Re: The Linux GUI crisis

2004-04-06 Thread Aaron
my 2cents, >From my side, I see that much of the gui hype is just that. Very few users design the gui's out there. The idea of a gui that would change according to the user is a great idea. (everytime a user says *##* when a gui gets you angry. Most gui's are based on someones cute or neat idea,

Re: The Linux GUI crisis

2004-04-06 Thread Gil Freund
Omer Zak wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Gil Freund wrote: [snip] CUPS (the original example given) is an foss project from a company that make a parallel commercial product. It has a licensing cash flow and therefor has money not related only to "support and service". The same is true of Mozilla, Open

Re: The Linux GUI crisis

2004-04-06 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Gil Freund wrote: > Omer Zak wrote: > > In http://daringfireball.net/2004/04/spray_on_usability , John Gruber > > explains why (in his opinion), Free Software is destined to always suck > > in terms of GUI quality. > > I don't know if he is right or not.But I'd like to wear my

Re: The Linux GUI crisis

2004-04-05 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:41:02AM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: > >1. How would people, who want to be GUI designers, get trained in the > >art of GUI design? > Read Eduard Tufte's books on design. It's not UI, but on how to present > information, and check out Orelly's "Annoyance" series. Or, since

Re: The Linux GUI crisis

2004-04-05 Thread Gil Freund
Omer Zak wrote: In http://daringfireball.net/2004/04/spray_on_usability , John Gruber explains why (in his opinion), Free Software is destined to always suck in terms of GUI quality. I don't know if he is right or not. But I'd like to wear my Optimist Hat and try to come up with reasons why he