Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-08 Thread Oleg Verych
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:22:01PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > > > And there's no working alternative to build/config > > system. Thus, let me have my try OK? Thanks! > > I would prefer if you used your time to do small incrmental improvements > to what we have today rather then rewriting from

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-08 Thread Sam Ravnborg
> > And there's no working alternative to build/config > system. Thus, let me have my try OK? Thanks! I would prefer if you used your time to do small incrmental improvements to what we have today rather then rewriting from scratch. But it's your decision and not mine. Sam - To unsubscr

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 11:10:48PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 10:47:21PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:59:20PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > > > > Maintenance and acceptance of the m4/make/perl/C/ncur

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 11:10:48PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 10:47:21PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:59:20PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > > > Maintenance and acceptance of the m4/make/perl/C/ncurses community of my > > > > mainly `TERM=linux

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 10:47:21PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:59:20PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > > Maintenance and acceptance of the m4/make/perl/C/ncurses community of my > > > mainly `TERM=linux ; sed && sh' approach is more important for me. > > > > There is noon

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 08:59:20PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > Maintenance and acceptance of the m4/make/perl/C/ncurses community of my > > mainly `TERM=linux ; sed && sh' approach is more important for me. > > There is noone having trouble with ncurses dependency today. Who wants to meet a zo

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Sam Ravnborg
> Maintenance and acceptance of the m4/make/perl/C/ncurses community of my > mainly `TERM=linux ; sed && sh' approach is more important for me. There is noone having trouble with ncurses dependency today. And perl is not yet mandatory for a kernel build expect for a few architectures. m4 is not us

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 09:03:00AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > > Thanks. I will be specific, after i will finish, what i already have, > > to make air a bit less hot. Of course everything will be back > > compatible, so nothing to worry about (

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > Thanks. I will be specific, after i will finish, what i already have, > to make air a bit less hot. Of course everything will be back > compatible, so nothing to worry about (the rewrite). Qutie frankly, this kind of "I'll tell you more when I'm done"

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-06 Thread Oleg Verych
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 04:35:41AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > Today's kconfig was proposed and accepted in a very unpleasant > > circumstances, has very poor design, development and no working > > alternative (for 5+ years now). > > If you w

Re: [kbuild-devel] A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-04 Thread Roman Zippel
Hi, On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > Today's kconfig was proposed and accepted in a very unpleasant > circumstances, has very poor design, development and no working > alternative (for 5+ years now). If you want to make such statements, you have to offer a little more than the hot air y

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-01 Thread Elyse M. Grasso
On Monday 01 October 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > * Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:12:51 -0600 > > > On Thursday 27 September 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: > >> On Saturday 29 September 2007 00:34, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: > >> > > > God I hate select. > >> > > > >> > > I

Re: A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-01 Thread Sam Ravnborg
Hi Oleg. > > Today's kconfig was proposed and accepted in a very unpleasant > circumstances, has very poor design, development and no working > alternative (for 5+ years now). I have read all your mails about this subject - but I still miss what is so bad about current design. Could you try to s

A bit of kconfig rewrite (Re: [PATCH] 9p: fix compile error if !CONFIG_SYSCTL)

2007-10-01 Thread Oleg Verych
* Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:12:51 -0600 > On Thursday 27 September 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: >> On Saturday 29 September 2007 00:34, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: >> > > > God I hate select. >> > > >> > > IMO a better implementation would result in a notification / >