 30, frame# 0 They repeat forever evenly, 20-30-20-30.

big memory maping problim

2001-01-04 Thread david
work fine is their any thing else i need to do ? remap_pages_range did not work on this mem but dose work on other address spaces ? Thank You David Rundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [E

file ops in kernel

2001-01-06 Thread david
hi all i now need to read a file from in the kernel 2.2.x dose any one know how to this ? thank you David Rundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read

new kernel mm

2001-01-06 Thread david
hi all can i rewrite the mm system in kernel's 2.2.18 to add new and needed functions or may be it can be a compile option old (mm system or new mm system) ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FA

es1371 module dependencies problem

2001-01-11 Thread David
kernel: 2.4.0 modutils: 2.3.23 loading the es1371 module gives me the following error: /lib/modules/2.4.0/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o: unresolved symbol ac97_probe_codec_Rsmp_1c61c357 soundcore.o loads ok, but es1371 not. Looking through the sources, i've found that ac97_codec.c exports the s

test only do not read

2001-01-17 Thread david
this is just a test - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

need help raid and 2.4.0

2001-01-17 Thread david
.53 undir 2.4.0 i get a lot of error in string.h (i am runing debian 2.2r2) i configured the kernel can someone help me i am reconfigering my raid set and i have a big drive to hold the data but i only have it for 1 day thank you David Rundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from

off topic a bit but i realy need help c++ and kernel

2000-11-07 Thread david
stuck also is there a down loadable book on c++ as i am just learning from others ppl code and really need a book to do it right thank you david rundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>              

fpu now a must in kernel

2000-11-08 Thread david
! i do not wont to do it this way it is not the right way) so i have to use fpu in the kernel so its just how am i going to do it ? thank you David Rundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a m

kernel2.2.x get_vm_area

2001-01-02 Thread david
symbule . this cmd can be very nice for doing your one maping (maybe even you own page_faults) will i thort of using ioremap the access get_vm_area but i will not give me linear virt so what can i do pleas help thank you David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I will have source with my chips thankyou!

Re: conducting TCP sessions with non-local IPs

2001-03-06 Thread David
> So, if I configure the interface as suggested ("/sbin/ip addr add > 10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0") can I really bind to any IP in 10.0.0.0/24 and > conduct TCP sessions (as a client or server) using that IP--assuming all > the ARP, etc, issues are worked out? hostA: ip a a 10.0.0.0/24 brd + dev lo hos

[OOPS] report

2001-03-15 Thread David
2.4.2-ac4 Mar 15 18:02:49 Huntington-Beach kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:41 (hdd), sector 9512 Mar 15 18:02:49 Huntington-Beach kernel: hdd: drive not ready for command Mar 15 18:02:48 Huntington-Beach kernel: hdd: drive not ready for command Mar 15 18:02:49 Huntington-Beach kernel: hdd

[OT] Re: Linux connectivity trashed.

2001-03-29 Thread David
Might I suggest seeking a new employer whose IT department doesn't seek the smell of fresh fertilizer compounds about their head and neck. -d Richard B. Johnson wrote: > This is for information only. > > Last week a standard RH distribution of Linux was rooted from what looks > like a Russia

toshiba(freecom) USB cdrom kernel panic

2001-05-29 Thread david
Hi I have strange problems with my Toshiba(actually Freecom) USB cdrom cable. inserting the usb-storage takes some minutes, until it returns. Then mounting the cdrom works, but when i started copying from cd, a kernel panic occured. It happens every time, i try to copy something from cd. Kernel i

Re: [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support

2008-01-06 Thread david
modules to autoload, why can't scripts be written to figure out what drives to build into a system? David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-

Re: [PATCH 2/5] USB Kconfig: Select SCSI for USB Mass Storage support

2008-01-06 Thread david
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Stefan Richter wrote: David Lang wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Stefan Richter wrote: Module autoloading is quite different. but if boot scripts can figure out what modules to autoload, why can't scripts be written to figure out what drives to build into a system? Be

Re: git guidance

2007-12-07 Thread david
d output, so that each print statement becomes visable to other programs immediatly)? what if the file is changed via mmap? should each byte/word written to memory be a commit? or when the mmap is closed? or when the kernel happens to flush the page to disk? 'recording every cha

RE: [patch/backport] CFS scheduler, -v24, for v2.6.24-rc3, v2.6.23.8,v2.6.22.13, v2.6.21.7

2007-11-19 Thread David
out a cast kernel/sched.c:7132: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kernel/sched.c:7133: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kernel/sched.c:7133: error: 'SD_LOAD_BALANCE' undeclared (first use in this function) kernel/sched.c:7126: warning: unused variable &

Re: [patch/backport] CFS scheduler, -v24, for v2.6.24-rc3, v2.6.23.8,v2.6.22.13, v2.6.21.7

2007-11-19 Thread David
El Lunes, 19 de Noviembre de 2007, Ingo Molnar escribió: > * David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Ingo, > > > > Thnx a lot for theses backports... > > > > Ran into this while compiling a 2.6.23.8 with CFS v24 > > > > Compiling with CONFIG_FAIR

Re: [patch/backport] CFS scheduler, -v24, for v2.6.24-rc3, v2.6.23.8,v2.6.22.13, v2.6.21.7

2007-11-19 Thread David
El Lunes, 19 de Noviembre de 2007, Ingo Molnar escribió: > * David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have removed all other patches, and applied only cfs v24 above > > 2.6.23.8, and the compiler ran into (with CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED > > enabled): > > does the patc

Re: [patch/backport] CFS scheduler, -v24, for v2.6.24-rc3, v2.6.23.8,v2.6.22.13, v2.6.21.7

2007-11-20 Thread David
El Martes, 20 de Noviembre de 2007, Ingo Molnar escribió: > * David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > El Lunes, 19 de Noviembre de 2007, Ingo Molnar escribió: > > > * David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have removed all other patches, and applied on

Re: [PATCH 0/1] IPN: Inter Process Networking

2007-12-17 Thread david
e the same data-agnostic communication that you are looking for, and with the minor detail that software would have to filter out messages that they send, would appear to meet all the goals you are looking at, useing existing kernel features that are designed to be very high performance. David

Re: [PATCH 0/1] IPN: Inter Process Networking

2007-12-17 Thread david
familiar enough with ptrace vs utrace to know this argument. but I haven't heard any of the virtualization people complaining about the existing interfaces. They seem to have been happily useing them for a number of years. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "un

Re: [PATCH 0/1] IPN: Inter Process Networking

2007-12-17 Thread david
from any source (pipe, kernel-space networking, userspace networking) all require system calls to transfer the data. so saying that receiving data from a pipe involes overhead on all receiving processes in a non-issue. --- (the following is not related to IPN but i wanted to answer this too) th

Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode

2008-01-25 Thread david
ate disk and make it big enough that you don't block on it to flush the data to the filesystem (but not so big that it is consuming all of your RAM). my understanding is that the journal is limited to 128M or so. This prevents you from making it big enough to avoid all problems. David Lang

Re: [RFC] Parallelize IO for e2fsck

2008-01-28 Thread david
mem at all not to mention machines with 1G of ram (900M lowmem, 128M highmem) David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Pl

Plugs & Sockets

2005-02-25 Thread David
us know. We will be happy to give you a quotation upon receipt of your detailed requirements. We look forward to receiving your enquires soon. Sincerely, David Chow (Mr.) Company: Andian Industry Co., Ltd. http://andian.b2bleague.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 86-757-27336845 Fax

test

2001-07-07 Thread david
this is a test - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: kernel panic with 2.4.x and reiserfs

2001-04-27 Thread david
To your complaint, I have to add my kudos. I frequently run into crashes and I have only had reiserfs filesystem that I had to rebuild in well over a year of using it on half a dozen workstations. I use 2.4 exclusively and have often had "premature restarts". David Tony H

Re: * Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-05-01 Thread David
something is stuck in cache and what's on disk isn't what's in cache and a second process for some reason gets what is on disk and not what is in cache. It happens infrequently but it -does- happen. David Frank de Lange wrote: >Well, > >When a puzzled Alexey wondered

[OOPS] Quicknet PhoneJACK usage in 2.4.4 isn't a good thing

2001-05-03 Thread David
crash. Sometimes just the inbound ringing is sufficient to crash. The CVS version of these modules doesn't kill the machine but it still OOPS and a reboot is necessary to remove the broken modules. Here is an oops of the module loading. I'll be posting more oopses as I can catch th

Re: [OOPS] Quicknet PhoneJACK usage in 2.4.4 isn't a good thing

2001-05-03 Thread David
Here's the followup with the CVS (5/3/2001) version of ixj.o and phonedev.o. First inbound call was fine, answered, sent voice data, pushed buttons, all is well. Second inbound call crashed the modules. All further attempts to route a call to it have failed. Unable to handle kernel paging r

Re: [PATCH] Fixes for Incorrect kmalloc() Sizes

2001-05-09 Thread David
whole machine. David david chan wrote: >Hi, > >These two patches fix silly kmalloc errors that allocate too little space. > > >Thank you, >David Chan > > >---snip--- >--- drivers/sound/emu10k1/midi.c.orig Fri Feb 9 11:30:23 2001 >+++ drivers/sound/emu10k1/midi.c

Re: AppArmor Security Goal

2007-11-10 Thread david
s to the fd, the only way to find them would be to search the entire filesystem. as a result App Armor has decided not to try and address this, but is documenting it as a limitation. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: AppArmor Security Goal

2007-11-10 Thread david
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: Can you explain why you want a non-privileged user to be able to edit policy? I would like to better understand the problem here. I think it might depend on how strict the users starting point is; you could say: 1 This document editor can

Re: AppArmor Security Goal

2007-11-10 Thread david
ness isn't down the road a little bit. since the users policy would only apply to themselves, you have the situation that (DAC permissions permitting) the files are available to other confined processes becouse they are running as other users. this sort of thing will surprise people if the

Re: AppArmor Security Goal

2007-11-10 Thread david
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, John Johansen wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 03:52:31PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: Allowing a user to tweak (under constraints) their settings might allow them to do something like create two mozilla profiles which

Re: [poll] Is the megafreeze development model broken?

2007-11-12 Thread david
are 3-6 months of testing and bugfixing. this is very true. the big question is which side of the fork has more testing and bugfixes? the distro with their paid developers, or the kernel.org kernel with the input from many different distros and the rest of the community. David Lang - To unsu

Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread david
nel not seeing discussions on the other lists) David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Soft lockups since stable kernel upgrade to 2.6.23.8

2007-11-17 Thread David
x23c/0x241 > [] unknown_bootoption+0x0/0x196 > Confirmed on my server machine. Seems to coincide with cpufreq processor speed changes. Config available on request, (system is also a single core athlon) Cheers David > === > BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! > [

Re: [stable] Soft lockups since stable kernel upgrade to 2.6.23.8

2007-11-17 Thread David
is down? > This is the culprit, reverting fixes the issue. Cheers David --- a/kernel/softlockup.c +++ b/kernel/softlockup.c @@ -80,10 +80,11 @@ void softlockup_tick(void) print_timestamp = per_cpu(print_timestamp, this_cpu); /* report at most once a second */ - if (pr

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-25 Thread david
b) Not waste vast amounts of money on a useless expensive lock who said the lock was expensive? and while you are not willing to spend money on a lock you are willing to spend (much more) money on an insurance policy. David Lang c) Make sure the bike looked not worth stealing d) Take the

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-30 Thread david
can be used wrong doesn't mean that there aren't other cases where it can be used properly. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordo

Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

2007-10-30 Thread david
be. which bits into which security features? Good, knowledgable people can't agree on what's right. ending the bitrot just requires accepting the LSMs into the kernel as first-class options, it doesn't require declaring any one LSM (or even any part of any one LSM) as being

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-19 Thread david
three different and working implementation of the image-writing and image-reading code at our disposal. Why would you want to break the open doors? becouse you say that the current methods won't work without ACPI support. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "uns

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
ve this work prevent the non-ACPI hibernation from progressing. this isn't that we don't want the ACPI support eventually, it's in the spirit of 'perfection is the enemy of good enough' David Lang This DOESN'T mean that the non-ACPI hibernation should be unsupp

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
and there's no competition for resources. as long as what you are trying to save is <=50% of ram (at least with some implementations). if you are trying to save more then 50% of ram with some current implmenetations you just can't David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
f you try to save all the ram you will fail (in some cases becouse you are trying to save ram that doesn't exist). so at the very least we need to get a list that tells us what _can_ be saved. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
of kexeced kernel can be backuped too. There are "scatter copy" support in normal kexec implementation in "relocate_kernel". what do you mean by "scatter swap"? David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the bo

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
like the blocks allocated to the journal, alloate them once and never touch them again you especially do not want to try and write something to them from the main system just before suspending, you don't know enough about what it takes to get the data to the media to be absolutly sure t

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
a suspend-to-ram you get to a point where you just don't use any userspace. from that point on you are just walking the device tree putting things into low-power mode. This is the point where we are talking about jumping to. david Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "un

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
;t schedule) where freezing gets hard is when you need to partially freeze either one of these. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordom

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
that's a much cleaner answer then what I was thinking, so I'll go with it instead ;-) David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
annot be made small enough. and this should be detectable by the process that's pinning memory (this can be a kernel process) so that it stops before the OOM killer is triggered, even if that means that it returns 'unable to fit' David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send t

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-20 Thread david
ge what do you mean by system-wide suspend runtime suspend David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-21 Thread david
eck after the resume then where's the problem? David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-21 Thread david
on. even without suspend I've sen these drivers get out of sync with reality, and so such a function call would be useful to get them back in sync in any case. if such a 'check reality' function was available it should be straightforward to call it after a non-ACPI hibrnate/r

Re: long-term regression

2007-07-21 Thread david
size the files are posted at http://linux.lang.hm/linux let me know what else I can send to help. David Lang I suggest that you test 2.6.22-rcN using one or both of these boot options: noisapnp pnpacpi=off Somewhere between 2.6.18 and 2.6.22-development, the ACPI config symbol also starting

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-21 Thread david
overwritten by the second kernel). if you aren't talking about memory that will be used by the second kernel why do you need to move it? David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More major

Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-21 Thread david
it's accpetable for a driver to cache what mode it thinks the device is in, but it needs to properly set the new mode even if it's cached data is incorrect. this approach would allow the transition of ALL drivers to the new mode of operation in one fell swoop, and then adding addition

Power Management framework proposal

2007-07-21 Thread david
features is just adding to the existing list rather then implementing new functions. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [linux-pm] Power Management framework proposal

2007-07-22 Thread david
while I was describing the issues to my roomates over dinner I realized that the same type of functions are needed for the CPU clocks. if you have an accepted framework in place there that can do what I described, please consider extending it to cover other types of devices and drivers.

Re: Power Management framework proposal

2007-07-22 Thread david
nd that is just a mistake. I'm proposing a single function name per device, not a single function for the entire system. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http:

Re: [linux-pm] Power Management framework proposal

2007-07-22 Thread david
reate a very trivial power manager that can know nothing about the system other then the info found in this API and the hirarchy of devices, but can transition the system between three easily explained modes. A. full power operation B. off C. as low a power mode as is available on the hardware

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