Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Peter
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Hi Peter, On 2/18/07, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Basically, it is you who impressed the TCO of the current system on your father's firm. OK, I admit it's partly my fault. But it was not only my decision. It was about 10 years ago, my father c

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:54:37AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > By the way, 10 years ago there was no PHP, no MySQL as far as I know, > and no alternatives to Access. There was something called Magic, this > might have been the only alternative. Even today, I don't know any > application which

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Peter, On 2/18/07, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Basically, it is you who impressed the TCO of the current system on your father's firm. OK, I admit it's partly my fault. But it was not only my decision. It was about 10 years ago, my father consulted an expert and he recommended using M

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:49:10AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Are you sure? I heard different opinions here. Will the Access > database data get corrupted if the server is not Windows? Can Samba > handle record & table locking in Access? Or can it not? Unfortunately all I can find by STFW'i

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/18/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without SQL server you don't get record locking, etc. If you try to use Access to update a database on a SAMBA share, you will end up with corrupt data. Are you sure? I heard different opinions here. Will the Access database data ge

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Sunday 18 February 2007 01:57, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > On 2/17/07, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it a requirement that it be "Access", or should it be "a database > > server"? > > It has to be Access - it's not only a database, but a whole program > written in Access, with at

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/18/07, Arieh Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many companies do you know, which are not computer companies, who use Linux? Many. Mostly on servers. Just as your father's company can. I was refering to end users computers and not to servers. I wrote you another message (differen

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Arieh Skliarouk
Hello Uri, But if we do decide to convert, we will convert only the tables (there are at least 50 of them) and not the entire program. I see only-tables conversion as good first step. There is howto on access-mysql conversion: http://www.kitebird.com/articles/access-migrate.html How many com

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/17/07, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it a requirement that it be "Access", or should it be "a database server"? It has to be Access - it's not only a database, but a whole program written in Access, with at least 50 forms, at least 100 queries and lots of VB code. I wrote

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Sunday 18 February 2007 00:00, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:09:26PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > I am not sure I understood the OP question, and neither am I sure others > > did. If you intend to use the server, as others guessed, only as a file > > server fo

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:09:26PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > I am not sure I understood the OP question, and neither am I sure others > did. If you intend to use the server, as others guessed, only as a file > server for Access, then samba will probably be just as good. If they > intend to

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:45:38AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > Dear Linux people, > > > > First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by > > the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. > No problem. Me too :-) > > and a server for > > M

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Dear Linux people, > > First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by > the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. No problem. > and a server for > Microsoft Access. The Access program will be executed by a few users > simultaneously. Is it a

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Saturday 17 February 2007 10:20, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Dear Linux people, > > First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by > the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to > offend anybody. > > I want to ask you something about Linux servers. My

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Uri Even-Chen: > the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to > offend anybody. That's ok, old chap. Better to offend and ask forgiveness than to not offend and ask permission... [snip] > My father asked an expert from a company we work with, and the expert > rec