Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-21 Thread Sytse Wielinga
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > http://clemens.endorphin.org/LinuxHDEncSettings I found two typos on your page: - In LinuxHDEncSettings: at the beginning, 'pose a thread', should be 'threat' - In 'cryptography': AFsplitter written as AFspliter. Syts

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-20 Thread markus reichelt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 22:26 +0100, markus reichelt wrote: > > > Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is FUD. To get serious in-depth information about the problems > > > associated with

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:03 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Venkat Manakkal wrote: > > > > As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The password > > > > hashing > > >

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-19 Thread Fruhwirth Clemens
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:24 -0500, James Morris wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > > > I've rewritten some CBC code to fit the facilities I introduce in my LRW > > patch[1]. Here are the results for my [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > loop-aes, CBC: ~30.5mb/s > > dm-crypt, CBC pr

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-19 Thread James Morris
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > I've rewritten some CBC code to fit the facilities I introduce in my LRW > patch[1]. Here are the results for my [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > loop-aes, CBC: ~30.5mb/s > dm-crypt, CBC prior to my rewrite: ~23mb/s > dm-crypt, CBC with my LRW patch: ~27mb/s

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-19 Thread Fruhwirth Clemens
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:03 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Dan Hollis wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Venkat Manakkal wrote: > > > As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The password hashing > > > system being changed in the past year, poor stability and machine

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Venkat Manakkal wrote: > > As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The password hashing > > system being changed in the past year, poor stability and machine lockups > > are > > what I have noticed, besides there is nothin

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Jan 18, 2005, at 19:18, Dan Hollis wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Venkat Manakkal wrote: As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The password hashing system being changed in the past year, poor stability and machine lockups are what I have noticed, besides there is nothing like the r

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Venkat Manakkal wrote: > As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The password hashing > system being changed in the past year, poor stability and machine lockups are > what I have noticed, besides there is nothing like the readme here: cryptoloop is also unusably

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Peter_22
http://clemens.endorphin.org/LinuxHDEncSettings Did you ever take a look at that page?! I did. I´d say the best are the photos. The rest isn ´t much of a help. Ever since I grabbed me SuSE Linux 8.2 and managed to compile some standard kernel according to the loop-aes.readme it´s proven

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Venkat Manakkal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andries et all, As a loop-aes *user* and ex-cryptoloop user, I can tell you one thing - it works, and is stable over multiple kernels, and backwards compatibility is maintained as it evolves. As for cryptoloop, I'm sorry, I cannot say the same. The p

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Andries Brouwer
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 05:35:48PM +0200, Jari Ruusu wrote: > Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > > Nothing about kernel crypto is backdoored. If Ruusu thinks different, he > > should show me source code. Till then, treat it as FUD. > > I have been submitting fix for this weakness to mainline mount (part o

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Jari Ruusu
jerome etienne wrote: > 3 years ago i published a paper describing how an attacker would be able > to modify the content of the encrypted device without being detected. > http://off.net/~jme/loopdev_vul.html > > i was just curious about the current state of loop-aes. Is it still > vulnerable to th

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread Jari Ruusu
Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > Nothing about kernel crypto is backdoored. If Ruusu thinks different, he > should show me source code. Till then, treat it as FUD. I have been submitting fix for this weakness to mainline mount (part of util-linux package) since 2001, about 2 or 3 times a year. Refusing

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-18 Thread jerome etienne
Hello, i dont understand the current argument so would prefere not to enter it. But it triggered my curiosity about current loop-aes security. 3 years ago i published a paper describing how an attacker would be able to modify the content of the encrypted device without being detected. http://off.

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel Harvey
Hi Fruhwirth, I don't want to take 'emotional' sides in this debate, but an observation: Re: "Enlightenment is a gift everyone has to fight for on it's own." If I can contrast, Jari's code gets some good use/discussion because if a question is raised, it gets answered *in detail* the same day (al

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Fruhwirth Clemens
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 22:26 +0100, markus reichelt wrote: > Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is FUD. To get serious in-depth information about the problems > > associated with dm-crypt and loop-aes read, > > > > http://clemens.endorphin.org/LinuxHDEncSettings > > excuse me,

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 05:08:04PM +0200, Jari Ruusu wrote: > Unlikely to go to mainline kernel. Mainline folks are just too much in > love with their backdoored device crypto implementations [1]. If you want "Backdoored" is a bit strong, I think; that tends to imply deliberate placing of a gatew

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:04:49PM +0100, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > You will find the same information on my site. Therefore, I do NOT decline > this vulnerability. I decline it's security implications. It's on the same I'm making no comment either way, I simply wanted to make sure everyone on t

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread markus reichelt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fruhwirth Clemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is FUD. To get serious in-depth information about the problems > associated with dm-crypt and loop-aes read, > > http://clemens.endorphin.org/LinuxHDEncSettings excuse me, but that's just too academ

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Fruhwirth Clemens
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 19:29 +, Paul Walker wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > > > > Unlikely to go to mainline kernel. Mainline folks are just too much in > > > love > > > with their backdoored device crypto implementations [1]. > > Just to add bac

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:11:18 +, Jari Ruusu wrote: > Mainline folks are just too much in love with their backdoored device > crypto implementations [1]. If you want strong device crypto in mainline > kernel, maybe you should take a look at FreeBSD gbde. what about dm-crypt? I lost track, whethe

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Walker
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:14:58PM +0100, Fruhwirth Clemens wrote: > > Unlikely to go to mainline kernel. Mainline folks are just too much in love > > with their backdoored device crypto implementations [1]. Just to add back in Jari's link, so the folks added know what you're talking about: > [

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Fruhwirth Clemens
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 17:08 +0200, Jari Ruusu wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Is this eventually going in the mainline kernel? I'd like to use it, but > > if I'm going to have to maintain my own crypto kernels indefinitely this > > probably isn't the one for me. > > Unlikely to go to mainline ke

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-17 Thread Jari Ruusu
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Is this eventually going in the mainline kernel? I'd like to use it, but > if I'm going to have to maintain my own crypto kernels indefinitely this > probably isn't the one for me. Unlikely to go to mainline kernel. Mainline folks are just too much in love with their backdoo

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-16 Thread Willy Tarreau
Hi Bill, On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:26:38PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Is this eventually going in the mainline kernel? I'd like to use it, but > if I'm going to have to maintain my own crypto kernels indefinitely this > probably isn't the one for me. On a side note, I would say that this

Re: Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jari Ruusu wrote: loop-AES changes since previous release: - Fixed externally compiled module version multi-key-v3 ioctl incompatibility with boxes running 64 bit kernel and 32 bit userland. Kernel patch versions were not affected (2.4 and 2.6 kernels). - Fixed bug that made v3 on-disk format a

Announce loop-AES-v3.0b file/swap crypto package

2005-01-16 Thread Jari Ruusu
loop-AES changes since previous release: - Fixed externally compiled module version multi-key-v3 ioctl incompatibility with boxes running 64 bit kernel and 32 bit userland. Kernel patch versions were not affected (2.4 and 2.6 kernels). - Fixed bug that made v3 on-disk format always use file bac