Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-07 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: > >>I want to backup a file constantly as it change. > >> > >>Is it possible at all ? > > > >please define what "backup a file constantly" means for you. > > Yep, having an exact _current_ copy all the time on two storage system. > Its the WAL ( Write ah

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
guy keren wrote: On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: Hi Everyone I want to backup a file constantly as it change. Is it possible at all ? please define what "backup a file constantly" means for you. Yep, having an exact _current_ copy all the time on two storage system

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 12:25:42AM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > ext3 can do "journal=data" (what you would expect) and > "journal=ordered" (almost as safe as journal=data and almost as fast > as journal=metadata. I don't understand the voodoo involved.) nitpicking: A quick look at mount(8) sh

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-05 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 06:30:29PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:15 +0300, Omer Zak wrote: > > > They solve it by journalling the changes which were made to the file > > since the last backup. So if you lose the original file, you can > > recover it by retrieving the ba

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-05 Thread Marc A. Volovic
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:15 +0300, Omer Zak wrote: > They solve it by journalling the changes which were made to the file > since the last backup. So if you lose the original file, you can > recover it by retrieving the backup and re-applying to it the changes > listed in the journal file. Au co

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: > Hi Everyone > > > I want to backup a file constantly as it change. > > Is it possible at all ? please define what "backup a file constantly" means for you. does it mean: having an exact _current_ copy all the time on two storage systems (i.e. safety

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:30 +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 18:15 +0300, Omer Zak wrote: > > > They solve it by journalling the changes which were made to the file > > since the last backup. So if you lose the original file, you can > > recover it by retrieving the backup an

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:25 +0300, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: > I want to backup a file constantly as it change. > > Is it possible at all ? Your problem is somewhat similiar to that of filesystems (ext3, ReiserFS) and databases. They solve it by journalling the changes which were made to the file

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 8/4/05, Michael Ben-Nes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > > I want to backup a file constantly as it change. > > Is it possible at all ? (re-posting to list) I think DRBD (http://www.drbd.org/) should able to do that at the block device level. I searched for such solution myself a

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread Danny Lieberman
Michael tricky - depends on the application - if the file isnt too large - you might want to try LVM snapshots - they're pretty fast and afaik preserve data integrity during the snapshot phase if you're using MySQL innodb - there is ibbackup - not free but works well danny Michael Ben-Nes wro

Re: live backup / mirroring

2005-08-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Michael Ben-Nes: > Hi Everyone > I want to backup a file constantly as it change. > Is it possible at all ? Well - yes and no. What you want is a snapshot capable filesystem. There are a number of possible solutions to this - from a fully commercial one (i.e. NetApps) through a fully manua