Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-03-01 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Dotan Cohen writes: >> It's not dialing anything, just DHCP. I insist on this way of >> connection for the last 5 years, and it works flawlessly. Dialer is >> only trouble for me. > > Really? How did you convince them? You just tell them you want direct DHCP. I have not used a dialer in the last

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-03-01 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Is pretty much an almost-default nowdays with Bezeqint (isn't @014 for DSL > connections only?) when you connect with Hot. > > If you don't have it, calling tech support and saying "I want MPLS/without > dialer" (you can say "my router has issues with the dialup server" in case > you  fall on a n

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-03-01 Thread shimi
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > It's not dialing anything, just DHCP. I insist on this way of connection > for > > the last 5 years, and it works flawlessly. Dialer is only trouble for me. > > > > Really? How did you convince them? > > You just plug the router into the mod

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-03-01 Thread Dotan Cohen
> It's not dialing anything, just DHCP. I insist on this way of connection for > the last 5 years, and it works flawlessly. Dialer is only trouble for me. > Really? How did you convince them? You just plug the router into the modem and it gets an address? No username (usually something like u...@

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-28 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: Probably using STUN. I don't understand how it works either but it does. Am also using Callweaver behind a router with no ports forwarded and it just works, as long as I use a STUN server. STUN is VoIP over TCP/IP tunneling. You open a TCP

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-28 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Yuval Hager wrote: It is working now, connected to my own router, as a client. it started working right after plugging in, without any port forwarding (not sure how - Probably using STUN. I don't understand how it works either but it does. Am also using Callweaver behind

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-28 Thread Yuval Hager
On Sunday 28 February 2010, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > On Feb 25, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Yuval Hager wrote: > > According to their support guy (who sound very knowledgable), since > > I have > > HOT infrastructure, no dialer, and a router, they simply connect > > their box > > to *my* router, as an add

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-28 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 25, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Yuval Hager wrote: According to their support guy (who sound very knowledgable), since I have HOT infrastructure, no dialer, and a router, they simply connect their box to *my* router, as an additional client. This means that no port blocking, nor QoS is poss

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-25 Thread Yuval Hager
I have a bezeqint landline install set up for tomorrow, and your post alarmed me, so I called them and asked if this was the case in my setup. On Thursday 18 February 2010, Alex Shnitman wrote: > One thing to note is that they put this adapter in front of your PC / > router (i.e. it connects to

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Since you bought the phone after 1 January 2009, the new consumer protection >  law should have been in effect. You may be able to sue them or get a new > phone. > > The first thing to do is to contact the Orange company Ombudsman (a consumer > advocate works for them). If you get nothing from th

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I don't know anyone who uses Orange as their landline ISP nor their VoIP > services, so comments good or bad would be appreciated. > After nine years as a happy Orange cellular subscriber, I bought an N95 last June. It was sent for repair 12 times, and each time it came back with the same issue.

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-20 Thread Valery Reznic
Thank to all of you for the info. I think for now I'll stay with Bezek Valery. --- On Sat, 2/20/10, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > From: geoffrey mendelson > Subject: Re: OT: Bezek via netvision > To: "Valery Reznic" > Cc: "linux-il." > Date: Saturday

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-20 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Valery Reznic wrote: Hi, list Recently Netvision representative contacted me and offered to use Netvision instead of Bezek as my "phone provider" Just to keep this in a related thread, Friday's Yediot in their "7 Days" section had a two page ad for Orange as

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-18 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:21 PM, Alex Shnitman wrote: And reliability probably does depend on the area, but also very much on luck, it appears. I had it working fine here for a year until disconnections started, and then 9 (!!) visits by HOT technicians weren't enough solve the problem. This

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-18 Thread Alex Shnitman
> > I'm using this service. If your infrastructure (HOT/ADSL) is reliable, it > > works pretty reliably as well. > > > > They give you the AudioCodes MP202 adapter, as someone has already > > mentioned. One thing to note is that they put this adapter in front of your > > PC / router (i.e. it co

RE: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-18 Thread Ron Varburg
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:21:05 -0800 > From: alext...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: OT: Bezek via netvision > To: valery_rez...@yahoo.com; linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > Hi, > > I'm using this service. If your infrastructure (HOT/A

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-18 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Alex Shnitman wrote: I'm using this service. If your infrastructure (HOT/ADSL) is reliable, it works pretty reliably as well. If I were offered this deal now I wouldn't go for it. I've had good luck so far using Spikko (www.spikko.com) for low volume calli

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-18 Thread Alex Shnitman
n -- and let me tell you that you don't realize how unreliable Internet infrastructure is here until you put your phone on it. If I were offered this deal now I wouldn't go for it. --Alex - Original Message From: Valery Reznic To: linux-il. Sent: Wed, February 17, 201

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 17 February 2010 17:39, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Valery Reznic wrote: > >> Hi, list >> >> Recently Netvision representative contacted me and offered to use >> Netvision instead of Bezek as my "phone provider" >> >> Do you have any experience with them ? > > > N

Re: OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-17 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Valery Reznic wrote: Hi, list Recently Netvision representative contacted me and offered to use Netvision instead of Bezek as my "phone provider" Do you have any experience with them ? No, but AFAIK they give you a "box" which connects to your aDSL line or ca

OT: Bezek via netvision

2010-02-17 Thread Valery Reznic
Hi, list Recently Netvision representative contacted me and offered to use Netvision instead of Bezek as my "phone provider" Do you have any experience with them ? Regards, Valery ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailma