Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Aviram Jenik
I have a machine that I want to replace the kernel on. It's an old Redhat 7.3 and it works; but it's too old to use an rpm. Upgrading to a newer version (or different distribution) is not an option. I intend to compile a new kernel (a 2.6.x) and put it on there. What should I be taking into acc

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
There are newer 2.4 kernels. Why do you need to use 2.6? On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Aviram Jenik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a machine that I want to replace the kernel on. It's an old Redhat 7.3 > and it works; but it's too old to use an rpm. Upgrading to a newer version > (or diff

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:53:25PM +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote: > I have a machine that I want to replace the kernel on. It's an old > Redhat 7.3 and it works; but it's too old to use an rpm. Upgrading > to a newer version (or different distribution) is not an option. > > I intend to compile a new

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Oren Held
See the kernel-source/Documentation/Changes file; it has a list of requirements. On Wednesday 02 April 2008 21:53, Aviram Jenik wrote: > I have a machine that I want to replace the kernel on. It's an old Redhat > 7.3 and it works; but it's too old to use an rpm. Upgrading to a newer > version (or

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Aviram Jenik
Even the latest 2.4 kernel doesn't seem to support our SATA hard drive. - Aviram On Wednesday 02 April 2008 22:08:49 Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > There are newer 2.4 kernels. Why do you need to use 2.6? > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Aviram Jenik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a mac

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
I once did such a thing, and IIRC the main problem was with modutils, which was replaced by module-init-tools. I'd try installing 7.3 on a test machine, then use a kernel with all needed drivers compiled in - I think it will work. If that's not good enough, I'd then compile module-init-tools and tr

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday, 2 בApril 2008, Aviram Jenik wrote: > I intend to compile a new kernel (a 2.6.x) and put it on there. > What should I be taking into account? Will all the applications work? The first thing is to replace the old modutils with the newer ones: - The 2.4 modutils *cannot* be used with 2

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:53:25PM +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote: I have a machine that I want to replace the kernel on. It's an old Redhat 7.3 and it works; but it's too old to use an rpm. Upgrading to a newer version (or different distribution) is not an option. I inte

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:27:33PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > What I would suggest is to compile (on another machine) a > non-modular kernel with everything you need, and install that. No > initrd, no modules, nothing. I do believe it is the only sane way > that this endeavor has any chance o

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: This approach has a non-negligible chance of FAIL. Consider the list of necessary utilities: You may well be right, but to me that means just one thing - what Aviram is trying to do is impossible in a sane way. As a side note, I don't know why the "user space interfa

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:53:36PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > As a side note, I don't know why the "user space interface" does not > include those programs (well, I can understand about ext2 tools, > assuming ext changed format since 2.4, which I don't know whether it > has). We don't break

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a side note, I don't know why the "user space interface" does not > include those programs (well, I can understand about ext2 tools, > assuming ext changed format since 2.4, which I don't know whether it > has). I find it extermely unlikely that pro

Re: Replacing kernel 2.4 -> 2.6

2008-04-02 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:13:19PM -0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > On the device front, the 2.6 kernel has much more knowledge of the > device internals (a necessity driven, in particular, for > laptops). Hotplugging is the norm rather than an exception - the > kernel no longer differentiates betwe