Re: hebrew editor

2001-12-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi [No need to mail me privately. But you can mail the author privately] On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > Hi all, > I installed hebrew editor which is like lyx for the console. I assume that you mean he2: http://he2.sf.net he2 is mainly intended for editing hebrew latex files, and it

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 > comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. > > The main missing piece is to add support into the graphics tool-kit (i.e. > gtk, qt). This won't help for a word processor.

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Moshe Zadka wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > > > > > A better option I think is to add hebrew > > > support, build-in, into GTK+. > > > > That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole > > right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 06:17 -0800 on 13/03/2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: >I was talking about full hebrew support, built-in into >gtk+. Not only a bidi widget but also give the ability >to create a hebrew UI and so on... This is what we >really need for Linux hebrew support. If I may add my 2c to the discussion. If

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
US>> I dare you. Show me how you write a RTL-LTR text on a non US>> RTL-LTR widget; or just show me good RTL-LTR widget. Qtext did this on DOS, which is not an RTL-LTR widget. US>> OR, show me a good Text widget. There isn't even ONE decent US>> Text Widget, let alone LTR-RTL. Show me a Text wid

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
CS>> A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use CS>> abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty broken! It's not broken, it's undeveloped. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:30:02PM +0200, Ury Segal wrote: > So, we need a simple hebrew editor, that will enable someone to write > a letter to his bank. Would gnp do? As I've told, the GTK+ bidi hack already provides pretty reasonable hebrew support for simple text editing (not rich). -- Best

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 > comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. Do you know the difference between how much MS Office 2000 development costs was versus how much Israely people are willing to invent in Hebrew support f

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. The main missing piece is to add support into the graphics tool-kit (i.e. gtk, qt). If you want to translate the user interface you don't need anything else. Actually - if you wo

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote about "Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)": > I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ > coders & the gimp ones put where really interested to > make internalization and I was the only guy from > Israel at ha

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
I was talking about full hebrew support, built-in into gtk+. Not only a bidi widget but also give the ability to create a hebrew UI and so on... This is what we really need for Linux hebrew support. There more applications then a text editor, a common isrealy user will also want more programs with

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ coders & the gimp ones put where really interested to make internalization and I was the only guy from Israel at hand, so they volunteered me), if somebody will provide more help in this, so we can really go to the coding phase, this will be great.

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] > > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > > I want an editor. > > I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you > have a good text-widget. N

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > I want an editor. I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you have a good text-widget. I dare say it will not be hard writi

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Chen Shapira wrote: > > > > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > > I want an editor. > > editor as in emacs/vim? No. Editor as in MS WordPad. > > is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? All hebrew. Even hebrew puns. > > > Thanks, > Chen

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > I want an editor. editor as in emacs/vim? is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? Thanks, Chen. -- Chen ShapiraWeb Developer and Linux Activist "Preliminary operational tests were inconclusi

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > > > A better option I think is to add hebrew > > support, build-in, into GTK+. > > That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole > right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. It i

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > A better option I think is to add hebrew > support, build-in, into GTK+. That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. Are there any Gtk+ hackers here who w

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a > really better option to addd hebrew support to them, > why isrealy users should other editors, what have they > done bad? A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty br

Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
Hi list, Somtimes, if the design we used to create the wheel is old and and with more and more feautres has been added to it the wheel becomes unuseful, then we should reinvent it from the base. But this is not the case, a there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a really better option