Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Rafael E. Herrera
> Not good enough in isolation. Suppose the kernel freezes at a very early > stage, such as while detecting the CPU(s) or PCI bridge - are your geeky > reaction times fast enough to dismiss the logo in time to see the relevant > messages? I agree with others that this should be a boot option - a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Peter Kundrat
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 11:47:18PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Right. Add the option. Default to "spew mode", > > but make it easy for distributions to show people > > a non-threatening boot process. > > Wrong. > > > > Since, as Christophe mentions, the boot messages would > > still be ac

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
>I've seen in recently purchased computers that the very initial >messages, like memory test, are masked by some kind of picture or logo >(example are the HP kayaks). They display a message saying that pressing >ESC or some function key displays the messages. Why not having the same >in this prett

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Rafael E. Herrera
I've seen in recently purchased computers that the very initial messages, like memory test, are masked by some kind of picture or logo (example are the HP kayaks). They display a message saying that pressing ESC or some function key displays the messages. Why not having the same in this pretty boo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Miles Lane
Martin Laberge wrote: > Juergen Schneider wrote: > > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I've created a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that adds some fancy options for >> the framebuffer console driver concerning the boot logo. >> I've added logo animation and logo centering. >> People may find this not very us

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Miles Lane
Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > >> Right. Add the option. Default to "spew mode", >> but make it easy for distributions to show people >> a non-threatening boot process. > > Wrong. We're talking about an _option_. In fact, it could be set up as a boot time parameter. Then, if a boot proc

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Martin Laberge
Juergen Schneider wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I've created a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that adds some fancy options for > the framebuffer console driver concerning the boot logo. > I've added logo animation and logo centering. > People may find this not very useful but nice to look at. :-) > > It

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Adrian Cox
Mike Galbraith wrote: > I give users more credit in the curiosity/observation department. In > my experience, when a user fires up his/her box, independent of OS, > they watch it pretty closely. This behavior begins roughly the first > time they lose a chunk of work ;-) I want to use this for e

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-12 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > Right. Add the option. Default to "spew mode", > but make it easy for distributions to show people > a non-threatening boot process. Wrong. > > Since, as Christophe mentions, the boot messages would > still be accessible via CTRL-ALT-F2, I don't see what > the problem is with at leas

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-11 Thread Werner Almesberger
Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: >> wondering when linux boot gets so long that mpeg2 player gets >> integrated into kernel. > > ;o) > > I doubt strongly that that is technically possible. In fact I'm > sure it is not. Why not ? Just preload the movie with the ker

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Nick Papadonis
Maybe if you hold down a key at bootup, you can change to verbose output? Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Lane wrote: > > Since, as Christophe mentions, the boot messages would > > still be accessible via CTRL-ALT-F2, I don't see what > > the problem is with at least maki

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Mike Porter
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Miles Lane wrote: > Helge Hafting wrote: > > christophe barbe wrote: > >> Moreover there is no need to be ignorant. With LPP, messages are displayed during >the boot process and if something goes wrong an little picture inform you. And you >can switch to the classic console w

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Werner Almesberger
Miles Lane wrote: > I suppose perhaps an even more useful tweak to the this > idea would be that if the user holds down a special key > during the start of boot, the whole prettyfication stuff > isn't used and the VT number 1 gets all the boot messages. Hmm, this adds a lot of steps between the f

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Miles Lane
Werner Almesberger wrote: > Miles Lane wrote: > >> Since, as Christophe mentions, the boot messages would >> still be accessible via CTRL-ALT-F2, I don't see what >> the problem is with at least making this an option. > > > Except if some initialization hangs your machine so badly that it eve

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Werner Almesberger
Miles Lane wrote: > Since, as Christophe mentions, the boot messages would > still be accessible via CTRL-ALT-F2, I don't see what > the problem is with at least making this an option. Except if some initialization hangs your machine so badly that it even won't respond to Ctrl-Alt-F2. This coul

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Miles Lane
Helge Hafting wrote: > christophe barbe wrote: > > >> Moreover there is no need to be ignorant. With LPP, messages are displayed during >the boot process and if something goes wrong an little picture inform you. And you >can switch to the classic console when you want (by a simple CTRL-ALT-F2

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, christophe barbe wrote: > On ven, 09 fév 2001 08:03:14 Mike Galbraith wrote: > > I hope that nothing like this is _ever_ integrated (and doubt I need > > be concerned;). IMHO, hiding output from users arrogantly assumes > > that they are too stupid/ignorant to have any use fo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread David Lang
Lang On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Helge Hafting wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:21:52 +0100 > From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1 > > > christophe barbe wrote: > > > Moreover

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread Helge Hafting
christophe barbe wrote: > Moreover there is no need to be ignorant. With LPP, messages are displayed during >the boot process and if something goes wrong an little picture inform you. And you >can switch to the classic console when you want (by a simple CTRL-ALT-F2). Interesting. Stuff that

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-09 Thread christophe barbe
On ven, 09 fév 2001 08:03:14 Mike Galbraith wrote: > I hope that nothing like this is _ever_ integrated (and doubt I need > be concerned;). IMHO, hiding output from users arrogantly assumes > that they are too stupid/ignorant to have any use for such information. Most user don't want to learn th

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, christophe barbe wrote: > Ok it seems not important to have a nice boot process but each time you show a linux >machine to a M$ normal user (normal = not a programmer) his first reaction is >something like ""what are all these strange output lines?". And it's the first thing

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Miles Lane
christophe barbe wrote: > Ok it seems not important to have a nice boot process but each time you show a linux >machine to a M$ normal user (normal = not a programmer) his first reaction is >something like ""what are all these strange output lines?". And it's the first thing >that keep Windows

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread christophe barbe
Ok it seems not important to have a nice boot process but each time you show a linux machine to a M$ normal user (normal = not a programmer) his first reaction is something like ""what are all these strange output lines?". And it's the first thing that keep Windows user in the dark side. Windo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: >> I've created a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that adds some fancy options for >> the framebuffer console driver concerning the boot logo. >> I've added logo animation and logo centering. >> People may find this not very useful but nice to look at. :-) > >Long t

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Pavel Machek
hi! > I've created a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that adds some fancy options for > the framebuffer console driver concerning the boot logo. > I've added logo animation and logo centering. > People may find this not very useful but nice to look at. :-) Long time ago I joked that win2000 will have 30-

[ANNOUNCE] Animated framebuffer logo for 2.4.1

2001-02-01 Thread Juergen Schneider
Hello everybody, I've created a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that adds some fancy options for the framebuffer console driver concerning the boot logo. I've added logo animation and logo centering. People may find this not very useful but nice to look at. :-) It can be downloaded from: