[HAIFUX LECTURE] Maqaf Hataf Patakh - The new standard Hebrew keyboard layout by Amir E. Aharoni

2012-01-07 Thread Eli Billauer
On Monday, January 9th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear Amir E. Aharoni talk about Maqaf Hataf Patakh - The new standard Hebrew keyboard layout Abstract In the last two years a committee in the Standards Institution of Israel worked, on my initiative and with my active

Re: lyx Hebrew keyboard layout variant issue

2009-05-22 Thread Herouth Maoz
On 21/05/2009, at 19:57, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:28:03PM +0300, Herouth Maoz wrote: Hi everybody, I recently upgraded the Linux version on my work machine, and I noticed something odd about the Hebrew kxkb layout, which I use in the lyx variant. There was no "=" key

Re: lyx Hebrew keyboard layout variant issue

2009-05-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:28:03PM +0300, Herouth Maoz wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I recently upgraded the Linux version on my work machine, and I noticed > something odd about the Hebrew kxkb layout, which I use in the lyx > variant. There was no "=" key, and there were two "]" keys. The default

Re: lyx Hebrew keyboard layout variant issue

2009-05-21 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 21 May 2009 14:20:48 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > So, does anybody know where I can get a fully-defined Hebrew layout for > > kxkb, in the lyx variant? If so, a hint on where to install it will also > > be appreciated. And finally, how does one convince all the distros to > > include a full l

Re: lyx Hebrew keyboard layout variant issue

2009-05-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
> So, does anybody know where I can get a fully-defined Hebrew layout for > kxkb, in the lyx variant? If so, a hint on where to install it will also be > appreciated. And finally, how does one convince all the distros to include a > full layout? It's strange that both Ubuntu and Mandriva have the s

lyx Hebrew keyboard layout variant issue

2009-05-21 Thread Herouth Maoz
Hi everybody, I recently upgraded the Linux version on my work machine, and I noticed something odd about the Hebrew kxkb layout, which I use in the lyx variant. There was no "=" key, and there were two "]" keys. The default Hebrew layout had no such artifact. After comparing my KDE-based

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:11:07PM +0200, Yuval Hager wrote: > I find the lyx variant to be most intuitive. As I don't have time to look for > the documentation when I need to add diacritics, it makes much sense for פתח > to be on פ, for קמץ to be on ק, for חיריק to be on ח, and so on. If I don't

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yuval Hager
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/3/5 Yuval Hager : > > On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: > >> Hi Yonatan, > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > >> > What is "sta

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/3/5 Yuval Hager : > On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: >> Hi Yonatan, >> >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: >> > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? >> >> Ho

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the >> layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM >> and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard >> layouts: >> Default >> Basic >> Lyx >> Phonetic >> Biblical > > Hi Dotan, > Where do y

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
> After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the > Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that > capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language > shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Doe

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
ng this as a second standard. > Anyone else have opinions about this? > > - yba > > > On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote: > > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200 >> From: Dov Grobgeld >> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham >> Cc: Baruch Siach , linux-il. &

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Yuval Hager
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: > Hi Yonatan, > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? > > How about SI1452? > > http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebr

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:24:40 +0200 From: Dotan Cohen To: Baruch Siach Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham , linux-il. Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout How about SI1452? http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm Thanks, Baruch, but

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
athan Ben Avraham Cc: Baruch Siach , linux-il. Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that capital characters are hebrew) you

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
> How about SI1452? > > http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard layouts: Default Basic Lyx Ph

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-05 Thread Dov Grobgeld
ohen , linux-il. > > >> Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout >> >> Hi Yonatan, >> >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: >> >>> What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM. - yba On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200 From: Baruch Siach To: Jonathan Ben Avraham Cc: Dotan Cohen , linux-il. Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout Hi Yonatan, On Thu, Mar 05

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Baruch Siach
Hi Yonatan, On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? How about SI1452? http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm baruch > On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>

Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? - yba On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200 From: Dotan Cohen To: linux-il. Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout Where is the RLM (right to left ma

RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

2009-03-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like in another popular OS? Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have

Re: Solved: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread rlinuz
--=-Ug3bUmYdmXVr4pAhNZY5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I was able to solve this once and for all (I think). I've enhanced the il keyboard layer and now when the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, I'm still able to get CTRL+a instead of CTRL+shin. I'm still work

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread rlinuz
Doesn't work :-/ And I'm running Xorg. On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 23:11, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 09:30:15PM +0300, rlinuz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. > > CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. > > > > Fedora Core 2, KDE >

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 09:30:15PM +0300, rlinuz wrote: > Hi, > > When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. > CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. > > Fedora Core 2, KDE Try adding the following to your XkbOptions (or -option parameter of setxkbmap) srvrkeys:none Note tha

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread rlinuz
Thanks, I tried your xmodmap file and still it does not work. -S. On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 23:46, Boaz Rymland wrote: > Oh, setting up hebrew was, and still is, a pain. It seems like only > Tzafrir Cohen really knows how to do things right ;-) ... > > Anyhow, I've recently managed to set up hebrew

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread Haggai Eran
On Monday 16 August 2004 13:51, ik wrote: > > It is definitely a bug. Perhaps it shouldn't be fixed in mozilla, but > > instead it maybe need to be fixed in X, or in the distribution, but you > > cannot expect every user to tweak there own xmodmap. > > Well, I'm one of "those" who think that comput

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-16 Thread ik
Haggai Eran wrote: On Monday 16 August 2004 02:13, ik wrote: But it's not a bug... it's just keyboard reading... xuv gives you diffrent values from CTRL+A vs CTRL+Shin and so is in ALT+A,ALT+Shin etc... it's just telling program to ignore hebrew keyboard... But you will encounter this problem on ev

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread Haggai Eran
On Monday 16 August 2004 02:13, ik wrote: > But it's not a bug... it's just keyboard reading... xuv gives you diffrent > values from CTRL+A vs CTRL+Shin and so is in ALT+A,ALT+Shin etc... it's > just telling program to ignore hebrew keyboard... But you will encounter > this problem on every program

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread ik
Haggai Eran wrote: On Sunday 15 August 2004 22:59, ik wrote: I'm also running debian sid, some of the programs have this problems while others not. Konsole (i checked it out afther you wrote) is not having it, while Mozilla (every product of them) does have it, and so are many other programs.. not

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread Haggai Eran
On Sunday 15 August 2004 22:59, ik wrote: > I'm also running debian sid, some of the programs have this problems while > others not. Konsole (i checked it out afther you wrote) is not having it, > while Mozilla (every product of them) does have it, and so are many other > programs.. not all of the

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread Boaz Rymland
Oh, setting up hebrew was, and still is, a pain. It seems like only Tzafrir Cohen really knows how to do things right ;-) ... Anyhow, I've recently managed to set up hebrew keyboard on my KDE, while retaining the Alt, Meta, whatever... . I used this guide - http://www.penguin.org.il/faq/downlo

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread ik
it, and so are many other programs.. not all of them are GTK btw... I just tried in Konsole, and I was able to break (^C) and to stop (^Z) a program while using the hebrew keyboard layout. Tell me more, how do you switch languages? Do you use the kde program (kxkb or something) or did you s

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread amos
ik wrote: Three ways that i can think of: 1. configure xmodmap file :) Is there a ready-made file floating anywere? 2. Change the defenetion of kde to make the same operations (it won't work on non QT programs thou) 3. Change the headers of x-server and recompile it :) 4. (Just experimented this):

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread Haggai Eran
I'm running KDE on debian sid, and i don't have this problem. I just tried in Konsole, and I was able to break (^C) and to stop (^Z) a program while using the hebrew keyboard layout. Tell me more, how do you switch languages? Do you use the kde program (kxkb or something) or did

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread ik
rlinuz wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 21:53, ik wrote: rlinuz wrote: Hi, When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. Fedora Core 2, KDE Any idea? -S. I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTRL+A will CTRL + shin CTRL+Z will be ctrl+

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread rlinuz
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 21:53, ik wrote: > rlinuz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. > > CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. > > > > Fedora Core 2, KDE > > > > Any idea? > > > > -S. > > > > > I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTR

Re: CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread ik
rlinuz wrote: Hi, When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. Fedora Core 2, KDE Any idea? -S. I think it self explainning.. but it's hebrew... CTRL+A will CTRL + shin CTRL+Z will be ctrl+zyn etc.. Cheers, Ido -- "The only skills I have the

CTRL keys not functioning in X/KDE w/Hebrew keyboard layout

2004-08-15 Thread rlinuz
Hi, When the keyboard layer is set to Hebrew, the CTRL keys (i.e. CTRL+A...CTRL+Z) will not function. Fedora Core 2, KDE Any idea? -S. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message b

Re: Hebrew keyboard layout

1999-03-14 Thread Schlomo Schapiro
cent configuration on a 32 MB system, and it > seems that X and KDE together would not let me load anything heavy. > > I have read the Hebrew HOWTO, I have read some other documentation, but > I still have not fegured out a way to set an optional hebrew keyboard > layout in my XF86CONFIG

Re: Hebrew keyboard layout

1999-03-13 Thread Itamar S.-T.
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > How do I change the keyboard layout to a hebrew one in X? > At the moment I use KDE 1.1, which has kjkbd, that does just that. But as > nice a KDE is, it does require a little bit to much memory (this simple > kjkbd takes 3.7 MB). Gnome has an applet that is supposed to d

Hebrew keyboard layout

1999-03-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
keyboard layout in my XF86CONFIG Nor have I found some program to od it for me, except the I have tried asking around, but still got no answer. I'm using RH5.2, but I suppose this question is relevant for people with different configurations. Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]