Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Craig Ruff
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:35:56PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote: > So basically you are pointing out that there is now a sequencer reject in > linux? Because this used to effect and wipe drives, but you are showing > that Linux now does scsi commands check for execution on the /dev/sdxx? Nope, the

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Andre Hedrick
So basically you are pointing out that there is now a sequencer reject in linux? Because this used to effect and wipe drives, but you are showing that Linux now does scsi commands check for execution on the /dev/sdxx? On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Craig Ruff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:15:46PM -

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Andries . Brouwer
Andre Hedrick writes: > That is not the case Joanne is pointing out. > The SCSI low-level format glue performed by the HOST gets destroyed > If you write to LBA Zero. ATA only suffers the lose of the partition > table and that can be recovered, but SCSI needs that information to know > where eve

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Craig Ruff
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:15:46PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > Then run this and see if you live. Well, I ran it, the disk lives. The typescript is appended below. Interestingly, scsikiller didn't cream the partition table like I expected. However the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc certainly

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > Harvey, > > That is not the case Joanne is pointing out. > The SCSI low-level format glue performed by the HOST gets destroyed > If you write to LBA Zero. ATA only suffers the lose of the partition > table and that can be recovered, but SCSI needs t

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Andre Hedrick
Then run this and see if you live. On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Craig Ruff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:32:08PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > The SCSI low-level format glue performed by the HOST gets destroyed > > If you write to LBA Zero. > > This is simply not true. I write to SCSI disk's b

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Craig Ruff
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:32:08PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote: > The SCSI low-level format glue performed by the HOST gets destroyed > If you write to LBA Zero. This is simply not true. I write to SCSI disk's block 0 all of the time and never loose data. Obviously, you can lose the partition in

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Andre Hedrick
Harvey, That is not the case Joanne is pointing out. The SCSI low-level format glue performed by the HOST gets destroyed If you write to LBA Zero. ATA only suffers the lose of the partition table and that can be recovered, but SCSI needs that information to know where everything else is on the

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-07 Thread Harvey Fishman
Joanne, since a SCSI drive contains a processor (one of the small computer systems that are interfacing) it requires that the local personality data be stored in non-volatile storage someplace. Most drives used a dedicated area of the drive surface, which was SUPPOSED to be inaccessible to any out

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread J. Dow
From: "Jens Axboe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Hedrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Linus Torvalds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is a LIE, it does not destroy the drive, only the partition table. > > Please recally the limited effects of "DiskD

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
> So EOD from me. ditto... Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Development - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/l

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Jens Axboe
On Tue, Mar 06 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > But I might want to do this (write sector 0), why would we want > > to filter that? If someone a) uses an email client that will execute > > java script code (or whatever) and b) runs that as root (which > > he would have to do, surely no ordinary user

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > Jens we are not going therethe filter is the only way known to jam > > unknown commands, > > Erm... the hoax "virus" was about writing to the first sector of the disk, > overriding the partition table. If "write data" is an "unknown command"

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > But I might want to do this (write sector 0), why would we want > > to filter that? If someone a) uses an email client that will execute > > java script code (or whatever) and b) runs that as root (which > > he

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Jens Axboe wrote: > But I might want to do this (write sector 0), why would we want > to filter that? If someone a) uses an email client that will execute > java script code (or whatever) and b) runs that as root (which > he would have to do, surely no ordinary user has privil

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Mike Dresser wrote: > Sorry Andre, but this one's a hoax. > > http://service1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/Virtual.Card.for.you.html Well I am happy it is a hoax, because Alan pressed into my forhead that this old-war would come back to haunt me. Cheers, Andre Hedrick L

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Jens Axboe
On Tue, Mar 06 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > >This virus acts in the following manner: It sends > > >itself automatically to all contacts on your list > > >with the title "A Virtual Card for You". As >soon as > > >the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer > > >freezes so that the user has

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Mike Dresser
Sorry Andre, but this one's a hoax. http://service1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/Virtual.Card.for.you.html On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > >This virus acts in the following manner: It sends > > >itself automatically to all contacts on your list > > >with the title "A Virtual Car

Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
Alan, You were correct on your warning tome > >McAfee and no vaccine has yet been developed. This > >virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, > >where vital information for its functioning > >are stored. HAHAHA, Microsoft did not listen to me 10 months ago! I warned then that