Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-09 Thread Zlatko Calusic
Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > > Mike> OK, riddle me this. If this test is a crummy test, just how is > > Mike> it that I was able to warn Rik in advance that when 2.4.5 was > > Mike> released, he should expect complaints? How did I _k

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mark Hahn
> reads the RTC device. The patched RTC driver can then > measure the elapsed time between the interrupt and the > read from userspace. Voila: latency. interesting, but I'm not sure there's much advantage over doing it entirely in user-space with the normal /dev/rtc: http://brain.mcmas

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote: > >> On the subject of Mike Galbraith's kernel compilation test, how much > >> physical RAM does he have for his machine, what type of CPU is it, and what > >> (approximate) type of device does he use for swap? I'll see if I can > >> partially duplicate

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > > More importantly, a *repeatable* set of tests is what is needed to > > test the VM and get consistent results from run to run, so you can see > > how your changes are impacting performance. The kernel comp

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Tobias Ringstrom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Tobias Ringstrom wrote: > > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) > > > > while testing some other stu

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morton
>> On the subject of Mike Galbraith's kernel compilation test, how much >> physical RAM does he have for his machine, what type of CPU is it, and what >> (approximate) type of device does he use for swap? I'll see if I can >> partially duplicate his results at this end. So far all my tests have

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote: > On the subject of Mike Galbraith's kernel compilation test, how much > physical RAM does he have for his machine, what type of CPU is it, and what > (approximate) type of device does he use for swap? I'll see if I can > partially duplicate his results

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > I agree, this isn't really a good test case. I'd rather see what > > happens when you fire up a gimp session to edit an image which is > > *almost* the size of RAM, or even just 50% the size of ram. > > OK,

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Andrew Morton
Jonathan Morton wrote: > > [ Re-entering discussion after too long a day and a long sleep... ] > > >> There is the problem in terms of some people want pure interactive > >> performance, while others are looking for throughput over all else, > >> but those are both extremes of the spectrum. Tho

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Jonathan Morton
[ Re-entering discussion after too long a day and a long sleep... ] >> There is the problem in terms of some people want pure interactive >> performance, while others are looking for throughput over all else, >> but those are both extremes of the spectrum. Though I suspect >> raw throughput is t

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > Marcelo> Now the stock kernel gives us crappy interactivity compared > Marcelo> to my patch. (Note: my patch still does not gives me the > Marcelo> interactivity I want under high VM loads, but I hope to get > Marcelo> there soon). > > This raises t

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread John Stoffel
Marcelo> Now the stock kernel gives us crappy interactivity compared Marcelo> to my patch. (Note: my patch still does not gives me the Marcelo> interactivity I want under high VM loads, but I hope to get Marcelo> there soon). This raises the important question, how can we objectively measure in

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > Mike> OK, riddle me this. If this test is a crummy test, just how is > Mike> it that I was able to warn Rik in advance that when 2.4.5 was > Mike> released, he should expect complaints? How did I _know_ that? > Mike> The answer is that I fiddle with

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Tobias Ringstrom
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Tobias Ringstrom wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) > > > while testing some other stuff today. > > > > Could you please explain what is good

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > Mike> OK, riddle me this. If this test is a crummy test, just how is > Mike> it that I was able to warn Rik in advance that when 2.4.5 was > Mike> released, he should expect complaints? How did I _know_ that? > Mike> The answer is that I fiddle with Rik

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread John Stoffel
Mike> OK, riddle me this. If this test is a crummy test, just how is Mike> it that I was able to warn Rik in advance that when 2.4.5 was Mike> released, he should expect complaints? How did I _know_ that? Mike> The answer is that I fiddle with Rik's code a lot, and I test Mike> with this test b

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, John Stoffel wrote: > > "Tobias" == Tobias Ringstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tobias> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > >> I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) > >> while testing some other stuff today. > > Tobias> Could y

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Tobias Ringstrom wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) > > while testing some other stuff today. > > Could you please explain what is good about this test? I understand that > it will stress

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread John Stoffel
> "Tobias" == Tobias Ringstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tobias> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: >> I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) >> while testing some other stuff today. Tobias> Could you please explain what is good about this test? I Tob

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Tobias Ringstrom
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: > I gave this a shot at my favorite vm beater test (make -j30 bzImage) > while testing some other stuff today. Could you please explain what is good about this test? I understand that it will stress the VM, but will it do so in a realistic and relevant w

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote: > http://www.chromatix.uklinux.net/linux-patches/vm-update-2.patch > > Try this. I can't guarantee it's SMP-safe yet (I'm leaving the gurus to > that, but they haven't told me about any errors in the past hour so I'm > assuming they aren't going to find

Re: VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-07 Thread Jonathan Morton
At 12:29 am +0100 8/6/2001, Shane Nay wrote: >(VM report at Marcelo Tosatti's request. He has mentioned that rather than >complaining about the VM that people mention what there experiences were. I >have tried to do so in the way that he asked.) >> By performance you mean interactivity or throu

VM Report was:Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Nay
(VM report at Marcelo Tosatti's request. He has mentioned that rather than complaining about the VM that people mention what there experiences were. I have tried to do so in the way that he asked.) > 1) Describe what you're running. (your workload) A lot of daemons, all on a private network