Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg
> a) You didn't get the smiley or the clue: it's "can't he see more >in me than a Barbie doll" (or equivalent) turned inside out. You see Orna as Barbie doll inside out ??? Man, your sick :-))) Oleg. = To unsubscribe, send

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:28:30AM +0200, Oleg wrote: > > a) You didn't get the smiley or the clue: it's "can't he see more > >in me than a Barbie doll" (or equivalent) turned inside out. > > You see Orna as Barbie doll inside out ??? > > Man, your sick :-))) This thread has gone past a

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread frodo
OG>> Hmm... Not just lightbulbs... OG>> OG>> http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/How-Blondes-print-with-WinWord.html Note that this is perfectly Unix way of doing things - using standard input and output to couple things together ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Sta

Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, When I was a kid, I used a word processor called Qtext on my dos machine. It was a freeware written by an Israeli guy, and had a better (by far) bidi support than any alternative I knew. Yesterday, I discovered that I work with the guy who wrote it in the same room. He told me that Qtext stil

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:19, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > My question is, is there someone who might want to fund it? Get us a number and we'll see how reasonable it is. Maybe we can have a 'Free Qtext!' funraiser or something... :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://benyossef

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Moshe, The source code was probably not written in a way that can be ported - e.g. the display aspect is probably not isolated by a portability layer but probably uses direct calles to MFC, OWL or some other proprietary widget library that does not lend itself to portability. This would make

RE: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Dvir Volk
do you think trhat porting QText to Linux is really feasible and worth the effort? i agree that the bidi support there was excellent, and i used to work with qtext for years, but qt's bidi support has become pretty mature, and i'm not sure if it's worth the effort of porting MFC or whatever win

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, At least up till some stage, this was a dos thing, so probably at least *that* can be ported. Even the latest version is a 16-bit application (though it does run on the newer windows versions) - I don't know exactly what this means, but I guess this might mean that the windows specific compon

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
* Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020924 11:40]: > On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:19, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > > > My question is, is there someone who might want to fund it? > > Get us a number and we'll see how reasonable it is. Maybe we can have a > 'Free Qtext!' funraiser or something... :-

Encoding problem in Konqueror

2002-09-24 Thread Boris Gorelik
Well, this is a STRANGE problem: I use Konqueror 3.0.3-0.7 to surf the net. While everything goes well, there are some pages (like http://www.md.huji.ac.il/, http://pref.etfos.hr/garlic/competition/index.html) that I see in Greek letters. The vast majority of the pages are fine. Changing the en

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, About feasible, I don't really know, since I didn't see the code. I will ask (maybe someone else in the development team there _is_ familiar with linux). As for worth the effort, I find hebrew support in the existing processors quite unsatisfactory. In fact, last time I checked (KDE 3.0.2 an

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > * Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020924 11:40]: > > On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:19, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > > > > > My question is, is there someone who might want to fund it? > > > > Get us a number and we'll see how reasonable it is. Maybe we

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you like, and if you think this is ok, I think I can reresent both the body who may eventually shell out the money, and understand how much it is WORTH for the community. Before we start, however, is there anyone here who will vulenteer to do

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > If you like, and if you think this is ok, I think I can reresent both > the body who may eventually shell out the money, and understand how much > it is WORTH for the community. > > Before we st

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:59:15AM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > * Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020924 11:40]: > > On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:19, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > > > > > My question is, is there someone who might want to fund it? > > > > Get us a number and we'll see how reason

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, Of course, this is an important question. I just thought that the first question is whether we have any chance of getting the source. Since you say that someone might possibly fund it, I'll try to dig some more details from the guy when I meet him (on Thursday), both about the price and the f

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:50:07PM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > I guess a relevant bit of information here is that this program is > written in Delphi, which is some variant of Pascal. In this case I guess porting is quite a big project. Unless you use Borland's lovely Kylix (Delphi's spin in

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Uri Bruck
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > Hi, > > Of course, this is an important question. I just thought that the first > question is whether we have any chance of getting the source. Since you > say that someone might possibly fund it, I'll try to dig some more > details from the guy when

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg
OK, if you say that this thing is Delphi like I suspected, then I'll do the porting to Kylix. Bring it on :) Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Moshe Kaminsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Gilad Ben-Yossef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Se

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg
Kylix Open Edition is free. Check Borland site. Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Qtext > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:50:07PM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > > I guess a

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg
> Does the Windows version have its own Hebrew support or does it use > Windows Hebrew support? Delphi starting from 5 has it's own bidi algorithms. It does rely on Windows hebrew but with a little tweaking it can do without. Oleg. ==

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread David Tabachnikov
Moshe Kaminsky wrote: >Hi, > >At least up till some stage, this was a dos thing, so probably at least >*that* can be ported. Even the latest version is a 16-bit application >(though it does run on the newer windows versions) - I don't know >exactly what this means, but I guess this might mean tha

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: >About portability: The demo (you can (could?) download from www.qtext.com) >works quite well with recent versions of wine. This might (or might not, >I am not an expert) mean porting to libwine might be much easier, even >though less portable (e.g. to other Unices), t

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 14:08, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > As for it working with Wine - does the BiDi also work? If so, it more or > less automatically means that there is no reliance on Windows BiDi. Qtext does not rely on Widnosw idi support - Qtext works in Hebrew even on non Bidi versions of Win

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Oleg wrote: > > Does the Windows version have its own Hebrew support or does it use > > Windows Hebrew support? > > Delphi starting from 5 has it's own bidi algorithms. It does rely on Windows > hebrew but with a little tweaking it can do without. QText uses its own bidi imp

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread dorit
Guy My thoughts exactly. Thank you very much ! Dorit = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > About portability: The demo (you can (could?) download from www.qtext.com) > works quite well with recent versions of wine. Not here. qtext has problems with fonts. I kept getting error messages about problems accessing (or "opening", I'm not su

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]

2002-09-24 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 9/23/2002 12:12 AM, Tal Achituv wrote: > Tal Achituv: 2 monitors, 1x4 cpu-switch, ~10 net-cables, 1x6 > electricity splitter, tables & chairs. > Roy Arad: ADSL modem+account (will be handy if there will be a line). > Marc: Debian Mirror, 8 port hub, 4 port switch > Yotam Rubin: 3 monitors CD-

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]

2002-09-24 Thread Amir Tal
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 15:55, Sagi Bashari wrote: > On 9/23/2002 12:12 AM, Tal Achituv wrote: > > Tal Achituv: 2 monitors, 1x4 cpu-switch, ~10 net-cables, 1x6 > > electricity splitter, tables & chairs. > > Roy Arad: ADSL modem+account (will be handy if there will be a line). > > Marc: Debian

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Amir Tal
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 14:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Guy > > My thoughts exactly. > > Thank you very much ! > > Dorit when replying to the entire list, it can help if you say what you are talking about ! tal. To unsubs

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Moshe Kaminsky
Hi, I just spoke with the guy on the phone (by the way, his name is Itzhak Mintz, by the way). He was interested in the whole thing, and asked me to resend to him your responses. So unless someone has any objections, I'm going to resend him the whole thread. Moshe Moshe Kaminsky <[EMAIL PRO

RFC: Why BitKeeper should be Open-Sourced Now

2002-09-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
Refer to: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/gpling_bk.html For an article I wrote on the subject. All comments are welcome, including "I agree" and "you could add this". Regards, Shlomi Fish Note to Orna: I think discussions of BitKeeper which is used to maintain the Linux Kernel sou

phat linux

2002-09-24 Thread Amir Tal
a thought regarding tommorow's event : i was thinking that maybe we should also try an additional installation method for new users. i am guessing that there will be people that will be afraid of data losses etc, and after reading an artice about phat-linux, i thought that maybe this can be o

RE: phat linux

2002-09-24 Thread David Howard
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 17:24, Amir Tal wrote: > a thought regarding tommorow's event : > > i was thinking that maybe we should also try an additional installation > method for new users. > i am guessing that there will be people that will be afraid of data losses It's now very late for this dis

the insta party on nana

2002-09-24 Thread Amir Tal
dont know if you saw it yet, but its nice to see that we've got some publicity ;) http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=40738 -- == Amir Tal Founder, Owner Whatsup, Hebrew Linux Portal Voice:+972-8-9363164 Fax: +9

Re: the insta party on nana

2002-09-24 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
And this? http://news.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscript=item&path=4&id=285491 Boy, it's going to be big. I wish I could come... Hetz On Tuesday 24 September 2002 19:09, Amir Tal wrote: > dont know if you saw it yet, but its nice to see that we've got some > publicity ;) > > http://net.nana.co.il/Art

Re: CDRW error

2002-09-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí øàùåï 22 ñôèîáø 2002, 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ëúá: > Vendor_info: 'RICOH ' > Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW MP7083A ' yada yada yada you must be kidding me... [root@localhost internet]# dmesg |grep RICOH hdd: RICOH CD-R/RW MP7083A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive Vendor: RICOH Model: CD-R/RW

Re: CDRW error

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Diego Iastrubni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [root@localhost internet]# dmesg |grep RICOH > hdd: RICOH CD-R/RW MP7083A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive > Vendor: RICOH Model: CD-R/RW MP7083A Rev: 1.20 I also have a RICOH CDRW, but a different model, MP7120A, about 18 months old. Works OK, never

Re: phat linux

2002-09-24 Thread David Howard
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 19:36, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] > As for DemoLinux and other CD-based distros: anybody tried to actually > work with one? How easy it is to create a decent writable home directory? Don't know about DemoLinux. Have just now been playing with Knoppix 3.1b. It opens a KDE 3

Re: RFC: Why BitKeeper should be Open-Sourced Now

2002-09-24 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 05:11:44PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/gpling_bk.html > > Note to Orna: I think discussions of BitKeeper which is used to maintain > the Linux Kernel source and runs on Linux are obviously on-topic here. > Sorry. Delete this thread if you

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:08:08PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > >About portability: The demo (you can (could?) download from www.qtext.com) > >works quite well with recent versions of wine. This might (or might not, > >I am not an expert) mean porting to lib

Re: CDRW error

2002-09-24 Thread solomon
On 24-Sep-2002 Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí øàùåï 22 ñôèîáø 2002, 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ëúá: >> Vendor_info: 'RICOH ' >> Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW MP7083A ' > yada yada yada > > you must be kidding me... > > [root@localhost internet]# dmesg |grep RICOH > hdd: RICOH CD-R/RW MP7083A, ATA

Re: the insta party on nana

2002-09-24 Thread Adir Abraham
Ahem Who IS responsible on the article in Walla? it says there that "the event, which occurs every year in the Technion (which is not correct, because it usually happens every semester), will be THIS TIME in the Renanim mall in Kfar Saba". What the heck? The Renanim installation party has nothing

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
Guess this disscussion was bound to pop up some time. I'll try to explain my POV : Linuxchix want to talk linux, and not be a target. The way I felt when I was a newbie, with a non-computer-related job, haifux was the only place for me to hear people talk about computers. I didn't mind too much a

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:40:01PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > > > > About portability: The demo (you can (could?) download from www.qtext.com) > > works quite well with recent versions of wine. > > Not here. qtext has problems with fonts. I k

Re: the insta party on nana

2002-09-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 22:25, Adir Abraham wrote: > Ahem > > Who IS responsible on the article in Walla? it says there that "the event, > which occurs every year in the Technion (which is not correct, because it > usually happens every semester), will be THIS TIME in the Renanim mall > in Kfar Sab

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Viki Navratilova
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: > and the capitalization was just there to correct the 'girlfriend' part (well > maybe also to react on the reactions I ofter net - "what, you use linux? you > must be gay!") HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! hahahaha!!! tee hee hee hee! hohohoho!! hehehehehe!! HAHAHAHAH

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Yotam Rubin
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:42:03PM -0500, Viki Navratilova wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: > [...] > > Now I'm gonna leave that thread be (: > > So I can pick it back up! :) (in america our smileys read left to right) This thread has been extended beyond its natural life sp

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 23:42, Viki Navratilova wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: > HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! hahahaha!!! tee hee hee hee! hohohoho!! hehehehehe!! for air> HAHAHAHAHA!! heheheheehehehe. okok, I think I can type again. > -- Viki > (who organized monthly linux-il dinners in 1

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 23:51, Yotam Rubin wrote: > > This thread has been extended beyond its natural life span. It does not > contribute anything and promotes certain types of trolling. It would be > greatly appreciated if this thread is eliminated without delay, implied > or otherwise. ObRoboCo

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Viki Navratilova
On 25 Sep 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Viiikkk! :-) > > Donno if you remember me, but one of these dinners was at my place (the > one where Marc and Ira cooked). Long time no see. Gillaad! *hugs* Of course I remember you! I think your dinner was

Re: Encoding problem in Konqueror

2002-09-24 Thread Arie Folger
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 05:07, Boris Gorelik wrote: > Well, this is a STRANGE problem: > I use Konqueror 3.0.3-0.7 to surf the net. While everything goes well, > there are some pages (like http://www.md.huji.ac.il/, > http://pref.etfos.hr/garlic/competition/index.html) that I see in Greek > l

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Viki Navratilova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Viki! I had half a mind to ask if anyone has heard from you when the number of ladies on linux-il was discussed, but I didn't. So you are following the developments... Oleg, who met you at the first (I think) linux-il dinner you organized and wh

Re: Qtext

2002-09-24 Thread Oded Arbel
Uri Bruck wrote: >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > > > >>I guess a relevant bit of information here is that this program is >>written in Delphi, which is some variant of Pascal. >> >> > >As far as I can recall, Delphi was very similar in concept to visual C++ >except that it wa

Help with a Bourne Shell Script

2002-09-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
Check: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/fetchweb My problem is that proc_args does not return the new command line. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technio