On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, David S. Miller wrote:
>Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Gregory McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>[gregm@tweetie gregm]$ uname -a
>Linux tweetie.comstar.net 2.4.0-test7 #20 Sat Sep 2 16:17:06 EDT 2000 i686
>unknown
>[gregm@tweetie gr
Date:Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gregory McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[gregm@tweetie gregm]$ uname -a
Linux tweetie.comstar.net 2.4.0-test7 #20 Sat Sep 2 16:17:06 EDT 2000 i686
unknown
[gregm@tweetie gregm]$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
1
Works jus
does anyone has so far came out with a standard "form"/letter I can just
forward to offending site? It seems another "guilty" site is
www.borland.com, while I would like to let them know, I not too eager nor
have time right now to come up with a well written rational letter
explaining the problem
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Richard Torkar wrote:
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> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Bob_Tracy wrote:
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> > I *thought* I wanted to buy some memory from Crucial :-). Can't
> > get there from here with my 2.4.0-test7 machine, but Win95 seems
> > to be ok, and 2.
Just set the advertised MSS to 1476, all will be well.
-d
Elmer Joandi wrote:
> Mark Hahn wrote:
>
> > I'm curious to know what you mean.
>
> That is your websurfing session.
> But try on some 100+ size network to set some
> hops go trough a tunnel... the variety of behaviour
> and reasons for
Mark Hahn wrote:
> I'm curious to know what you mean.
That is your websurfing session.
But try on some 100+ size network to set some
hops go trough a tunnel... the variety of behaviour
and reasons for it are way larger there.
I mean a network that is not completely under your control.
neither a
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, David S. Miller wrote:
> If Alan or myself tell Cisco about this bug, they are very unlikely to
> move very fast. But if some of their largest site customers begin to
> moan, expect a more timely fix :-)
I have an contact at Cisco - I'll certainly raise this with him.
Cheer
I wrote:[...]
err, s/MTU/MSS/ where applicable ;)
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Elmer Joandi wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > > There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
> >
> > So mail lots of people. Cisco are I think now aware that their firewall
> > products dont handle ECN correctly but others might not be.
> >
> > Or wait until more vendors roll out
So make noise. I tried a post at /. but it wasn't accepted. We have power
in our [tiny] voices when used enmasse.
-d
Graham Murray wrote:
> David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
>
> What is the best way to handle sites whi
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:12:04PM +0200, Elmer Joandi wrote:
>
> > There is another big problem like that...
> > tunnels actually do not work on todays real internet...
> > MTU 1500 is so much a standard that it starts killing tunnels.
> > MTU < 15
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 12:07:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't think they're mostly linux based. You can easily do
> > that misconfiguration with most firewalls (i've often see it
> > with Checkpoint for example)
>
> One word: masquerading.
Unless they're using prehistoric kerne
> > Or wait until more vendors roll out ECN
>
> There is another big problem like that...
> tunnels actually do not work on todays real internet...
> MTU 1500 is so much a standard that it starts killing tunnels.
> MTU < 1500 is not a working solution today thanks to (mostly
> linux based ? ) bro
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:12:11 +0100 (BST)
From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
So mail lots of people. Cisco are I think now aware that their
firewall products dont handle ECN correctly but others might not
be.
T
Matti Aarnio wrote:
> From personal experience I can say that even cisco router training
> includes example of: "block ALL of ICMP", which of course makes
> TCP PMTU discovery non-functional.
Yeah, there is the general problem with such a stuff:
if something becomes d
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > There is another big problem like that...
> > tunnels actually do not work on todays real internet...
> > MTU 1500 is so much a standard that it starts killing tunnels.
> > MTU < 1500 is not a working solution today thanks to (mostly
> > linux based ? ) b
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:12:04PM +0200, Elmer Joandi wrote:
> There is another big problem like that...
> tunnels actually do not work on todays real internet...
> MTU 1500 is so much a standard that it starts killing tunnels.
> MTU < 1500 is not a working solution today thanks to (mostly
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:12:04PM +0200, Elmer Joandi wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > > There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
> >
> > So mail lots of people. Cisco are I think now aware that their firewall
> > products dont handle ECN correctly but others might not be.
>
Alan Cox wrote:
> > There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
>
> So mail lots of people. Cisco are I think now aware that their firewall
> products dont handle ECN correctly but others might not be.
>
> Or wait until more vendors roll out ECN
There is another big problem l
> There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
So mail lots of people. Cisco are I think now aware that their firewall
products dont handle ECN correctly but others might not be.
Or wait until more vendors roll out ECN
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David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this.
What is the best way to handle sites which block connections using
ECN? Is it best for everyone who detects this to write individually to
each site which they find can be accessed with "echo
"David S. Miller" wrote:
>Date:Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:35:59 +0200
>From: "Andi Kleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Try echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
>
> And if this makes it work send a very large and loud complaint
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] telling them to fix their firewalls not
>
Date:Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:35:59 +0200
From: "Andi Kleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Try echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
And if this makes it work send a very large and loud complaint
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] telling them to fix their firewalls not
to block IP traffic from hosts implemen
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 08:39:48AM -0500, Bob_Tracy wrote:
> I *thought* I wanted to buy some memory from Crucial :-). Can't
> get there from here with my 2.4.0-test7 machine, but Win95 seems
> to be ok, and 2.4.0-test5 worked ok from a different location
> yesterday. Has anyone else seen this k
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Bob_Tracy wrote:
> I *thought* I wanted to buy some memory from Crucial :-). Can't
> get there from here with my 2.4.0-test7 machine, but Win95 seems
> to be ok, and 2.4.0-test5 worked ok from a different location
> yesterday.
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