Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-12 Thread Eran Tromer
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Have anyone noticed, in their hot pursuit of ADSL, how Bezeq in an > obvious ingenious fashion, > chose to make the entire 10.0.0.0/8 A class unusable for mere mortals? There is no need to surrender the whole 10.x.x.x network to the ADSL modem. I have just verified that

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-12 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Schlomo! On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 02:52:43PM +0200, you wrote the following: > Well, but the lo network (127.0.0.1) is usually defined with a netmask of > 127.255.255.255 which would break your suggestion. You probably meant netmask 255.0.0.0. But you misread his suggestion. 172.16.0.0/12 is

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-12 Thread Schlomo Schapiro
: "Gilad Ben-Yossef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: Stupid Bezeq > > > > Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for private > > networks, even

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-12 Thread Joseph Teichman
- Original Message - From: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gilad Ben-Yossef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Stupid Bezeq > Well, now you know why it is better to pick

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-12 Thread Dani Arbel
Shlomo, It is a routing problem. If you have a few network interfaces on the router (either eth , ppp, vpn or whatever), and one has the 10.0.0.0/8 assigned to it, none of the other can use ip numbers in that range, or route to other 10 net numbers. Dani On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrot

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-11 Thread Schlomo Schapiro
Actually I didn't really get where the problem is. After all the private network ends at the NAT gateway and about anything outside you just don't care. If you connect to places that run a private net via some tunnel over the public IP net, then again you don't care wether part of this public IP

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-11 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
SS>> Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for SS>> private networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) Guess which address space will the second provider take? Bingo! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-11 Thread Schlomo Schapiro
Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for private networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) Schlomo On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > > Have anyone noticed, in their hot pursuit of ADSL, how Bezeq in an > obvious ingenious fashion, > chose to make

Re: Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-10 Thread Dani Arbel
Gilad, I have pointed that in the HOWTO. Anyway, I believe you can log in to the ADSL , change the netmask to class C , move the host to 10.0.0.x and use the rest of the 10 net to whatever you find useful. Dani On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > > Have anyone noticed, in their

Stupid Bezeq

2001-02-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Have anyone noticed, in their hot pursuit of ADSL, how Bezeq in an obvious ingenious fashion, chose to make the entire 10.0.0.0/8 A class unusable for mere mortals? You see if you're running a private LAN, and there is any chance in the world someone would want to connect to it from the outs