Re: spindown

2001-06-27 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 06:07:01PM +0200, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Isn't this why noflushd exists or is this an evil thing that shouldn't > > > ever be used and will eventually eat my disks for breakfast? > > > > It would eat your flash for breakfast. You know, flash memori

Re: spindown

2001-06-22 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 06:07:01PM +0200, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Isn't this why noflushd exists or is this an evil thing that shouldn't > > > ever be used and will eventually eat my disks for breakfast? > > > > It would eat your flash for breakfast. You know, flash memori

Re: spindown

2001-06-21 Thread Jamie Lokier
Pavel Machek wrote: > > Isn't this why noflushd exists or is this an evil thing that shouldn't > > ever be used and will eventually eat my disks for breakfast? > > It would eat your flash for breakfast. You know, flash memories have > no spinning parts, so there's nothing to spin down. Btw Pavel

Re: spindown

2001-06-20 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 19:32, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > BTW, with nominal 100,000 erases you have to write 10 terabytes > > to your 100 meg flash disk before you'll see it start to > > degrade. > > That assumes you write out full blocks. If you flush

Re: spindown

2001-06-20 Thread Rik van Riel
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > BTW, with nominal 100,000 erases you have to write 10 terabytes > to your 100 meg flash disk before you'll see it start to > degrade. That assumes you write out full blocks. If you flush after every byte written you'll hit the limit a lot sooner ;)

Re: spindown

2001-06-20 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 12:46, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > Roger> It does if you are running on a laptop. Then you do not want > > > > Roger> the pages go out all the time. Disk has gone too sleep, needs > > > > Roger> to start to write a few pages, stays idle for a while, goes to > > > > Roger> s

Re: spindown

2001-06-20 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > Roger> It does if you are running on a laptop. Then you do not want > > > Roger> the pages go out all the time. Disk has gone too sleep, needs > > > Roger> to start to write a few pages, stays idle for a while, goes to > > > Roger> sleep, a few more pages, ... > > > That could be handle

Re: spindown

2001-06-18 Thread Simon Huggins
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:23:07PM +, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Roger> It does if you are running on a laptop. Then you do not want > > Roger> the pages go out all the time. Disk has gone too sleep, needs > > Roger> to start to write a few pages, stays idle for a while, goes to > > Roger> sleep,

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2001 12:05, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > It _juuust_ so happens that I was tinkering... what do you think of > > something like the below? (and boy do I ever wonder what a certain > > box doing slrn stuff thinks of it.. hint hint;) > >

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-18 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Sunday 17 June 2001 12:05, Mike Galbraith wrote: > It _juuust_ so happens that I was tinkering... what do you think of > something like the below? (and boy do I ever wonder what a certain > box doing slrn stuff thinks of it.. hint hint;) It's too subtle for me ;-) (Not shy about sying that b

Re: (lkml)Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-17 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 12:05:10PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > It _juuust_ so happens that I was tinkering... what do you think of > > something like the below? (and boy do I ever wonder what a certain > > box doing slrn stuff thinks of it.

Re: (lkml)Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-17 Thread thunder7
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 12:05:10PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > It _juuust_ so happens that I was tinkering... what do you think of > something like the below? (and boy do I ever wonder what a certain > box doing slrn stuff thinks of it.. hint hint;) > I'm sorry to say this box doesn't real

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-17 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Saturday 16 June 2001 23:54, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > Does the patch below do anything good for your laptop? ;) > > > > I'll wait for the next one ;-) > > OK, here's one which isn't reversed and should work ;)) > > --- fs/buffer.c.orig Sat Jun 16

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-17 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Saturday 16 June 2001 23:06, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > As a side note, the good old multisecond delay before bdflush kicks in > > > doesn't really make a lot of sense - when bandwidth is available the

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-16 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > Does the patch below do anything good for your laptop? ;) > > I'll wait for the next one ;-) OK, here's one which isn't reversed and should work ;)) --- fs/buffer.c.origSat Jun 16 18:05:29 2001 +++ fs/buffer.c Sat Jun 16 18:05:15 2001 @@ -255

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-16 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Saturday 16 June 2001 23:06, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > As a side note, the good old multisecond delay before bdflush kicks in > > doesn't really make a lot of sense - when bandwidth is available the > > filesystem-initiated writeouts should happen rig

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-16 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: Oops, I did something stupid and the patch is reversed ;) > --- buffer.c.orig Sat Jun 16 18:05:15 2001 > +++ buffer.c Sat Jun 16 18:05:29 2001 > @@ -2550,8 +2550,7 @@ > if the current bh is not yet timed out, >

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-16 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote: > In other words, any episode of pageouts is followed immediately by a > short episode of preemptive cleaning. linux/mm/vmscan.c::page_launder(), around line 666: /* Let bdflush take care of the rest. */ wakeup_bdflush(0

Re: spindown [was Re: 2.4.6-pre2, pre3 VM Behavior]

2001-06-16 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Friday 15 June 2001 17:23, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > Roger> It does if you are running on a laptop. Then you do not want > > Roger> the pages go out all the time. Disk has gone too sleep, needs > > Roger> to start to write a few pages, stays idle for a while, goes to > > Roger> sleep, a f